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Saw an advertisement for F/O positions with a new freighter start up Air Hong Kong...supposedly a joint venture between CX and DHL operating AB300-600 freighters...any body out there with the inside track????.....many thanks in advance.
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new freighter start up Air Hong Kong
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Here you go Capt Stoobing....
Air Hong Kong Limited
Formed in 2003. AHK is a business partnership between Cathay Pacific Airways Limited and DHL. It is a new airline that will fulfil the express mail and cargo requirements of D.H.L. in the South East Asian region.
AHK has ordered six new A300-600F aircraft from Airbus Industries and the first aircraft is scheduled to enter service in September 2004, with the remainder following in quick succession. There are options held by AHK for a further four A300-600F aircraft.
All line crew will be based in Singapore following their successful completion of the Airbus conversion training course in Toulouse.
With the prospect of expansion of the AHK network, further base options are being considered and case studies are continually ongoing.
AHK will sponsor the necessary residential and employment visas of new joining pilots so that they can live and work at their base.
Following a successful final interview a formal offer of employment will be made to the applicant. The signing of the offer of employment letter by the applicant and the company will constitute a contract and the provisions contained in the offer of employment become binding.
AHK will provide each pilot all necessary training. As a result, each pilot will be subject to three years training bond. The training bond will become repayable to the company, in accordance with Company Policy, should a pilot voluntarily decide to leave the Company before the completion of three years of employment, calculated from the date of joining.
Salary will be paid in US Dollars
An ‘Under Training' rate of pay will apply to new joining pilots until they have completed their conversion training course and been released to line training under supervision.
Line Pilots will receive an additional monthly Reimbursement of Expenses Incurred allowance which accumulates during time spent away from base. REI is calculated at an hourly rate.
Pilots will also accumulate additional remuneration through AHK's Incentive Pay Policy. This scheme will result in line pilots receiving additional US dollars per month if they fly more hours than the pre-determined monthly flying hour threshold.
Pilots will be entitled to 28 days annual leave. They are also entitled to sick leave, maternity leave and compassionate leave.
The company will provide medical insurance cover to the employee, spouse and dependent children in accordance with Company Policy.
The Company will provide life insurance to the value of 48 months salary.
The Company will provide each pilot a cash allowance as a contribution towards the provision of personal Loss of Licence protection.
Candidates applying for a Captain position shall have at least 5.000 hours total, 2.000 on jet.
Candidates applying for F/o position shall have at least 3.000 hours total, 1.000 on jet.
Good luck fella's!
Air Hong Kong Limited
Formed in 2003. AHK is a business partnership between Cathay Pacific Airways Limited and DHL. It is a new airline that will fulfil the express mail and cargo requirements of D.H.L. in the South East Asian region.
AHK has ordered six new A300-600F aircraft from Airbus Industries and the first aircraft is scheduled to enter service in September 2004, with the remainder following in quick succession. There are options held by AHK for a further four A300-600F aircraft.
All line crew will be based in Singapore following their successful completion of the Airbus conversion training course in Toulouse.
With the prospect of expansion of the AHK network, further base options are being considered and case studies are continually ongoing.
AHK will sponsor the necessary residential and employment visas of new joining pilots so that they can live and work at their base.
Following a successful final interview a formal offer of employment will be made to the applicant. The signing of the offer of employment letter by the applicant and the company will constitute a contract and the provisions contained in the offer of employment become binding.
AHK will provide each pilot all necessary training. As a result, each pilot will be subject to three years training bond. The training bond will become repayable to the company, in accordance with Company Policy, should a pilot voluntarily decide to leave the Company before the completion of three years of employment, calculated from the date of joining.
Salary will be paid in US Dollars
An ‘Under Training' rate of pay will apply to new joining pilots until they have completed their conversion training course and been released to line training under supervision.
Line Pilots will receive an additional monthly Reimbursement of Expenses Incurred allowance which accumulates during time spent away from base. REI is calculated at an hourly rate.
Pilots will also accumulate additional remuneration through AHK's Incentive Pay Policy. This scheme will result in line pilots receiving additional US dollars per month if they fly more hours than the pre-determined monthly flying hour threshold.
Pilots will be entitled to 28 days annual leave. They are also entitled to sick leave, maternity leave and compassionate leave.
The company will provide medical insurance cover to the employee, spouse and dependent children in accordance with Company Policy.
The Company will provide life insurance to the value of 48 months salary.
The Company will provide each pilot a cash allowance as a contribution towards the provision of personal Loss of Licence protection.
Candidates applying for a Captain position shall have at least 5.000 hours total, 2.000 on jet.
Candidates applying for F/o position shall have at least 3.000 hours total, 1.000 on jet.
Good luck fella's!
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Yes, I believe bonding is illegal in HKG. This is one of the several reasons that the crews are being based in SIN where it is legal and common.
Other bases for the future, as required to cover the DHL contract will be BKK and NRT, but there will be visa "sponsorship" problems for those ports so nothing definite yet. (Rumour has it that it is difficult to sponsor Indonesian and Philippino passport holders to those ports).
Street rumour is around USD$4,000 per month for Captains with projected IPP (Incentive Pay Policy) up to $3,000 on a really good month. So maybe half of that IPP for a regular month.
As you can see they are not trying to attract people away from the US majors. Most of the applicants are expected to come from S.E. Asia. Maybe to poach a few from Orient Thai, for instance, and there are still a lot of Philippine pilots that are out of work from the last cull at Philippine Airlines .
Just rumours and smoke, but there must be a fire there somewhere...
Other bases for the future, as required to cover the DHL contract will be BKK and NRT, but there will be visa "sponsorship" problems for those ports so nothing definite yet. (Rumour has it that it is difficult to sponsor Indonesian and Philippino passport holders to those ports).
Street rumour is around USD$4,000 per month for Captains with projected IPP (Incentive Pay Policy) up to $3,000 on a really good month. So maybe half of that IPP for a regular month.
As you can see they are not trying to attract people away from the US majors. Most of the applicants are expected to come from S.E. Asia. Maybe to poach a few from Orient Thai, for instance, and there are still a lot of Philippine pilots that are out of work from the last cull at Philippine Airlines .
Just rumours and smoke, but there must be a fire there somewhere...
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So once again the Swire colonialists show thier true colors.....for every pathetic advert on TVB professing that CX is the 'heart of Hong Kong' and 'Hong Kong is our home' there is a pilots job off to Singapore on slave wages due to those inconsiderate labor laws about bonding........... surely it can't be long before even old Tung Chihuahuas' boys will notice the discrepancy between fiction and facts.......
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I knew things were bad...BUT
Just received an invitation to go for an initial Interview with AHK as a DE Captain.
It's been a long time between drinks,but I did a double take when I saw the conditions and Salary.
U.S. 60-70K for a Line Captain
A bit, and I mean a bit of Duty Allowance
and some overtime rate and starting point not stated
Medical insurance
some sympathy money for the misses if you cark it.
and something as a contribution to LOL.
The initial Base is Singapore but others are being considered.
I've never even being to Singapore,but would I be out of line suggesting the Salary would just cover an apartment for a family?.
Then there's schooling,transport and beer!
No,I must have it read it incorrectly,I'll read it again and this time I'll get it right.
It's been a long time between drinks,but I did a double take when I saw the conditions and Salary.
U.S. 60-70K for a Line Captain
A bit, and I mean a bit of Duty Allowance
and some overtime rate and starting point not stated
Medical insurance
some sympathy money for the misses if you cark it.
and something as a contribution to LOL.
The initial Base is Singapore but others are being considered.
I've never even being to Singapore,but would I be out of line suggesting the Salary would just cover an apartment for a family?.
Then there's schooling,transport and beer!
No,I must have it read it incorrectly,I'll read it again and this time I'll get it right.
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Don't forget there is also the (intangible) reward of working for one of the aviation worlds great managers in Captain G.O. Few men have shown the quality of their integrity and management skills in the same way as G, ask anyone in CX. It is always worth remembering though that the'silent cockpit' philosophy that might be noted from other crewmembers when the great man deigns to grace the flight deck, is not, as you may well think, a result of Gs management methods in the past....ooooh no, they are just in awe of his magnificence.................
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We may disagree on some issues but NOT this one.
I was always taught not to speak or even think ill of my fellow man but there is always one exception in a lifetime that provides the requisite extenuating circumstances. In GO all the stars line up.
Power corrupts and I have no doubt absolute power will corrupt absolutely.
On the Hofstede Index - a serious yoghurt when it comes to the possible effects of culture on inter-cockpit communications.
TBOBL
We may disagree on some issues but NOT this one.
I was always taught not to speak or even think ill of my fellow man but there is always one exception in a lifetime that provides the requisite extenuating circumstances. In GO all the stars line up.
Power corrupts and I have no doubt absolute power will corrupt absolutely.
On the Hofstede Index - a serious yoghurt when it comes to the possible effects of culture on inter-cockpit communications.
TBOBL
Last edited by VR-HFX; 20th Feb 2004 at 06:12.
Well Ladies and Gentlemen,
Do I even bother to make the effort to go up there and talk to these people? Please no sarcastic replies as I need to sort this out ASAP.
There seems to be a lot of negativity about this.
Is this going to inhibit any CX or Dragon chances I may have in the future?
Help please!!!!!!!!!!
Capt Stoobing.
Do I even bother to make the effort to go up there and talk to these people? Please no sarcastic replies as I need to sort this out ASAP.
There seems to be a lot of negativity about this.
Is this going to inhibit any CX or Dragon chances I may have in the future?
Help please!!!!!!!!!!
Capt Stoobing.
Capt Stoo
I have no idea what kind of experience you have but if it were me I would be applying for CX mainline S/O. If you are older with experience try an F/O application with CX Freighters or KA.
I would stay away from AHK. If you have thick skin, that is one thing, but the COS do not give you a chance of any kind of an existence in Singapore.
I have no idea what kind of experience you have but if it were me I would be applying for CX mainline S/O. If you are older with experience try an F/O application with CX Freighters or KA.
I would stay away from AHK. If you have thick skin, that is one thing, but the COS do not give you a chance of any kind of an existence in Singapore.
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I have some inside guff on the DHL/AHK spots. Cx have told mainline and freighter drivers that the initial crews will be contracted from europe.
What they failed to say was that their package was so sh1t that they couldn't get enough pilots to commence full services for the 6 airframes!
They were and still are offering minimal pay, no housing allowance in WSSS, no travel allowance ( big hit there expats if you would like to travel home once per year to let the kiddies see the oldies b4 they die), minimal medical and LOLI.
All in all this whole deal is promoting a potentially dangerous environment if they cannot get the required numbers they might drop the standard and thn start dropping airframes.
The A300-600 is not a small acft and just because its night freight doesn't mean all smooth sailing.
I welcome the unlucky sods to the equator and southern chinese coast during the upcoming wet season. Don't forget when flying approaches in typhoon wx if the radar is all red it hasn't failed it is just that ****ty.
Godd luck flying with DHL if you really think you are worth that little.
Try applying to CX freighters or Dragonair cargo they have just announced 3 744's to be converted to freighters for extra services to europe!
Then again you will need right of abode in europe won't you.
What they failed to say was that their package was so sh1t that they couldn't get enough pilots to commence full services for the 6 airframes!
They were and still are offering minimal pay, no housing allowance in WSSS, no travel allowance ( big hit there expats if you would like to travel home once per year to let the kiddies see the oldies b4 they die), minimal medical and LOLI.
All in all this whole deal is promoting a potentially dangerous environment if they cannot get the required numbers they might drop the standard and thn start dropping airframes.
The A300-600 is not a small acft and just because its night freight doesn't mean all smooth sailing.
I welcome the unlucky sods to the equator and southern chinese coast during the upcoming wet season. Don't forget when flying approaches in typhoon wx if the radar is all red it hasn't failed it is just that ****ty.
Godd luck flying with DHL if you really think you are worth that little.
Try applying to CX freighters or Dragonair cargo they have just announced 3 744's to be converted to freighters for extra services to europe!
Then again you will need right of abode in europe won't you.
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Do these guys have the same kind of medical requirements as the mainline Cathay ops?
Does anybody know what those req are? 'specially the eyesight?
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cheers
Does anybody know what those req are? 'specially the eyesight?
search function doesnt work, just in case you wondered
cheers