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I was very, very nearly terminally discouraged by the "I'll pass you but I shouldn't" approach, after a minor test early in my training... From someone I later realised had a personal gripe. He also took it upon himself to assure me I would never make it through the next stages. I believed him and spent a wretched couple of months watching my flying, and of course my confidence, get worse and worse. I then did what I should have done as soon as I left that room, and went elsewhere. It took a while to get the confidence back, but I went on to pass all subsequent tests first time.
I have quite a few friends who teach, in one capacity or another. They have pointed out that comments such as "I'll pass you but I shouldn't" are not only poisonous, but completely unprofessional. You pass someone (with whatever dimension of debrief) or you don't. To do something in the middle is very effective psychological sabotage, and should never happen.
I have quite a few friends who teach, in one capacity or another. They have pointed out that comments such as "I'll pass you but I shouldn't" are not only poisonous, but completely unprofessional. You pass someone (with whatever dimension of debrief) or you don't. To do something in the middle is very effective psychological sabotage, and should never happen.
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on my skills test i can safely say the examiner didnt do anything to make me feel at ease!!The whole test was very very formal ( i know it should be, but not as this was made to be)!
as you say BEagle:
1. My examiner acknowledged i was very nervous.Never spoke throughout the test....didnt even speak when i asked him/her something!
2. Preflight grilling that i have never had before!!Questions about the ATPL exams that i had passed over a year ago!!
3. Asked a question on the ground about what i would do in the air in a certain situation. It was blatently obvious i couldnt answer this question as i hadnt been taught it on my course. I was taught to do the drill the school told me. It didnt fit with what he wanted. He still proceeded with the flying aspect of the test although knowing that when the sitaution arised i wouldnt know what to do!! He failed me on that!!!600 quid down the drain!! ........Maybe i was a victim of the format of the test changing very recently........we were all a bit surprised by this one!!
4. Following re test was just as bad! finished and passed test!
5. Examiner said : "Its a pass but with a bollocking!" Completely shattered what little confidence i had before. To say i abhor this person would be an understatement!!
Should i have appealed??? I think so!! I reckon i should have got a partial because i made another error in the test, purely my fault!
Is it partly the schools fault? yes, for not teaching me that little bit!!
Is it my fault for not being super confident? yes,but what can i do?
As a result i have to think long and hard about whether i will go on to do a bit more training....
My question to that examiner would be : - " why are you such a
?"
as you say BEagle:
1. My examiner acknowledged i was very nervous.Never spoke throughout the test....didnt even speak when i asked him/her something!
2. Preflight grilling that i have never had before!!Questions about the ATPL exams that i had passed over a year ago!!
3. Asked a question on the ground about what i would do in the air in a certain situation. It was blatently obvious i couldnt answer this question as i hadnt been taught it on my course. I was taught to do the drill the school told me. It didnt fit with what he wanted. He still proceeded with the flying aspect of the test although knowing that when the sitaution arised i wouldnt know what to do!! He failed me on that!!!600 quid down the drain!! ........Maybe i was a victim of the format of the test changing very recently........we were all a bit surprised by this one!!
4. Following re test was just as bad! finished and passed test!
5. Examiner said : "Its a pass but with a bollocking!" Completely shattered what little confidence i had before. To say i abhor this person would be an understatement!!
Should i have appealed??? I think so!! I reckon i should have got a partial because i made another error in the test, purely my fault!
Is it partly the schools fault? yes, for not teaching me that little bit!!
Is it my fault for not being super confident? yes,but what can i do?
As a result i have to think long and hard about whether i will go on to do a bit more training....
My question to that examiner would be : - " why are you such a
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I've just read the last posting and I sympathise with Rowley. But would like to add that there is a huge difference between "P.W.B" and an outright statement that you shouldn't have passed. We've all had "PWB" and however long and harsh the "B" bit, there's no ambiguity and no (completely inappropriate and too often personal) questions raised about our overall ability to progress. "PWB" shoudn't destroy your confidence. Quite the reverse in fact, since the examiner presumably reckons it's worth his/her breath. The other thing does destroy confidence, and serves no useful purpose whatsoever.
