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I bet everyone has heard the "I'm new here and unsure if this is the right place to post this." line. And I will this is no different to those posts...
Hi! I'm new here and I am unsure if this forum is the right place to post this but bare with me. On to my topic!
So, I've been scouring the forums for advice, answers and undying insights on the immediate aftermath of finishing from an EASA part 147 approved training organization yet to my luck I am still in need of enlightenment on the matter.
I have decided to go through a part 145 organization to acquire my license. All I'm asking for is how do you do that? Apparently most airlines are looking for aircraft technicians or aircraft mechanics with a 5 year post training experience! How am I to compete with the countless applications that go through airlines' respective HR departments?! I just want to know how others on this forum got a kick start in their career after going through a part 147.
On another note. I have a burning question, how would a fresh graduate's resume would look and what would it contain? (Ok, that was two burning questions then). I have searched google for that and apparently I could not find a resume sample fresh graduates in Aircraft Maintenance Engineering.
I bet everyone has heard the "I'm new here and unsure if this is the right place to post this." line. And I will this is no different to those posts...
Hi! I'm new here and I am unsure if this forum is the right place to post this but bare with me. On to my topic!
So, I've been scouring the forums for advice, answers and undying insights on the immediate aftermath of finishing from an EASA part 147 approved training organization yet to my luck I am still in need of enlightenment on the matter.
I have decided to go through a part 145 organization to acquire my license. All I'm asking for is how do you do that? Apparently most airlines are looking for aircraft technicians or aircraft mechanics with a 5 year post training experience! How am I to compete with the countless applications that go through airlines' respective HR departments?! I just want to know how others on this forum got a kick start in their career after going through a part 147.
On another note. I have a burning question, how would a fresh graduate's resume would look and what would it contain? (Ok, that was two burning questions then). I have searched google for that and apparently I could not find a resume sample fresh graduates in Aircraft Maintenance Engineering.
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Just for interest, and to help people respond, can you confirm which course you have completed (ie Category A, or B1.1, or B2 etc) and whether or not you have completed the OJT which is a part of that course (NB do not confuse this with the work experience requirement you are asking about).
If you have completed the whole course, including OJT, you should have a proper EASA Basic Training Certificate in your hands.
Is that the case?
(Be careful; a "Letter of Completion" or anything like that, is NOT an EASA BTC, and probably indicates that you have not completed the OJT.)
Just for interest, and to help people respond, can you confirm which course you have completed (ie Category A, or B1.1, or B2 etc) and whether or not you have completed the OJT which is a part of that course (NB do not confuse this with the work experience requirement you are asking about).
If you have completed the whole course, including OJT, you should have a proper EASA Basic Training Certificate in your hands.
Is that the case?
(Be careful; a "Letter of Completion" or anything like that, is NOT an EASA BTC, and probably indicates that you have not completed the OJT.)
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I am sorry I have mistakenly omitted that significant information out.
Yes I have completed everything under my B1.1 course including the part 145 OJT within that course. Furthermore, I do have with me an EASA Certificate of Recognition which states that I have successfully passed the approved basic training course (including practical training and practical assessment).
In summary, yes that is the case.
Yes I have completed everything under my B1.1 course including the part 145 OJT within that course. Furthermore, I do have with me an EASA Certificate of Recognition which states that I have successfully passed the approved basic training course (including practical training and practical assessment).
In summary, yes that is the case.
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That sounds OK, although there's a tiny alarm bell ringing over why the Practical Training is specified, if it is, on the certificate. (Perhaps I misunderstood your email).
The certificate wording must be precisely as per Appendix III to Part 147 (see the latest consolidated version) and in your case must specifiy BASIC TRAINING COURSE without any other words.
That tells anyone that you have completed all three elements of the Basic Training course with that Part 147-approved organisation using its approved course material, programme and hours.
The elements are the Module classroom work and examinations, Practical Training & Assessments, and the structured OJT, which must all be done by, or under the control and/or supervision of the Part 147 organisation, to make the course a fully "approved" course, which then entitles you to the reduced work experience period.
That sounds OK, although there's a tiny alarm bell ringing over why the Practical Training is specified, if it is, on the certificate. (Perhaps I misunderstood your email).
The certificate wording must be precisely as per Appendix III to Part 147 (see the latest consolidated version) and in your case must specifiy BASIC TRAINING COURSE without any other words.
That tells anyone that you have completed all three elements of the Basic Training course with that Part 147-approved organisation using its approved course material, programme and hours.
The elements are the Module classroom work and examinations, Practical Training & Assessments, and the structured OJT, which must all be done by, or under the control and/or supervision of the Part 147 organisation, to make the course a fully "approved" course, which then entitles you to the reduced work experience period.
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I do believe I have completed all three elements of the course.
Furthermore, here is the exact wording on my certificate:
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This Certificate of Recognition is issued to: (Name)
By: (training organization)
a maintenance training organization approved to provide training and conduct examinations within its approval schedule and in accordance with Annex IV (Part-147) of Regulation (EC) No 2042/2003.
This Certificate confirms that the above named person successfully passed the approved basic training course (including practical training and practical assessment) stated below in compliance with Regulation (EC) No 216/2008 of the European Parliament and of the Council and to Commission Regulation (EC) No 2042/2003 for the time being in force.
Basic Training Course and Basic Examination
B1.1 Line Maintenance Certifying Technician/Base Maintenance Technician
Aeroplanes - Turbine
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Capot, I do believe that everything is in order and I have no doubts on the certificates I have obtained.
Furthermore, here is the exact wording on my certificate:
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This Certificate of Recognition is issued to: (Name)
By: (training organization)
a maintenance training organization approved to provide training and conduct examinations within its approval schedule and in accordance with Annex IV (Part-147) of Regulation (EC) No 2042/2003.
This Certificate confirms that the above named person successfully passed the approved basic training course (including practical training and practical assessment) stated below in compliance with Regulation (EC) No 216/2008 of the European Parliament and of the Council and to Commission Regulation (EC) No 2042/2003 for the time being in force.
Basic Training Course and Basic Examination
B1.1 Line Maintenance Certifying Technician/Base Maintenance Technician
Aeroplanes - Turbine
###
Capot, I do believe that everything is in order and I have no doubts on the certificates I have obtained.
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I'm sure you are right. In the UK, at least, whether or not the certificate must accord exactly with the Appendix wording seems to depend on the idiosyncracies of the orgnaisation's CAA Surveyor. Some demand it, others don't.
But yours certainly evidences the Basic Training Course, which is what counts. If it was my certificate I would send a copy to the CAA to check that it is OK, noting that it does not strictly comply. You don't want some pedant in 2 years time telling you that it's not valid. But that's up to you.
Don't forget that without a licence you are applying for work as an unlicensed mechanic with good background knowledge and little or no experience. You have to convince the employer that you are keen to get your hands dirty, will do what you are told and do it well, understand the meaning of personal integrity, will integrate well into a team and above all learn willingly.
Fargoo's advice is good. I would suggest that you should sort out your target companies (don't forget independent maintenance companies) find out who's who, and write a short well-worded letter addressed by name to the head of Maintenance (use the correct title), not HR, with a factual CV on 1 side of A4. Mention the things you did well on during the course.
Use the letter to explain that you are looking for your 2 years experience.
Expect very little pay. But remain focussed on your goal....you need
2 years of practical maintenance experience on operating aircraft and completion of a basic training course approved in accordance with Annex IV (Part-147);
You've got the Basic Training Course under your belt. Almost anything is worth it if it gives you those 2 years. I would check out carefully the AMC and GM for more information about what "operating aircraft" really means.
I'm sure you are right. In the UK, at least, whether or not the certificate must accord exactly with the Appendix wording seems to depend on the idiosyncracies of the orgnaisation's CAA Surveyor. Some demand it, others don't.
But yours certainly evidences the Basic Training Course, which is what counts. If it was my certificate I would send a copy to the CAA to check that it is OK, noting that it does not strictly comply. You don't want some pedant in 2 years time telling you that it's not valid. But that's up to you.
Don't forget that without a licence you are applying for work as an unlicensed mechanic with good background knowledge and little or no experience. You have to convince the employer that you are keen to get your hands dirty, will do what you are told and do it well, understand the meaning of personal integrity, will integrate well into a team and above all learn willingly.
Fargoo's advice is good. I would suggest that you should sort out your target companies (don't forget independent maintenance companies) find out who's who, and write a short well-worded letter addressed by name to the head of Maintenance (use the correct title), not HR, with a factual CV on 1 side of A4. Mention the things you did well on during the course.
Use the letter to explain that you are looking for your 2 years experience.
Expect very little pay. But remain focussed on your goal....you need
2 years of practical maintenance experience on operating aircraft and completion of a basic training course approved in accordance with Annex IV (Part-147);
You've got the Basic Training Course under your belt. Almost anything is worth it if it gives you those 2 years. I would check out carefully the AMC and GM for more information about what "operating aircraft" really means.
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B1 license issuing authorties
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I want to know about EASA system on issuing b1 license
i have passed all modules 2 from u.k caa and rest with 147 approved school which is greece based so can i apply for uk caa and if they reject my application so what will be the next good option for me will you please tell me whch authorties are more prefrable
I want to know about EASA system on issuing b1 license
i have passed all modules 2 from u.k caa and rest with 147 approved school which is greece based so can i apply for uk caa and if they reject my application so what will be the next good option for me will you please tell me whch authorties are more prefrable
