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Old 19th Dec 2008, 23:10
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Come on some common sense here, for over twenty years that I know of it has been near impossible to get on at Christmas and Chinese New Year. If you really want to go at that time of year you have to pay to go as a client, not a staff member ...simple...it has been like this for many years and will hopefully be so in the future.
I don't believe looking at the bookings at this time of year will give you a true indication of what is really going on, it is what is on the books for after the Easter period that will probably tell the story.
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Old 20th Dec 2008, 12:05
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stillalbatross,

Even in boom times, travel desk does not show much for 4-5 months down the line.

As for Flight International, the adverts in the back only account for a small percentage of the job adverts they have. If you look on their website or get the e-mail lists, you will see there are plenty of jobs still out there including ones on big shiny jets.
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Old 20th Dec 2008, 22:41
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If I had a dollar for every time the company complained about forward bookings only to find out later that loads were good I'd not need the 13th month.

CX are spinning this as hard as their litttle legs will go.
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Old 21st Dec 2008, 01:15
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Really Geh,

I just had a chat with Parc about a job during the Leave without pay period. Those (obviously) lying sods say that the number of contract jobs is down about 45% from this time a year ago, they would say that wouldn't they?

ACMS, a how-far-out-of-touch-with-it's-lower-level-members-could-the-AOA-possibly-be question. How many years to command assessment from DOJ will a senior F/O be doing these days?
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Old 22nd Dec 2008, 01:10
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Still.............didn't think you were allowed to work whilst on LWOP?

And please re-write your last paragraph using English, I don't speak gobbledeegook.

Cheers
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Old 3rd Jan 2009, 04:23
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90+ % of flights to SYD,CDG,LHR,PER and MEL are red over the next week, could'nt be jacked looking at any more.
Any company minded sycophantic spin doctors care to comment ?
( most kids have been on hols for over 2 weeks now )
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Old 3rd Jan 2009, 07:09
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Cool

EEEErrrrmm, doesn't that mean that the little b*stards will be going back to their Borstals over the next week.....
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Old 4th Jan 2009, 11:04
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YVR also full. i DT out of YVR. got downgraded to Y....
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Old 5th Jan 2009, 12:37
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Yes Kits, hopefully
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Old 16th Jan 2009, 11:50
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Forget staff travel.I just booked HKG-MNL-HKG with 5J.It is FREE!!! plus taxes(total about HK$360 return).Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! CX staff travel can go f**k itself..............
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Old 17th Jan 2009, 04:57
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such sparkling wit and repartee....................

If we are hurting so much

How come I am in Overtime in January ??
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Old 19th Jan 2009, 05:32
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I would like to leave HK for a week or so in the beginning of Feb.
Every flight I have checked is red, so to save me time and frustration maybe someone can tell me where I can go that's not red
( Be nice !! )
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Old 19th Jan 2009, 23:43
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Wuhan.
Changsha.
Chonquing.
Dalain.
Shenyang.


Enjoy!
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Old 20th Jan 2009, 01:42
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Chennai, Mumbai, Bangalore, Delhi, Shanghai. There are some nice beach resorts just south of Madras (Chennai) You might not have time to get an Indian visa though...
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Old 20th Jan 2009, 08:42
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Yep, well I guess I asked for that did'nt I
Maybe I should have said somewhere nice....and unpolluted
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Old 20th Jan 2009, 18:04
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This will sort the loads out......

BBC NEWS | World | Asia-Pacific | Fresh warning on China bird flu
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Old 22nd Jan 2009, 12:08
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Tried buying a full fare to SIN recently, the price was $9.5K HKD Hardly a price slash now is it?
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Old 25th Jan 2009, 22:47
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CX propaganda

Cathay management are the worlds masters at disguising everything from load factors to profits.What you see is NOT what you you get!
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Old 26th Jan 2009, 00:54
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Note that many flight's are RED on the total numbers, but that the front end/biz does seem to be getting lighter. Can't remember where I heard this fact - but allegedly - in normal times if CX doesn't fill a biz seat on a sector it needs to fill 7 econ seats to make the same margin. But as also quoted earlier - i'm not a CX account manager and therefore don't have a clue how the system works.

Of course for those of you still living in your own little worlds - look around you. Markets in a flap, major corporations and banks (even whole countries)going down the toilet, stock brokers screwing people out of billions of dollars and now being found out - etc. Lovely quote from Warren Buffet in 2001 (who knows a thing or two):

You only find out who is swimming naked when the tide goes out.

So I would hazard a guess that an international airline based in HKG, a financial and logistics hub, and being only 1hr from the worlds LV and Nike production centre - we might be in a bit of a pickle due to people tightening there belts during these times.....

Regards,

N1 Vibes
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Old 26th Jan 2009, 03:06
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Always brainwashed by company propaganda eh N1! Things are such in a pickle that they had to increase frequency to Shanghai, Jakarta and Paris.
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