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Old 14th October 2008 | 22:19
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As a 49er I'd like a copy of the list.
You became one because you stood up to the company and for that, we thank you. As you can see, most of us who are here now do not have the b@lls to do so. People are too afraid they'll end up like you. So we'll just be happy to take our next rounds of COS abuses, contract violation and pay-cuts.

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Old 14th October 2008 | 23:16
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Old 14th October 2008 | 23:19
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Has the mighty HKAOA taken this list to their lawyers and started class action proceedings on behalf of all the still employed but financially punished CATB/C/D'ed members?
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Old 14th October 2008 | 23:33
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Can you remember the last time the AOA stood up to the company???

neither can I.
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Old 14th October 2008 | 23:49
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The AOA really should be dis-banded and a new "negotiating" body be introduced or take over the representation for the 2000+ pilots in Cathay Pacific.

I prefer to be a part of the more strong willed CPU. The AOA is more of an extension of management, really.
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Old 15th October 2008 | 01:48
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CC, yes please go and pay your subs to CPU, please please go, you will be so much better off and they, the CPU, will also be so much better off with you in their ranks. Think of the infinite wisdom you can provide them on problem solving with Cathay!!
I think it a grand idea, you can also provide assistance during those lengthy negotiations that CPU have with the company on important stuff like your CoS and rostering etc. Great initiative bud, why didnt we all think of it?!!
AoA bashing....boring and unoriginal, get over it and yes, please join the CPU!!
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Old 15th October 2008 | 03:27
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CC -

Better yet make an appointment with NR and discuss your agression and your issues as you clearly cannot rely on the AOA to do it for you. Thought not - now off you go then bye,bye.........

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Old 15th October 2008 | 05:02
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Fenwicksgirl,

Are you union believer?? or do you like wearing the AoA pin for show, like most of the members that abandon the 49ers! Don't knock the CPU, at least it's the only organization willing to do something about the injustice.
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Old 15th October 2008 | 05:05
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I am convinced that you are a founding member of the CPU and that all sane CX pilots should ignore your incoherent rants - as most did during your time as master and commander of the AOA!
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Old 15th October 2008 | 08:10
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I am convinced that you are a founding member of the CPU
You're making it sound like that's something bad?!? But really mate, I'm not worthy of such praise.

So are you happy with the direction the AOA has been sailing these past few years?

DEFO? DEC? C Scale??

All good then??
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Old 15th October 2008 | 09:24
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With apologies to Monty Python

CONTROLLEDCHAOS: They've bled us white, the AOA bastards. They've taken everything we had, and not just from us, from our fathers, and from our fathers' fathers.

LORETTA (aka STAN): And from our fathers' fathers' fathers.

CONTROLLEDCHAOS: Yeah.

LORETTA: And from our fathers' fathers' fathers' fathers.

CONTROLLEDCHAOS: Yeah. All right, Stan. Don't labour the point. And what have the AOA ever given us in return?!

XERXES: The aquaduct?

CONTROLLEDCHAOS: What?

XERXES: The aquaduct

CONTROLLEDCHAOS: Oh. Yeah, yeah. They did give us that. Uh, that's true. Yeah.

COMMANDO #3: And the sanitation.

LORETTA: Oh, yeah, the sanitation, CONTROLLEDCHAOS. Remember what the city used to be like?

CONTROLLEDCHAOS: Yeah. All right. I'll grant you the aqueduct and the sanitation are two things that the AOA have done.

MATTHIAS: And the roads.

CONTROLLEDCHAOS: Well, yeah. Obviously the roads. I mean, the roads go without saying, don't they? But apart from the sanitation, the aqueduct, and the roads--

COMMANDO: Irrigation.

XERXES: Medicine.

COMMANDOS: Huh? Heh? Huh...

COMMANDO #2: Education.

COMMANDOS: Ohh...

CONTROLLEDCHAOS: Yeah, yeah. All right. Fair enough.

COMMANDO #1: And the wine.

COMMANDOS: Oh, yes. Yeah...

FRANCIS: Yeah. Yeah, that's something we'd really miss, Reg, if the AOA left. Huh.

COMMANDO: Public baths.

LORETTA: And it's safe to walk in the streets at night now, CONTROLLEDCHAOS.

FRANCIS: Yeah, they certainly know how to keep order. Let's face it. They're the only ones who could in a place like this.

COMMANDOS: Hehh, heh. Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh.

CONTROLLEDCHAOS: All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the AOA ever done for us?

XERXES: Brought peace.

CONTROLLEDCHAOS: Oh. Peace? Shut up!

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Old 15th October 2008 | 09:58
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Must be dry british humour? (notice british purposely spelled with lower-case b).

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Old 15th October 2008 | 11:51
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It seems they have gotcha!
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Old 15th October 2008 | 19:10
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It seems they have gotcha!


Cathay management abusing Cathay employees, that's what it is...wake up and smell the coffee!
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Old 15th October 2008 | 19:38
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Controlled chaos,
I didn't know the AOA introduced B scales, C scales, fired the 49ers, got rid of the FACA, introduced DECs and DEFOs; thanks for pointing that out mate. I always thought it was the company that did all that, silly me!
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Old 15th October 2008 | 19:42
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Controlled chaos,
I didn't know the AOA introduced B scales, C scales, fired the 49ers, got rid of the FACA, introduced DECs and DEFOs; thanks for pointing that out mate. I always thought it was the company that did all that, silly me!
And you paid the AOA to sit and watch. What else do you expect from your negotiating body other than rolling over and play dead?

Not sick of hearing "yep, looks like they got us this time again boys"...?
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Old 15th October 2008 | 19:44
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So how are your individual negotiations with the company going? I guess you must be on A scales +10%, 30%PF contribution, 42 credit hour monthly limit!
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Old 16th October 2008 | 03:59
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So how are your individual negotiations with the company going? I guess you must be on A scales +10%, 30%PF contribution, 42 credit hour monthly limit!
Not any worse than your collective negotiation with the AOA.
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Old 16th October 2008 | 04:46
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Here's a hypothetical.....By the way, it's not a suggestion, so don't bother telling me how stupid i am...just an interesting thought that floated through my head. Like my idea to join this awesome sounding HK based international airline a couple of years back..... (Look where that got me!)

Cx Market cap is around $44,000mill HK (at current depressed stock prices)
2200+ pilots

How much of a company does a particular block of people need to own before they can start dictating terms, like voting for the board etc?

Now there's a way to make the bastards listen!!
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Old 16th October 2008 | 04:54
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CC -

I for one am tired of your meaningless drivel, no doubt written whilst drunk....

If life is so hard and you are so badly done by - vote with your feet and bugger off then.

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