Peanuts to a peanut?
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Peanuts to a peanut?
Is it true someone threw peanuts at that peanut of a CEO, Turdball?
If so, whilst I disagree with any form of violence, one must wonder just how far morale has fallen in this company for it to happen.
Endemic within this company is contempt for the cockpit AND cabin crew from the management, and reciprocal hatred from certainly the cockpit crew, back to the management.
Where will all this end? Let's hope nothing gets broken but a few monstrous egos?
If so, whilst I disagree with any form of violence, one must wonder just how far morale has fallen in this company for it to happen.
Endemic within this company is contempt for the cockpit AND cabin crew from the management, and reciprocal hatred from certainly the cockpit crew, back to the management.
Where will all this end? Let's hope nothing gets broken but a few monstrous egos?
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True. What p-eye-ssed him off was that the dozen or so aircrew present at the time cheered when it happened. He then threw his dummy in the mud and said something to the perp. to the effect that he would be fired. Apparently he has carried through on his threat.
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Kinda remined me of event's years past in the States.
During a strike against a major US airline owned by Frank Lorenzo the pilots shot at each other and bombed each others homes. Several went to jail.
I always wondered why if they were willing to commit crimes to advance the cause why didn't they just assinate Lorenzo. Killing him would have been a simple way to put an end to the matter.
But I guess that's only for the really dedicated guys.
During a strike against a major US airline owned by Frank Lorenzo the pilots shot at each other and bombed each others homes. Several went to jail.
I always wondered why if they were willing to commit crimes to advance the cause why didn't they just assinate Lorenzo. Killing him would have been a simple way to put an end to the matter.
But I guess that's only for the really dedicated guys.
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Loosing ones job is a personal and family disaster, as any 89 er will tell you. However the 89 er's lost there jobs standing
together. This particular Australian was kicked out of the AOA for flagrant breaches of CC, and now finds himself standing
alone. I sincerely hope that he has not lost his job, and returns suitably chastened. You reap what you sow in life!
together. This particular Australian was kicked out of the AOA for flagrant breaches of CC, and now finds himself standing
alone. I sincerely hope that he has not lost his job, and returns suitably chastened. You reap what you sow in life!
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EWhale, they didn't have to 'assinate' Lorenzo because he was already the biggest assh#%e on the planet. 27 suicides and no one took him out. I don't undertand it either. Rumor heard from an Atlas Captain was that Lorenzo is looking to buy them.
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If the "Urban Legend" is correct the perpretrator should have been a little wiser. Especially as our contract has a clause of summary dismissal for "gross insubordination".
Thought I had left all of that behind in the military. Perhaps the company should take another note out of the military. In that the Captain of one of "Her Majesty's" ships would never enter the wardroom without an invite and would certainly withdraw himself from the bar if he thought there was any chance of a "junior" Officer creating a scene. Thus preventing a serious incident and the need for a charge of "Gross Insubordination".
But there again those people are "leaders" and have other peoples well being foremost in their minds, as well as running the "ship" and making "hard" decisions.
"Billy no mates" comes to mind, having to frequent the "Ikea Gay bar"!! "These people are more to be pitied than scolded".
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Thought I had left all of that behind in the military. Perhaps the company should take another note out of the military. In that the Captain of one of "Her Majesty's" ships would never enter the wardroom without an invite and would certainly withdraw himself from the bar if he thought there was any chance of a "junior" Officer creating a scene. Thus preventing a serious incident and the need for a charge of "Gross Insubordination".
But there again those people are "leaders" and have other peoples well being foremost in their minds, as well as running the "ship" and making "hard" decisions.
"Billy no mates" comes to mind, having to frequent the "Ikea Gay bar"!! "These people are more to be pitied than scolded".
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Word on the street has it that there were two captains and one FO involved.
Should make the roster even more challenging if that is possible!
ES
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Sleep after toil,
Port after stormy seas,
Ease after war,
Death after life does greatly please.
Should make the roster even more challenging if that is possible!
ES
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Sleep after toil,
Port after stormy seas,
Ease after war,
Death after life does greatly please.
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Groundflap,
That's a very good suggestion to take our R and R time and money to a different establishment!
I don't understand why people are content to drink in that !!!!!hole anyway's!
It's just full of.... Ah forget it, it's not worth my breath!!
I'll definitly be taking my business elseware for now on.
That's a very good suggestion to take our R and R time and money to a different establishment!
I don't understand why people are content to drink in that !!!!!hole anyway's!
It's just full of.... Ah forget it, it's not worth my breath!!
I'll definitly be taking my business elseware for now on.
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My understanding is that the individual in question was recently suspended from the association for failing to comply with his contract?
I don't know about you but as far as I'm concerned if you're not IN you're OUT and the association has better things to do with it's time than represent none members!!
Just my view, correct me if I'm wrong...
I don't know about you but as far as I'm concerned if you're not IN you're OUT and the association has better things to do with it's time than represent none members!!
Just my view, correct me if I'm wrong...
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It's not support for the individual that is the point in this case, it's support for the principle that you cannot just decide on a whim to end a person's career for something as piffling as this when there are numerous other intermediate steps to follow. If this is allowed to happen then we are all vulnerable and it doesn't matter whether or not there is a union.
The "big" approach would be to support reinstatement and deal with the individual's status vis-a-vis the association at a later stage. I'm sure there will have been ample opportunity for reflection on his part by the time this is over.
The "big" approach would be to support reinstatement and deal with the individual's status vis-a-vis the association at a later stage. I'm sure there will have been ample opportunity for reflection on his part by the time this is over.
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Surely - you are either a member of the AOA or not. If, for your own selfish motives, you decide NOT to be a member (or it's decided for you), then you can hardly have a rethink now.
I agree - if you're out - you're out.
Good riddance but, at the same time, good luck because the whole thing is a monstrously out of proportion reaction to an 'accident'.
IE - get a good lawyer.
I agree - if you're out - you're out.
Good riddance but, at the same time, good luck because the whole thing is a monstrously out of proportion reaction to an 'accident'.
IE - get a good lawyer.
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The man in question is indeed suspended from the AOA for breaking contract compliance, and is receiving "advice" from the
union. To stand arms folded, and watch while his whole life and career are destroyed, places you one rung lower on the ladder
of humanity. Perhaps if he keeps his job, he will see the light and pay a hefty fine, prior to becoming a full and active member of
the AOA. If I am wrong and he returns to his old and selfish ways, I am sure his colleagues will make him wish he'd been
sacked.
union. To stand arms folded, and watch while his whole life and career are destroyed, places you one rung lower on the ladder
of humanity. Perhaps if he keeps his job, he will see the light and pay a hefty fine, prior to becoming a full and active member of
the AOA. If I am wrong and he returns to his old and selfish ways, I am sure his colleagues will make him wish he'd been
sacked.
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Jagman is on the money. Checkmate….what are you thinking?? Here is a guy who has pointed his bottom at the rest of the AOA membership and doesn’t deserve any help at all.
If he has done something to invoke the wrath of our illustrious leaders and is punished, there is a grievance and discipline procedure we all fall under and he may represent himself, by himself. If he is unhappy with the out come, he may take legal action, by himself at his own expense. This guy has a full range of options at his disposal so don’t pity him.
OR if he had supported the AOA when they needed his help, this all would have been organised for him with the benefit of their industrial expertise and the support of the entire membership. You make your bed, you lie in it.
If he has done something to invoke the wrath of our illustrious leaders and is punished, there is a grievance and discipline procedure we all fall under and he may represent himself, by himself. If he is unhappy with the out come, he may take legal action, by himself at his own expense. This guy has a full range of options at his disposal so don’t pity him.
OR if he had supported the AOA when they needed his help, this all would have been organised for him with the benefit of their industrial expertise and the support of the entire membership. You make your bed, you lie in it.