Gee Day Workers....
Joined: Mar 2006
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Of course I have criticised posts etc. And no IFB is not my real name, close though!!
. However, as a member of the AOA I have not and will not bad mouth them on THIS forum as they are, believe it or not, trying to protect/improve our COS. Granted there are differences of opinion in the measures of their success, but to attack them either personally or collectively on a public forum is in my view making the company’s hand stronger and ours weaker.
If I wish to challenge the GC then I will do so via the PRIVATE AOA forum. You and many others seem intent on washing dirty linen in public. Your opinion is exactly that but do you honestly believe that by letting management know how little you think of the GC, the very people they are negotiating with on our behalf, helps our cause. You are entitled to your opinion, but please use a bit of common sense and diplomacy when ranting your grievances. At present yours and others public comments makes the AOA’s task far harder. I bet that if/when our negotiators cannot achieve the deal we wish for and deserve you and those others will see no blame in your damaging actions and once again put all the blame at the GC’s door. How ironic!
By all means criticise but do so in private where the objects of your rants have the ability to answer without giving the company the free intelligence they currently glean from this website.
You also have a good week.
. However, as a member of the AOA I have not and will not bad mouth them on THIS forum as they are, believe it or not, trying to protect/improve our COS. Granted there are differences of opinion in the measures of their success, but to attack them either personally or collectively on a public forum is in my view making the company’s hand stronger and ours weaker.If I wish to challenge the GC then I will do so via the PRIVATE AOA forum. You and many others seem intent on washing dirty linen in public. Your opinion is exactly that but do you honestly believe that by letting management know how little you think of the GC, the very people they are negotiating with on our behalf, helps our cause. You are entitled to your opinion, but please use a bit of common sense and diplomacy when ranting your grievances. At present yours and others public comments makes the AOA’s task far harder. I bet that if/when our negotiators cannot achieve the deal we wish for and deserve you and those others will see no blame in your damaging actions and once again put all the blame at the GC’s door. How ironic!
By all means criticise but do so in private where the objects of your rants have the ability to answer without giving the company the free intelligence they currently glean from this website.
You also have a good week.
Joined: Feb 2008
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From: Hong Kong
Why would anyone work a G Day? Given our rate of flying at the moment, and with seemingly lots of overtime to share around, taking G Day compensation is penny-wise and pound-foolish. A G Day pay day is very cheap compared to a 2.5X overtime hour.
Say no, let someone get overtime and then you can take the overtime when someone else says no. Working on a G Day ONLY helps the company, not our collective paypackets.
Please say no to G Day working.
Say no, let someone get overtime and then you can take the overtime when someone else says no. Working on a G Day ONLY helps the company, not our collective paypackets.
Please say no to G Day working.
Joined: Oct 2005
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From: heads down trying to figure out Chinese RVSM
A G Day pay day is very cheap compared to a 2.5X overtime hour.
Another thing that should be renegotiated by the AOA - this pathetic G Day comp is ridiculous.....as ridiculous as the
that decides to work on their G day 
Joined: Oct 2006
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can you help me out here as I am not so good with acronyms.... who or what is meant by your comment "They spend all there time pandering to TPTB". I just want to make sure I get the right person/organisation;-)
CC or not is an ongoing issue. If you join a collective organisation and you are not given guidance then you should be able to do what you wish. If that organisation, after a democratic vote, says no working G days then we have an issue we can talk about in public.
To the best of my knowledge we are not there yet. I think that vote is coming up very shortly so members can decide for themselves on the timing.
cheers
NC
can you help me out here as I am not so good with acronyms.... who or what is meant by your comment "They spend all there time pandering to TPTB". I just want to make sure I get the right person/organisation;-)
CC or not is an ongoing issue. If you join a collective organisation and you are not given guidance then you should be able to do what you wish. If that organisation, after a democratic vote, says no working G days then we have an issue we can talk about in public.
To the best of my knowledge we are not there yet. I think that vote is coming up very shortly so members can decide for themselves on the timing.
cheers
NC
Joined: May 2003
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From: 'round here
I love the way the forum talks like G day workers are a minority. Next time CC call, pick up, have a chat and see how many they need to ring. Not very many. I'd say about 80% of those available choose to work on a G day so 80% of crew, 2000+ pilots are happy to.
If you don't answer the phone and don't take the G day payout then 11 seconds later someone else will have.
Who are any of you to tell me I'm not allowed to work on a G day and pocket the money.
If you don't answer the phone and don't take the G day payout then 11 seconds later someone else will have.
Who are any of you to tell me I'm not allowed to work on a G day and pocket the money.
Joined: May 2003
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From: 'round here
the guy who was on RESERVE that just missed out on MORE than you got for your G day. You are so self centered and naive it's not funny.
We have no hope even if CC gets voted in. 1. Because of the likes of child minded albatoss & 2. because the company will simply walk away from negotiations
We have no hope even if CC gets voted in. 1. Because of the likes of child minded albatoss & 2. because the company will simply walk away from negotiations
I spent years not working on G days and then happened to ask CC how easy was it to find someone else when I wasn't prepared to G day work.Very very easy.
So who's naive?
If anyone on here walked the walk as well as talked the talk then the AOA wouldn't still be endorsing working on G days.
Joined: Oct 2005
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From: U.S.
Yep....it probably would given the guy on reserve 110......why do you think they called you instead of him?
Whatever you say. When the AOA tell us it's time for CC, then I will be the first to line up. Will you? Have you ever put your head in the line of fire?
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