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Jet Blue Jumpseat (Passenger seat)
I heard that many Jet Blue Captains will allow a CX pilot a free seat in the cabin (not the cabin crew jumpseat). Go to the gate (you must be in uniform) and ask the gate agent who will then direct you to the Captain. It is not against any FAA regulation for the Captain to allow you to board the aircraft for free. However, as we are not on any approved jumpseat list, nor CASS, getting on the plane is far from a definite.
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Guys
I am a jetblue pilot. I am going to make some phone call and talk to few people in our company to see if we can offer you guys some sort of JS like Cabin only or even maybe you pay a small fee like tax or $50.00 fee. Please let me know if you guys would like me to do that. Also does CX need to know about this, if so please let me the person I should contact at CX so that I can advise he/she about what I am doing. Wish me like and please give me some idea about what would work for you guys.
Fly safe
I am a jetblue pilot. I am going to make some phone call and talk to few people in our company to see if we can offer you guys some sort of JS like Cabin only or even maybe you pay a small fee like tax or $50.00 fee. Please let me know if you guys would like me to do that. Also does CX need to know about this, if so please let me the person I should contact at CX so that I can advise he/she about what I am doing. Wish me like and please give me some idea about what would work for you guys.
Fly safe
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Hmm.....
Prior to 9/11, I used to jumpseat on UA constantly from LAX and SFO to HKG and back. All I paid was the departure tax ex HKG (which was 'peanuts'). UA was kind enough to offer me F or J class, even provide me with a F or J class meal. At the end of the flight, as I would go up to thank the guys up front for their kindness, I'd be thanked by the crew for flying with them ! Those were the days....
Domestic U.S. was just as good - I used HP (America West) and they too were just as professional as well as accommodating. Prior to 9/11, we actually were on HP's jumpseat list !! I saw their list and we were there amongst EVA, SQ, NCA, JAL, to name a few. WN also allowed us to jumpseat albeit we weren't on their list.
Apple Tree Yard mentioned our previous DFO, a regular 'Mr. Personality' refusing to reciprocate the jumpseat privilege. True....but even so, we still were on HP's and JetBlue's list. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe there was a B744 Capt. who was living in the Caribbean, commuting to our (then) pax JFK base who was on the AOA Commitee. It was because of him that we were fortunate enough to be placed on a couple of U.S. airlines jumpseat lists.
Having come from a previous US carrier like Teedub, I agree that if you have been exposed to such privileges, you suffer from JWS.
The economic times have changed, this is a new benchmark we are dealing with, the "good ol' days" are just that.
Prior to 9/11, I used to jumpseat on UA constantly from LAX and SFO to HKG and back. All I paid was the departure tax ex HKG (which was 'peanuts'). UA was kind enough to offer me F or J class, even provide me with a F or J class meal. At the end of the flight, as I would go up to thank the guys up front for their kindness, I'd be thanked by the crew for flying with them ! Those were the days....
Domestic U.S. was just as good - I used HP (America West) and they too were just as professional as well as accommodating. Prior to 9/11, we actually were on HP's jumpseat list !! I saw their list and we were there amongst EVA, SQ, NCA, JAL, to name a few. WN also allowed us to jumpseat albeit we weren't on their list.
Apple Tree Yard mentioned our previous DFO, a regular 'Mr. Personality' refusing to reciprocate the jumpseat privilege. True....but even so, we still were on HP's and JetBlue's list. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe there was a B744 Capt. who was living in the Caribbean, commuting to our (then) pax JFK base who was on the AOA Commitee. It was because of him that we were fortunate enough to be placed on a couple of U.S. airlines jumpseat lists.
Having come from a previous US carrier like Teedub, I agree that if you have been exposed to such privileges, you suffer from JWS.
The economic times have changed, this is a new benchmark we are dealing with, the "good ol' days" are just that.
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I've asked for upgrades at Cathay and never got in trouble. Haven't got any but thats besides the point.
Also the new policy is that if economy is full they will upgrade staff over full fare passengers. Sounds kind hearted of Cathay but it's to encourage full fare pax to pay for an upgrade as so many were coming to expect it, especially the frequent flying card holders.
Just for info every time I have traveled out of Australia on ID with QANTAS( only twice ) I have been upgraded on board when I mentioned to the crew I was Cathay staff. How's that for looking after your employees.
Also the new policy is that if economy is full they will upgrade staff over full fare passengers. Sounds kind hearted of Cathay but it's to encourage full fare pax to pay for an upgrade as so many were coming to expect it, especially the frequent flying card holders.
Just for info every time I have traveled out of Australia on ID with QANTAS( only twice ) I have been upgraded on board when I mentioned to the crew I was Cathay staff. How's that for looking after your employees.
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Good luck, flynhigh, and thank you.
My only question is, if there is an open seat, especially on the freighter, why NOT give it to at least a CX pilot, if not another pilot? The seat is traveling independent of whether or not a person is occupying it.
My only question is, if there is an open seat, especially on the freighter, why NOT give it to at least a CX pilot, if not another pilot? The seat is traveling independent of whether or not a person is occupying it.
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CX says you must be on the General Declaration to travel on the freighter, but that is their version of it. 
My question is, why can I travel on Fed Ex and not be on the GD. BTW, thanks Fed Ex guys.
I like many would love to give JS to other pilots but CX disagrees.
My question is, why can I travel on Fed Ex and not be on the GD. BTW, thanks Fed Ex guys.
I like many would love to give JS to other pilots but CX disagrees.
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All,
CX would not be allowed to carry jumpseaters on the freighter on international flights to and from the US. FEDEX and UPS are not allowed to do it right now either. POLAR and Atlas can, if you are in CASS, which CX pilots do not have access to. You must understand that jumpseating in the US is governed less by company policy (which before 9-11 it was) and more by the TSA and FAA. CX could offer cabin jumpseats, but in my experience, few if any foreign airlines offer that. some offer the ability to sit in FA jumpseats if the flight is full but you still have to have a pass like an ID 90 and use it.
CX would not be allowed to carry jumpseaters on the freighter on international flights to and from the US. FEDEX and UPS are not allowed to do it right now either. POLAR and Atlas can, if you are in CASS, which CX pilots do not have access to. You must understand that jumpseating in the US is governed less by company policy (which before 9-11 it was) and more by the TSA and FAA. CX could offer cabin jumpseats, but in my experience, few if any foreign airlines offer that. some offer the ability to sit in FA jumpseats if the flight is full but you still have to have a pass like an ID 90 and use it.
Jumpseating on a HKG registered freighter is made particularly hard because HKG freighters are certified for cargo only. This means that only people directly connected with the operation are allowed to travel on board.
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Directly related
So when some girl in ANC needs a new uniform or the ORD cargo manager travels with us to HKG, they are directly related to the operations. Bit of a stretch I think. We even stay on board after duty, e.g. LAX-YVR after operating into LAX.
Fact is CX could have us on board whenever, just put us on the GD, and you have to be backup crew for the operating crew should somebody go sick. If JS on the freighter was of any priority to the company, if would have happened yesterday.
Cider30
Fact is CX could have us on board whenever, just put us on the GD, and you have to be backup crew for the operating crew should somebody go sick. If JS on the freighter was of any priority to the company, if would have happened yesterday.
Cider30
