Well if you think that UK crews in general are worse than others (not my opinion BTW) then you should try a belgian for size. Man do they suffer from the "4-stripe syndrom" in a big way. However, applying a detached and professional approach does help. That and having all your stuff correctly prepared will carry you a long way, even with the most hot-headed flyguy.

Smokin'

WHY ALL THIS BACKSLAPPING, BOOT LICKING, LOVEY DOVEY HYPE?? We all know Ops guys are so blatantly envious of us pilots, its really a waste of time trying to explain to them why our roles are more valued and dare I say it superior.
There is no comparison in the skills required to command a large jet aircraft, compared to the paper shuffling they so often whinge and complain about having to do.
GO ON get a license (if you're up to it) and then maybe, just maybe you'll have some credibility when it comes to discussing aviation with the professionals.

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flameout-you've just proved my point about UK flightdeck.nice one.

Flameout,

Your comment, <our roles are more valued and dare I say it superior.> With a comment like that you are very likely to be flamed out.

I'm embarrassed for you! Very chidish typing.

Have you ever stopped to think how different it would have been if you didn't get the 'breaks' that you did. (Oh I know you worked hard for it, so did I). We are not 'superior' people, just people who worked hard and got the breaks.

There are very many other people out there who could do our jobs as well as us, or better.

I, for one, am thankful.


G'Day
Exeng

Flameout

Do you fly, or just type and follow a purple line?
Best of luck with a CRM course.
There are good guys and prats on the ground and in the air.

Oh and best of luck with the cosmic radiation.

Flameout must be a wannabe himself as I can't see a REAL pilot with that attitude. I'm sure a guy from ops would have already knocked f*** out of him. Maybe he flies PA28's for a living...

Flamout,
I'd like to meet you one day....

Waco,
Awww bless...
You must have been logging jumpseat rides since the "Brown" B737's....
Are the other lads at Parkhurst aware of this...? Opened the floodgates for major p!sstaking or what.....

See you later
007


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Hey JB
I'm not bothered!

What does worry me, is that I once had a
great flight deck visit on a comet. A bet you did'nt realise I was that old.

Are you officially a bronze god yet ?

I've had pilots phoning now asking me for pax figures. Maybe they've all read this topic.

If it happens again, I'll be phoning the captain on his mobile, asking to speak to the F/O, and tell him to land back with a certain fuel quantity. See it does work both ways. Surely I don't have to have any qualifications for this do I Secret Squirrel ? ( Page 2 ).

"it may sound very amusing to waltz into a flight deck and ask if the bugs have been set etc., except there's only one problem: you're not qualified to ask that question. You wouldn't know whether the pilots were telling the truth or not." We wouldn't ask the question if we didn't know what the right answer would be. We are wannabe's. This is the perfect way to get into the aviation industry and so we learn things about the aircraft we operate to help us in the future when we go for the ARB's.

"Did my wife get upgraded?"
Nuff said.

KYJELLY, LOL. You must admit that you have rather left yourself open to this type of jibing at work. What did you expect? Does it really surprise you that they may have cottoned on to who you are and are now having a little bit of fun?

I know that if you worked where I do I'd have had amusement for a whole year! Still, small things.....

KYJELLY, get a sense of humour and you might find that life is sooooo much more fun.

Dear oh dear, is this thread still running?Can someone please pull the plug on this one!

The privilege we have in having a didicated Ops forum on PPRUNE might be better used to foster working relations with our pilot colleages rather this bashing.

KYGMSY respect as a professional is earned and take my advice you're going about it the wrong way if have attitudes to your work such as I'm reading here.


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Alternatively,they could just p*** off back to their own forum instead of taking the p*** on ours.However,I do agree that this subject needs closing-NOW!!!!!

No Sig...
Wilko!!!!



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