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Old 17th Aug 2010, 13:08
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Of course I have criticised posts etc. And no IFB is not my real name, close though!!. However, as a member of the AOA I have not and will not bad mouth them on THIS forum as they are, believe it or not, trying to protect/improve our COS. Granted there are differences of opinion in the measures of their success, but to attack them either personally or collectively on a public forum is in my view making the company’s hand stronger and ours weaker.

If I wish to challenge the GC then I will do so via the PRIVATE AOA forum. You and many others seem intent on washing dirty linen in public. Your opinion is exactly that but do you honestly believe that by letting management know how little you think of the GC, the very people they are negotiating with on our behalf, helps our cause. You are entitled to your opinion, but please use a bit of common sense and diplomacy when ranting your grievances. At present yours and others public comments makes the AOA’s task far harder. I bet that if/when our negotiators cannot achieve the deal we wish for and deserve you and those others will see no blame in your damaging actions and once again put all the blame at the GC’s door. How ironic!

By all means criticise but do so in private where the objects of your rants have the ability to answer without giving the company the free intelligence they currently glean from this website.

You also have a good week.
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Old 17th Aug 2010, 19:01
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Why would anyone work a G Day? Given our rate of flying at the moment, and with seemingly lots of overtime to share around, taking G Day compensation is penny-wise and pound-foolish. A G Day pay day is very cheap compared to a 2.5X overtime hour.

Say no, let someone get overtime and then you can take the overtime when someone else says no. Working on a G Day ONLY helps the company, not our collective paypackets.

Please say no to G Day working.
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Old 18th Aug 2010, 16:33
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A G Day pay day is very cheap compared to a 2.5X overtime hour.
True dat.
Another thing that should be renegotiated by the AOA - this pathetic G Day comp is ridiculous.....as ridiculous as the that decides to work on their G day
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Old 19th Aug 2010, 00:13
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How about $0 for a G day then people might stop working them or you pay CX for working a G day, I'd like to see who continues to work them
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Old 19th Aug 2010, 00:42
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Name and Shame.
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Old 23rd Aug 2010, 14:22
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Anyone care to name and shame? anyone?
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Old 23rd Aug 2010, 17:41
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Name and Shame

As much as I believe that G days are OFF days and should NEVER, EVER be worked on, if you're gonna "name and shame", have the decency to sign your own name to your post.
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Old 23rd Aug 2010, 18:44
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can you help me out here as I am not so good with acronyms.... who or what is meant by your comment "They spend all there time pandering to TPTB". I just want to make sure I get the right person/organisation;-)

CC or not is an ongoing issue. If you join a collective organisation and you are not given guidance then you should be able to do what you wish. If that organisation, after a democratic vote, says no working G days then we have an issue we can talk about in public.

To the best of my knowledge we are not there yet. I think that vote is coming up very shortly so members can decide for themselves on the timing.
cheers
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Old 23rd Aug 2010, 22:16
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I love the way the forum talks like G day workers are a minority. Next time CC call, pick up, have a chat and see how many they need to ring. Not very many. I'd say about 80% of those available choose to work on a G day so 80% of crew, 2000+ pilots are happy to.

If you don't answer the phone and don't take the G day payout then 11 seconds later someone else will have.

Who are any of you to tell me I'm not allowed to work on a G day and pocket the money.
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Old 23rd Aug 2010, 23:51
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Jeeze Louise, if this is what the HKAOA are up against, may 'God' help us all...
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Old 24th Aug 2010, 02:56
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TPTB: The powers that be. That comment was only IMHO.
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Old 24th Aug 2010, 03:41
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the guy who was on RESERVE that just missed out on MORE than you got for your G day. You are so self centered and naive it's not funny.

We have no hope even if CC gets voted in. 1. Because of the likes of child minded albatoss & 2. because the company will simply walk away from negotiations
Jizz, you think there's like a total of 23 people who work on G days? I spent years not working on G days and then happened to ask CC how easy was it to find someone else when I wasn't prepared to G day work.

Very very easy.

So who's naive?

If anyone on here walked the walk as well as talked the talk then the AOA wouldn't still be endorsing working on G days.
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Old 24th Aug 2010, 04:14
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I have worked one G day in 4 years. It pushed my monthly pay from 78 hours to around 102.

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Old 24th Aug 2010, 04:20
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Stillborn bird, you are pathetic. It is self serving ciints like you that have wrecked this profession. The pox on you and all that follow you.
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Old 24th Aug 2010, 06:40
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Ricepower.............couldn't have put it better myself
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Old 24th Aug 2010, 06:57
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Lots of words and opinions and hot-air.

Has the AOA leadership directed the membership to contract compliance?

If not perhaps ask why not but otherwise spare us the hot-air about G days.
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Old 24th Aug 2010, 16:18
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Yep....it probably would given the guy on reserve 110......why do you think they called you instead of him?

Whatever you say. When the AOA tell us it's time for CC, then I will be the first to line up. Will you? Have you ever put your head in the line of fire?

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Old 24th Aug 2010, 16:38
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Have you ever put your head in the line of fire?
Flight Attendants did and look where it got them
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Old 24th Aug 2010, 23:42
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Flight Attendants did and look where it got them
Yes but they are NOT the despised and overpaid expat, they will get the "public" sympathy.
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Old 27th Aug 2010, 05:18
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Ok guys, honest show of hands, how many of you complaining about G day workers took freighter commands?
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