IMC / IR(R) embedded privileges currency
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Genghis - I did find this sentence whilst looking at third country licence verification process - so it seems that this is still a possibility.
"Instrument Rating (Restricted) where applied for on the basis of a Third Country single pilot instrument rating "
"Instrument Rating (Restricted) where applied for on the basis of a Third Country single pilot instrument rating "
Current policy is still as per CAP804:
( Apologies for the font - the latest PPRuNe software still doesn't include user-selectable font size / type... )
An applicant who holds an ICAO IR(A) or military green Instrument Rating (Aeroplanes) and has passed a single-pilot IR test in the 24 months preceding the date of application for the IMC Rating / IR (Restricted) will be credited with a pass in the initial IMC Rating/ IR (Restricted) Skill Test and the written examination. The applicant must apply for the issue of the IMC rating within 24 months of the last IR test passed, The IMC Rating / IR(Restricted) will be valid for 25 months after the last day of the month in which the last IR test was successfully passed.
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Beagle - thank you, I should have known it was in CAP804. Now I just need to figure out how this applies if one already held an IR(R) that was expired.. ie if my IR test/proficiency checks could be used to validate my IR(R) for my already held expired IR(R) ....
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Teaching IR(R)
Hi all,
Can someone clarify what is required for an FI (with an MEP/CPL/IR) to teach IR(R) - the old IMC rating?
Many schools quote the following:
Pre-Course Requirements
Hold a valid IR(R) and an unrestricted FI rating;
Completed at least 10 hours flight time by sole reference to instruments in an aeroplane, Full Flight simulator, Flight Training Device (FTD) 2/3 or Flight Navigation Procedure Trainer (FNPT)II.
I am assuming I can teach IR(R) if I "only" have an IR and not an IR(R)? Also if I have an IR, I automatically fulfill the 10 hour requirement?
Would appreciate if someone could clarify.
Many thanks
Can someone clarify what is required for an FI (with an MEP/CPL/IR) to teach IR(R) - the old IMC rating?
Many schools quote the following:
Pre-Course Requirements
Hold a valid IR(R) and an unrestricted FI rating;
Completed at least 10 hours flight time by sole reference to instruments in an aeroplane, Full Flight simulator, Flight Training Device (FTD) 2/3 or Flight Navigation Procedure Trainer (FNPT)II.
I am assuming I can teach IR(R) if I "only" have an IR and not an IR(R)? Also if I have an IR, I automatically fulfill the 10 hour requirement?
Would appreciate if someone could clarify.
Many thanks
Hold a valid IR(R) and an unrestricted FI rating;]
To teach for the IMC or IR a FI must have embedded IRI privileges, this is indicated in section XII of the licence under FI with a (g) for the IR and (g)(IRR) for the IMC-IRR simply holding an IR is not enough.
Completed at least 10 hours flight time by sole reference to instruments in an aeroplane
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While we are on the subject. FAA CPL/IR and has a EASA PPL, SEP, IMC, FI but no CPL TK and No Easa IR. Are they able to teach for the IMC? as IN 2016-082 states (my bold):
4.3
In addition, the CAA will authorise instructors to instruct for the IMC Rating/IR(R) if they satisfy the following requirements:
a) hold a Part-FCL aeroplane licence issued by the UK CAA; and
b) hold a Flight Instructor (Aeroplane) (FI(A)) without supervisory restriction, qualified to instruct for the single pilot class rating for the class or type of aeroplane which the IR(R) instruction is to be conducted in; and
c) hold a valid IR(R) rating or IR(A) (not En-route Instrument Rating (EIR)) on the Part- FCL licence; and
d) have passed all TK examinations either for the issue of a CPL(A) or IRI(A), subject to the same time limitations stated in Part-FCL Annex I; and
e) have completed at least 10 hours flight time by sole reference to instruments in an aeroplane, Full Flight Simulator (FFS), Flight Training Device (FTD) 2/3 or Flight Navigation Procedure Trainer (FNPT) II; and
f) have completed the course as specified in FCL.905.FI(g) as detailed in FCL.930.IRI; and
g) have passed an Assessment of Competence to instruct for the IR(R) with a Flight Instructor Examiner (FIE) as specified in FCL.905.FI(g).
Note: The course specified in FCL.905.FI(g) may be completed for the purpose of qualifying to instruct for the IR(R) without having the prerequisite IFR experience for the issue of the FCL.905.FI(g) privileges.
Also I have no idea what IRI(TK) is. As far as I know there is no such thing?
4.3
In addition, the CAA will authorise instructors to instruct for the IMC Rating/IR(R) if they satisfy the following requirements:
a) hold a Part-FCL aeroplane licence issued by the UK CAA; and
b) hold a Flight Instructor (Aeroplane) (FI(A)) without supervisory restriction, qualified to instruct for the single pilot class rating for the class or type of aeroplane which the IR(R) instruction is to be conducted in; and
c) hold a valid IR(R) rating or IR(A) (not En-route Instrument Rating (EIR)) on the Part- FCL licence; and
d) have passed all TK examinations either for the issue of a CPL(A) or IRI(A), subject to the same time limitations stated in Part-FCL Annex I; and
e) have completed at least 10 hours flight time by sole reference to instruments in an aeroplane, Full Flight Simulator (FFS), Flight Training Device (FTD) 2/3 or Flight Navigation Procedure Trainer (FNPT) II; and
f) have completed the course as specified in FCL.905.FI(g) as detailed in FCL.930.IRI; and
g) have passed an Assessment of Competence to instruct for the IR(R) with a Flight Instructor Examiner (FIE) as specified in FCL.905.FI(g).
Note: The course specified in FCL.905.FI(g) may be completed for the purpose of qualifying to instruct for the IR(R) without having the prerequisite IFR experience for the issue of the FCL.905.FI(g) privileges.
Also I have no idea what IRI(TK) is. As far as I know there is no such thing?
Also I have no idea what IRI(TK) is. As far as I know there is no such thing?
If you have not passed the CPL exams, your instruction is limited to LAPL level. This also includes any ratings which may be included in a LAPL if you are additionally qualified (e.g. the Aerobatic Rating). But an IR(R) cannot be included in a LAPL, so you cannot provide instruction for the IR(R) as the minimum licence level in which an IR(R) can be included is the PPL(A).
If you have not passed the CPL exams, your instruction is limited to LAPL level.
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Thanks for your replies! So in a nutshell, if I have an EASA ME CPL IR FI, with a SOLI that is not the UK, the only way to teach IR(R) in the UK is to transfer my SOLI to UK CAA. Then do I need to go through IR(R) course to put it on my licence?
Is there a document that details all these regulations? Could not find the answer in ANO.
Is there a document that details all these regulations? Could not find the answer in ANO.
A lot of this information was promulgatewed by Information Notice try IN2016-82
You would need to trasfer your SOLI to the UK and you would need to complete the IRI course if you have not already done so.
You would need to trasfer your SOLI to the UK and you would need to complete the IRI course if you have not already done so.