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30N30W. I have a few questions for you.
Firstly, I'm no anagram wizard, but how did you re-arrange your name (Jayne Hrdlicka) to spell 30N30W????
On a more serious note, you're argument is chopping and changing all over the shop. (my first clue that you have no understanding about international aviation, hence my suspicion that you're in airline management)
Initially, you ask about the foreign LCCs flying into HKG, and do we want them to stop. No, they're using their side of the air services agreement, and we HKG operators use the HKG side of the agreement. It's a balance.
Then you start singing the joys of another LCC finding its home in HKG. Totally different track to your initial question. If a LCC wants to set up in HKG, then go for it. The primary requirement is that they COMPLY WITH HONG KONG LAW. Hong Kong law clearly defines the ownership and management/operations structure required to be considered a Hong Kong airline.
Pretty simple.
Dan Buster is correct about precedent, but let's take it even further beyond aviation. If we can circumvent the law on airline ownership, what other laws can we circumvent?? I'll build my house in contravention to the building code. I'll speed on the roads. etc etc. Where does it end??
Firstly, I'm no anagram wizard, but how did you re-arrange your name (Jayne Hrdlicka) to spell 30N30W????
On a more serious note, you're argument is chopping and changing all over the shop. (my first clue that you have no understanding about international aviation, hence my suspicion that you're in airline management)
Initially, you ask about the foreign LCCs flying into HKG, and do we want them to stop. No, they're using their side of the air services agreement, and we HKG operators use the HKG side of the agreement. It's a balance.
Then you start singing the joys of another LCC finding its home in HKG. Totally different track to your initial question. If a LCC wants to set up in HKG, then go for it. The primary requirement is that they COMPLY WITH HONG KONG LAW. Hong Kong law clearly defines the ownership and management/operations structure required to be considered a Hong Kong airline.
Pretty simple.
Dan Buster is correct about precedent, but let's take it even further beyond aviation. If we can circumvent the law on airline ownership, what other laws can we circumvent?? I'll build my house in contravention to the building code. I'll speed on the roads. etc etc. Where does it end??
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From: Asia
30N30W
If it doesn’t comply with the Hong Kong Basic Law Chapter V, Section 4 like every other airline that is registered or has been registered in Hong Kong since the handover in 1997, then no it isn’t OK.
By the way Hong Kong Express Airlines which uses the call sign “Hong Kong Shuttle” is majority owned by businesses that have their primary place of business here in Hong Kong and are headquartered here as well.
Hong Kong Basic Law
If they call it "Hong Kong Shuttle" instead of Jet* would that make you feel better?
By the way Hong Kong Express Airlines which uses the call sign “Hong Kong Shuttle” is majority owned by businesses that have their primary place of business here in Hong Kong and are headquartered here as well.
Hong Kong Basic Law
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From: Sunny Bay
Come back. All is forgiven.
I gathered my treasures and followed the road
With glamorous visions in mind
I left some hearts aching, who'd loved me so strong
I had new pleasures to find
The treasures were wasted
And pleasures I tasted were bitter to me in the end
And soulless I sought, I woke up and thought
I heard a sweet voice on my way
Saying, "All is forgiven, come home
All is forgiven, come home
The Father's anxiously waiting, and watching the road
All is forgiven, come home"
If you are someone who wandered away
Leaving more love than you found
Greener pastures glowing that caused you to stray
Along the road leading down
There is someone who's love is forever
He's the essence of mercy and grace
Sweetly a small voice is speaking within
Listen and you'll hear him say
"All is forgiven, come home
All is forgiven, come home
The Father's anxiously waiting, and watching the road
All is forgiven, come home"
Come home, come home
Ye who are weary, come home
The Father's anxiously waiting, and watching the road
All is forgiven, come home
All is forgiven, come home
All is forgiven, come home
I gathered my treasures and followed the road
With glamorous visions in mind
I left some hearts aching, who'd loved me so strong
I had new pleasures to find
The treasures were wasted
And pleasures I tasted were bitter to me in the end
And soulless I sought, I woke up and thought
I heard a sweet voice on my way
Saying, "All is forgiven, come home
All is forgiven, come home
The Father's anxiously waiting, and watching the road
All is forgiven, come home"
If you are someone who wandered away
Leaving more love than you found
Greener pastures glowing that caused you to stray
Along the road leading down
There is someone who's love is forever
He's the essence of mercy and grace
Sweetly a small voice is speaking within
Listen and you'll hear him say
"All is forgiven, come home
All is forgiven, come home
The Father's anxiously waiting, and watching the road
All is forgiven, come home"
Come home, come home
Ye who are weary, come home
The Father's anxiously waiting, and watching the road
All is forgiven, come home
All is forgiven, come home
All is forgiven, come home
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From: dowund
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From: Hong Kong
No Sympathy
Nice link cpahka.
As much as I'd love to see someone put a commercial/competition rocket up the backside of CX management, I have absolutely no love or respect for QF's Jet* product. As far as I'm concerned, J* should be dissolved tomorrow and re-integrated into QF. But, that won't happen with the current CEO who seems hell bent on turning QF into a clone of Ryanair.
The article also demonstrates the total lack of knowledge about the subject by the so called journalist.
Not once does it mention in the article about a new base in Japan, only the delay in Hong Kong. Well, Mr Matt O'Sullivan, how about you pick up an atlas, or go to google maps, and have a look where Hong Kong is.
As much as I'd love to see someone put a commercial/competition rocket up the backside of CX management, I have absolutely no love or respect for QF's Jet* product. As far as I'm concerned, J* should be dissolved tomorrow and re-integrated into QF. But, that won't happen with the current CEO who seems hell bent on turning QF into a clone of Ryanair.
The article also demonstrates the total lack of knowledge about the subject by the so called journalist.
Jetstar's offshoot in Japan has been forced to keep new planes on the ground because regulators have delayed a decision on whether they will allow the budget airline to set up a second base in the Asian nation.
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From: All over
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JetStar HK!
Virgin Atlantic axes flights between Sydney and Hong Kong | smh.com.au
Not jetstar Hk news, but....
Not jetstar Hk news, but....
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From: The Cesspit
Call me Nostradamus if you will but here's my prophecy for Thursday;
Qantas will temporarily suspend/halt/defer/shelve (insert appropriate catchphrase here)
it's application for a Hong Kong AOC due to
Unforeseeable financial circumstances/strategic review/uneven playing fields/global conditions/protectionist policies (insert another random grouping of words here)
What it won't mention is the impossibility of ever being granted a Hong Kong AOC due to not meeting eligibility criteria.
Qantas will temporarily suspend/halt/defer/shelve (insert appropriate catchphrase here)
it's application for a Hong Kong AOC due to
Unforeseeable financial circumstances/strategic review/uneven playing fields/global conditions/protectionist policies (insert another random grouping of words here)
What it won't mention is the impossibility of ever being granted a Hong Kong AOC due to not meeting eligibility criteria.
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From: 1313 Mockingbird Lane
Unforeseeable financial circumstances/strategic review/uneven playing fields/global conditions/protectionist policies
What was the point of moving to CLK???!!!
Park Island whingers would be feeling particulalrly smug following that decision. Lets hope you don't fly anywhere on your hols.
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From: Hong Kong
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From: All over
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From: Asia
HeliExpress
Jetstar is a Qantas Group Company. If Qantas isn't a major shareholder then it won't be Jetstar. I would also be very surprised if China Eastern and Shuntack are paying a cent of the $4.4m a month lease cost for 11 aircraft that are parked in France.
At the end of the day if the ownership of Jetstar HKG doesn't comply with the basic law then it has got a snow flakes chance in hell of getting up.
Jetstar is a Qantas Group Company. If Qantas isn't a major shareholder then it won't be Jetstar. I would also be very surprised if China Eastern and Shuntack are paying a cent of the $4.4m a month lease cost for 11 aircraft that are parked in France.
At the end of the day if the ownership of Jetstar HKG doesn't comply with the basic law then it has got a snow flakes chance in hell of getting up.
