Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > Fragrant Harbour
Reload this Page >

CX 777 Flyby CP sacked

Fragrant Harbour A forum for the large number of pilots (expats and locals) based with the various airlines in Hong Kong. Air Traffic Controllers are also warmly welcomed into the forum.

CX 777 Flyby CP sacked

Old 14th Feb 2008, 01:22
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Asia
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
CX 777 Flyby CP sacked

Anyone seen or heard of a "Salute" on youtube?
HKJunkie is offline  
Old 14th Feb 2008, 05:02
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Oztrailia
Posts: 2,934
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I love a good flyby like the rest of us....................but I can't say I think that one was too cleaver. A bit low and slow.

Glad they didn't have an engine failure then.

I hear some on the 3rd floor aren't too impressed by it, I can see why.

thoughts?????
ACMS is offline  
Old 14th Feb 2008, 05:27
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: 3.5 from TD
Age: 46
Posts: 1,043
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
"I love a good flyby like the rest of us....................but I can't say I think that one was too cleaver. A bit low and slow."

...Actually you just proved that you don't. Fly-bys at higher altitudes are lame.

"Glad they didn't have an engine failure then."

...Would have been a non event. They looked clean and most likely where quite light. I'm sure the GE-90 would have had no problems dealing with it, especially being that the engines ARE BRAND NEW. I would much rather have an engine failure when clean than in the landing configuration. Would you say the same if they had just done a regular ol' touch and go??

"I hear some on the 3rd floor aren't too impressed by it, I can see why."

...Ah, when is the last time that anything the 3rd floor was impressed with was good? You are talking about the people who write our manuals and set company policy now. Surely you don't seem to imply that they have good judgment and aviation know-how?

"thoughts?????"

...yeah, but I don't want my post to be edited and it really isn't worth it.
Sqwak7700 is offline  
Old 14th Feb 2008, 06:50
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Smogsville
Posts: 1,425
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From the pics that were at the end of a weekly update, its F1 or 5 (LE and a little TE flap).

I'm not on the 777.
SMOC is offline  
Old 14th Feb 2008, 07:18
  #5 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Asia
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Ahh ??

Does CX have a policy on low fly-by's? I am not a pilot but it seems to me that this is not the usual thing for a large transport aircraft to do. I recall CX 330 and I think 744, performing at Avalon and Farnborough some time ago though.
HKJunkie is offline  
Old 14th Feb 2008, 08:18
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: LA
Posts: 160
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From what I know it was at the Boeing airfield and was conducted safely by very experienced pilots.

Nothing wrong from what I can see

Chill guys..
Fac6 is offline  
Old 14th Feb 2008, 08:32
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Nomadic
Posts: 237
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Damn, this is a fun place to work...
The Wraith is offline  
Old 14th Feb 2008, 09:26
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Honkers
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Excellent! Nicely done boys.
Peebee and Jay is offline  
Old 14th Feb 2008, 10:55
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Oztrailia
Posts: 2,934
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It was done by the 777 CP with no practice beforehand.
Flap was at 15 and he was doing 200 kts

he got down to 50' on the Rad Alt.

3 rd floor test Pilot's ( yes the real test Pilot's ) not impressed at his off the cuff fly by at 330 tonnes with quite a few people on board.

If it was at 260 kts clean at 100' I would have been happier.

Still, it looks good.
ACMS is offline  
Old 14th Feb 2008, 11:06
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: I go, therefore I am there!
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
So having set the standard .... I guess that all delivery flights are now authorised to do the same?
arse is offline  
Old 14th Feb 2008, 12:26
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Honkers
Posts: 379
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Quality, great fly by.
badairsucker is offline  
Old 14th Feb 2008, 13:43
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Asia
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Read FAA!! They will see this and if they did not approve it there will be questions. No gear down means airshow. Better have authority, especially in such a high profile vehicle.
Nuff sayd!!!
aislinn is offline  
Old 14th Feb 2008, 15:52
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Smogsville
Posts: 1,425
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
SMOC is offline  
Old 14th Feb 2008, 16:06
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Smogsville
Posts: 1,425
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
SMOC is offline  
Old 14th Feb 2008, 16:13
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Everywhere
Posts: 255
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well with fuel so expensive these days that must have been CFP and use the Contingency ....... not!

Must do that on the next flight under Other...........+5T flyby. Do you think anyone would notice??
Glass Half Empty is offline  
Old 15th Feb 2008, 04:53
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Flaps up and Flat out would have been better, perhaps a bit higher to avoid trigering the FDAP as well.......
Here's an example,
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga..._departure.wmv
Flat out! is offline  
Old 15th Feb 2008, 15:39
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Uptown
Posts: 217
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Fuel? Its FREE because Boeing should handover the aircraft with full fuel in the tanks. It is part of S & P agreement.
Virtual Reality is offline  
Old 15th Feb 2008, 22:21
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: BNE
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
As an outsider, I take it that the flyby was well rehearsed and practiced in a simulator beforehand(and at least authorised at management level)? Potentially, that was a very risky manoeuvre. Had it been an 'off the cuff' flyby, I too would be concerned as a fleet manager - particularly if it had other than essential crew on board.

Personally, I believe that was too low. I agree with the comment that 100' would have been more appropriate and 99% as effective.
aviatorguy is offline  
Old 16th Feb 2008, 03:10
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: World
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Aviatorguy, it was the fleet manager who did it.
chards is offline  
Old 16th Feb 2008, 03:58
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thank God is wasn't off the cuff!!! Otherwise they'd be flying Rubber Dog Shit outta Hong Kong........
Sleeve_of_Wizard is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information

Copyright © 2022 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.