X Oasis crew applying to AOA
ACMS Look back at your rantings and ask yourself if you're really intending to unite anyone. You're letting your jealousy of the 'A' scale group cloud your judgement. Get over it and let someone else talk - you've made your point - over and over again.
If someone is extended in this Company to stop us having to wet lease aircraft or even ground them, then too damned right he keeps his DOJ for Staff travel.
Bit of advice - never miss an opportunity to shut up.
If someone is extended in this Company to stop us having to wet lease aircraft or even ground them, then too damned right he keeps his DOJ for Staff travel.
Bit of advice - never miss an opportunity to shut up.
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If someone is extended in this Company to stop us having to wet lease aircraft or even ground them, then too damned right he keeps his DOJ for Staff travel.
That must be a windup
You guys must be management? How could you say that???????????
Incredible you could think that way.
IT'S JUST ANOTHER WAY TO SCREW THE JUNIOR GUYS>
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY it shows how quite a few of the senior Pilot's think.
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BusyB: so what's DELAYING their application then? are they waiting to see if they can claim their subs on their Tax!!!
Bring it on..............they can APPLY but we will object.
I hope they know that.
Bring it on..............they can APPLY but we will object.
I hope they know that.
ACMS - Yes I'm quite serious. What we should all do is to just leave you to conduct this thread all on your own. You know, answer your own replies and accuse yourself of going around in circles. Oh wait!
You're already doing that!!??
You're already doing that!!??
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ACMS ; you just don't get it, do you?
they can APPLY but we will object.
And this next sentence of your proves you really don't get it:
Explain in plain English for us all to see HOW these guys joining doesn't do damage to our negotiating position.?
So stop this ranting and start working for the future.
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Oh god here we go again.....................
Listen very carefully I am only going to say this once:-
you retirees and Oasis guys CAN come back and fly as long as:
1/ you accept the SAME pay and conditions as B scale
2/ you join at the BOTTOM of the Seniority list and ONLY accept legitimate promotions if we can't/wont accept them
3/ Bypass pay is then actually PAID correctly to ALL effected officers as per our COS.
4/ YOU DO IT THROUGH THE HKAOA
Simple really..........then you'd all be WELCOME back and we could all be ONE HAPPY FAMILY MOVING FORWARD.
Can't you see that you are being used by the Company to further their agenda. Which is further erode the T & C's of all current Pilot's ( and all other staff as well )
You might think you are doing the company a favour by helping them out in a shortage but you're only SCREWING US and playing into their hands.
Listen very carefully I am only going to say this once:-
you retirees and Oasis guys CAN come back and fly as long as:
1/ you accept the SAME pay and conditions as B scale
2/ you join at the BOTTOM of the Seniority list and ONLY accept legitimate promotions if we can't/wont accept them
3/ Bypass pay is then actually PAID correctly to ALL effected officers as per our COS.
4/ YOU DO IT THROUGH THE HKAOA
Simple really..........then you'd all be WELCOME back and we could all be ONE HAPPY FAMILY MOVING FORWARD.
Can't you see that you are being used by the Company to further their agenda. Which is further erode the T & C's of all current Pilot's ( and all other staff as well )
You might think you are doing the company a favour by helping them out in a shortage but you're only SCREWING US and playing into their hands.
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Great
Let's allow these guys to come back, join the union and vote thru 65...
That will only screw FO's and SO's alike, not to mention what the direct entry FO's are doing. Ohhh and a basing - Forget it!!!!
And no....I have ZERO desire to work till 65. However with lost income from command regression - I may just have to.
It gets better and bet....
Let's allow these guys to come back, join the union and vote thru 65...
That will only screw FO's and SO's alike, not to mention what the direct entry FO's are doing. Ohhh and a basing - Forget it!!!!
And no....I have ZERO desire to work till 65. However with lost income from command regression - I may just have to.
It gets better and bet....
iLUV - I bet he sais it more than once!
ACMS - I agree that when you're 55 you should do all the things you suggest. After all, when you joined the retirement age was 55 and you wouldn't want to screw your younger colleagues now would you. Long way away? Time moves fast and 55 is the old 45 they tell me. Try to relax. Your points are well made (or certainly should be by now - just look back at the thread - it's unique in the history of the Prune IMHO!)
ACMS - I agree that when you're 55 you should do all the things you suggest. After all, when you joined the retirement age was 55 and you wouldn't want to screw your younger colleagues now would you. Long way away? Time moves fast and 55 is the old 45 they tell me. Try to relax. Your points are well made (or certainly should be by now - just look back at the thread - it's unique in the history of the Prune IMHO!)
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A Scale did not object to B Scale
Please, I do wish people would speak the truth.
The A Scale community offered not to accept any pay rises for a number of years if the Company did not introduce B Scale.
The A Scale community offered not to accept any pay rises for a number of years if the Company did not introduce B Scale.
