Female Flight Instructor
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Teaching A female is always better then teaching a male but remember....
when u teach a male u will be teaching one person ,, whn its comes to female u will be teaching a family
Good Luck finding One
when u teach a male u will be teaching one person ,, whn its comes to female u will be teaching a family
Good Luck finding One
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Female FIC instructor
Eva Paul at The Pilot Centre, Denham teaches Flight Instructors. Most excellent.
Phone 01895 833838
Cheers,
TheOddOne
Phone 01895 833838
Cheers,
TheOddOne
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I wonder why you should have a preference for a female instructor?
Back in my instructing days, I had a few women as pupils. Two or three were ineducable (as were several men I tried to teach), most of them were below average and failed along the way. Women on the ground tend to have their heads in the clouds - when they are in the clouds their minds tend to be earthbound! But I had a couple who were absolutely superlative. One, ironically, was killed in a car crash through no fault of her own. The other went on to get an ATPL.
In my experience, a good woman pilot is head and shoulders above all but the very best of her male counterparts. Don't often meet them but they are unmistakable when you do; usually quiet and unassuming but always thoroughly professional in what they do. Patty Wagstaff comes to mind.
If you find such an instructor, you will be a lucky man indeed for not only will you find the skill but perhaps a level of patience not always characteristic of the male FI.
Good luck.
GQ.
Back in my instructing days, I had a few women as pupils. Two or three were ineducable (as were several men I tried to teach), most of them were below average and failed along the way. Women on the ground tend to have their heads in the clouds - when they are in the clouds their minds tend to be earthbound! But I had a couple who were absolutely superlative. One, ironically, was killed in a car crash through no fault of her own. The other went on to get an ATPL.
In my experience, a good woman pilot is head and shoulders above all but the very best of her male counterparts. Don't often meet them but they are unmistakable when you do; usually quiet and unassuming but always thoroughly professional in what they do. Patty Wagstaff comes to mind.
If you find such an instructor, you will be a lucky man indeed for not only will you find the skill but perhaps a level of patience not always characteristic of the male FI.
Good luck.
GQ.
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Why?
I, too, can confirm that Carol Cooper is highly recommended as an instructor at various levels including FI.
However, I have to wonder why you care about the instructor's sex. Choosing an instructor based on their sex is no more valid than choosing one based on their race.
In this case I don't suppose that your prejudice is illegal because you won't be employing directly but I can suggest some other criteria you should apply in place of the sex of your instructor: -
1. Their ability to instruct you. Reputation is relevant but their natural style will suit some students better than others. A better instructor will be able to adapt their natural style to you to some extent but if you are poles apart then you're not likely to work well together.
2. Whether you're likely to enjoy each other's company - you'll be spending a fair bit of time together in a small space.
3. Availability on the terms that suit you.
4. A location that suits you.
5. Working within an organisation that will help rather than hinder the process.
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I would suggest that you apply sensible criteria including but not limited to the above and then not worry what race, sex, good/bad looks etc, you end up with. There are plenty of people of both sexes in all professions who are better or worse than their peers quite independantly of their sex.
However, I have to wonder why you care about the instructor's sex. Choosing an instructor based on their sex is no more valid than choosing one based on their race.
In this case I don't suppose that your prejudice is illegal because you won't be employing directly but I can suggest some other criteria you should apply in place of the sex of your instructor: -
1. Their ability to instruct you. Reputation is relevant but their natural style will suit some students better than others. A better instructor will be able to adapt their natural style to you to some extent but if you are poles apart then you're not likely to work well together.
2. Whether you're likely to enjoy each other's company - you'll be spending a fair bit of time together in a small space.
3. Availability on the terms that suit you.
4. A location that suits you.
5. Working within an organisation that will help rather than hinder the process.
...
...
I would suggest that you apply sensible criteria including but not limited to the above and then not worry what race, sex, good/bad looks etc, you end up with. There are plenty of people of both sexes in all professions who are better or worse than their peers quite independantly of their sex.
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I think it's most likely that chiplight2005 is a woman. If he is male, I personally find it a bit odd. But if she's female.... I would love to have had a female instructor...I've never yet had one. Is that so strange? Is it prejudice to prefer to be in a very cramped cockpit for weeks on end during a very stressful course, with someone who is possibly more likely to think like I do, who isn't likely to misconstrue anything I say or do that might conceivably have sexual connotations, and who might even understand me if I'm having problems? I'm not saying a man couldn't fulfil all those conditions...but I never yet met one who could! So yes, maybe it's prejudice, technically. But so what? And of course other things matter too. But I'd tend to take it as a given that anyone teaching FI courses was probably pretty good.
The FI course (the rotary one at least) is hard enough anyway. If you have personal preferences of any type that might make it easier, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
The FI course (the rotary one at least) is hard enough anyway. If you have personal preferences of any type that might make it easier, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
Why do it if it's not fun?
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Is it prejudice to prefer to be in a very cramped cockpit for weeks on end during a very stressful course, with someone who is [female]
But it does occur to me that, after doing the FIC, chiplight2005 will be spending many months or years in a very cramped cockpit, mostly with men. If he/she has a very strong reason not to want to do this at this stage, he/she will have to overcome that before starting an instructing job.....
For what it's worth, I've flown with two female instructors. One was absolutely the worst instructor I've ever flown with. Because I was a little "different" (she was an FAA instructor, used to teaching night flying to low-hour students, and I was a couple-of-hundred hour PPL doing a UK night qualification, so far more experienced than the students she normally did night flying with) she was at a complete loss as to what to do with me, and I pretty much told her what exercises to do when.
The other female instructor is very good. I immediately took to flying with her, remained friends with her after I completed my PPL, and asked her to instruct me for other courses before she got herself an airline job.
So, based on my very small sample of female instructors, it's not possible to generalise!
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Here's my offering - for what it's worth...
The best advice I can give is:
When I started out on the (3 year) journey to get my CPL and FI rating I fully intended to do the FIC with Eva at The Pilot Centre. (Meeting my wife and moving to Kent kinda changed the logistics of that one - so I used an FIE local to my new home). I state this so you can make your own accurate assessment of my views.
I was a member at The Pilot Centre for 5 years and never failed to be impressed by Eva.
I hope that, one day, I can match her ability to:
Specific examples:
OC619
P.S. I was the 200 hour PPL!!
(Edited to correct punctuation - that's how sad I am)
The best advice I can give is:
- Go and talk to ALL the instructors you are considering. First impressions are important - also you don't want to make sure you are going to be comfortable where you are doing your "ground work".
- Consider what your availability is. I was severely limited in the places I could train by the fact I was limited to weekends.
- Don't forget weather. If you are more than an hour from the airfield you could end up having to set out in the morning before you know if you will be able to fly.
When I started out on the (3 year) journey to get my CPL and FI rating I fully intended to do the FIC with Eva at The Pilot Centre. (Meeting my wife and moving to Kent kinda changed the logistics of that one - so I used an FIE local to my new home). I state this so you can make your own accurate assessment of my views.
I was a member at The Pilot Centre for 5 years and never failed to be impressed by Eva.
I hope that, one day, I can match her ability to:
- Identify a pilots problem
- Diagnose the cause
- Transfer the appropriate knowledge, in a suitable way for the student, to resolve the problem
Specific examples:
- 200 hour PPL who could "grease" (almost) every landing - but was not happy because he knew the wheels were touching the runway before he wanted. ONE circuit was all it took Eva to sort it out!!!
- Pre-solo PPL who had been let down by other schools (including almost 50 hours from a US school in his book) and not gone solo. It didn't take Eva long to identify the issues and get him off alone.
OC619
P.S. I was the 200 hour PPL!!
(Edited to correct punctuation - that's how sad I am)
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Originally Posted by Whirlybird
If he is male, I personally find it a bit odd.
OC619
P.S. I know (to poach somone else's line): "Hat, Coat, Door"....
P.P.S. I agree with you about the probable gender of the thread originator.
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A female who feels that she has been subject to sex discrimination in previous training in this male-dominated industry might wish to undertake future training with a female instructor. I'm guesing that's the background to this one.
Women learn differently and women teach differently.
Women learn differently and women teach differently.
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OC619,
I read that three times and then decided maybe it was a compliment.
OK, so I'm slow.
Precisely. 
I read that three times and then decided maybe it was a compliment.
OK, so I'm slow.
Women learn differently and women teach differently.
