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"Point niner"; american R/T at its best! I suppose if you're from over there it could make sense...always thought it was sloppy R/T (sorry if I offend someone, not my intention).
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uhh, the controller assumed that you know that most ground control frequencies are 121.XX, so he left the 121 out. I thought that was common knowledge, I guess not.
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What would George say ?
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So that begs the question ...are you on downwind(s) then Base(s) and then finally on final(s) or is final really too (to) final for you brits ? Why just have more than one final if you only have one downwind and one base leg etc.
The mere fact that page 10(9) ......says to call "fully" ready.., does not make it any less ridiculous just plain ready would be fine. Every airport in the world does'nt want air crew calling up and wasting ATC time etc. etc. so using a redundant phrase is not going to make the average crew take it more seriously.
It is the same with calling your aircraft type. Who gives a toss if you are a 737 800 or an A320. Last time I checked you got treated exactly the same at LHR.
Although the colonies do have their quirks, I speak yankee as a first language and I was lost in JFK one night.
Guess it is all about getting the napkin brief on the local knowledge! !!
As George Carlin would have said (RIP George) every final destination is final.
(that is to say that final and destination are one and the same)
Peace out.......
So that begs the question ...are you on downwind(s) then Base(s) and then finally on final(s) or is final really too (to) final for you brits ? Why just have more than one final if you only have one downwind and one base leg etc.
The mere fact that page 10(9) ......says to call "fully" ready.., does not make it any less ridiculous just plain ready would be fine. Every airport in the world does'nt want air crew calling up and wasting ATC time etc. etc. so using a redundant phrase is not going to make the average crew take it more seriously.
It is the same with calling your aircraft type. Who gives a toss if you are a 737 800 or an A320. Last time I checked you got treated exactly the same at LHR.
Although the colonies do have their quirks, I speak yankee as a first language and I was lost in JFK one night.
Guess it is all about getting the napkin brief on the local knowledge! !!
As George Carlin would have said (RIP George) every final destination is final.
(that is to say that final and destination are one and the same)
Peace out.......
Last edited by Five Green; 16th Sep 2008 at 12:38.
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A while since I have done circuits but as fate would have it I borrowed a bug smasher a few weeks back in Australia to do a rating. Downwind, base, finals seems the norm.
Calling ready does have some logic given that silence can see you muscled out of a pushback.
As to aircraft type, my experience is that this is useful information coming out of the race at Lambourne at the crack of dawn. Looking out the left hand window it is nice to know that what you are told is what is actually flying alongside you.
Sorry, I don't speak Yankee or Confederate for that matter...maybe that's why you got lost in JFK. Hope you found the gate eventually.
Lost me on the napkin brief. I wear boxers, less chaffing.
Thanks for the explanation (in brackets) of the George Calin expression. Certainly was a deep thinker...circa this...
People who go to Las Vegas, you've got to question their f.....g intellect to start with. Travelling hundreds and thousands of miles to essentially give your money to a large corporation is kind of f.....g moronic. That's what I'm always getting here is these kind of f......g people with very limited intellects.
An audience member shouted back that Carlin should "stop degrading us", at which point Carlin responded "Thank you very much, whatever that was. I hope it was positive; if not, well blow me." He was immediately fired by MGM Grand and soon after announced he would enter rehab for drug and alcohol addiction.
A while since I have done circuits but as fate would have it I borrowed a bug smasher a few weeks back in Australia to do a rating. Downwind, base, finals seems the norm.
Calling ready does have some logic given that silence can see you muscled out of a pushback.
As to aircraft type, my experience is that this is useful information coming out of the race at Lambourne at the crack of dawn. Looking out the left hand window it is nice to know that what you are told is what is actually flying alongside you.
Sorry, I don't speak Yankee or Confederate for that matter...maybe that's why you got lost in JFK. Hope you found the gate eventually.
Lost me on the napkin brief. I wear boxers, less chaffing.
Thanks for the explanation (in brackets) of the George Calin expression. Certainly was a deep thinker...circa this...
People who go to Las Vegas, you've got to question their f.....g intellect to start with. Travelling hundreds and thousands of miles to essentially give your money to a large corporation is kind of f.....g moronic. That's what I'm always getting here is these kind of f......g people with very limited intellects.
An audience member shouted back that Carlin should "stop degrading us", at which point Carlin responded "Thank you very much, whatever that was. I hope it was positive; if not, well blow me." He was immediately fired by MGM Grand and soon after announced he would enter rehab for drug and alcohol addiction.
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It is the same with calling your aircraft type. Who gives a toss if you are a 737 800 or an A320. Last time I checked you got treated exactly the same at LHR.
