A&P Courses
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From: aintsaying
AvTech exams in Riverside California. You can do everything there except they donot have an practical examiner in-house. they will hook u up with one of the local guys on the riverside airfield.
There was a place down in Forth worth texas who do everything in-house. I cannot remember the company name, that would be a better option.
Do a search under "FAA A&P Fast Track school".
aintsaying
There was a place down in Forth worth texas who do everything in-house. I cannot remember the company name, that would be a better option.
Do a search under "FAA A&P Fast Track school".
aintsaying
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From: AUSTRALIA
I did my A & P's at the American Airman School at the Francis.S.Gabreski Airport on Long Island,NY as well.
It is certainly not a school,but a facility for getting your A & P's quickly.
My advice to you is read all the theory books before you get there and you should be able to do all the theory exams in the one day.Then spend the next day doing the practical & oral prep,and then on the third day actually do your prac with the examiner.If you work on heavy jets currently,expect a rough time,but I am sure you will pass without too much hestitation.The bloke is a first rate kn0b,but just remember what you are there for.
A & Ps are really quite easy compared to most other exams I have done.And if I can pass them,then 99% of the industry can too.
If you want more info,then PM me.
It is certainly not a school,but a facility for getting your A & P's quickly.
My advice to you is read all the theory books before you get there and you should be able to do all the theory exams in the one day.Then spend the next day doing the practical & oral prep,and then on the third day actually do your prac with the examiner.If you work on heavy jets currently,expect a rough time,but I am sure you will pass without too much hestitation.The bloke is a first rate kn0b,but just remember what you are there for.
A & Ps are really quite easy compared to most other exams I have done.And if I can pass them,then 99% of the industry can too.
If you want more info,then PM me.
Last edited by Long Bay Mauler; 27th July 2007 at 08:59. Reason: more infomation
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From: In the Hangar & on the Line
Agree with Bugs - the academic side of the FAA A&P straight forward.
Much bigger emphasis on oral examination and practical examination.
I recommend these chaps... http://www.dsafly.com
BAe146??
P.S. Despite all the crap dug up in UKCAA/EASA Part 66 we have to
study for (and largely forget), why is there no oral exam??
Additionally, you can just observe everything! No need to
practically get your hands mucky??!!
What a joke!
Much bigger emphasis on oral examination and practical examination.
I recommend these chaps... http://www.dsafly.com
BAe146??
P.S. Despite all the crap dug up in UKCAA/EASA Part 66 we have to
study for (and largely forget), why is there no oral exam??
Additionally, you can just observe everything! No need to
practically get your hands mucky??!!
What a joke!
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From: Watford
One thing I do remember is that I overstudied and stayed too long at the school.
100,97 & 96% was very nice to get in the exams,but you only need 70 to get an A & P so I put in a lot of wasted effort.
Could not agree more with 146 - the oral sorts out the blaggers from the good guys.I failed my first oral & deservedly so,I thought I knew it all when I actually knew jack sh!t.
100,97 & 96% was very nice to get in the exams,but you only need 70 to get an A & P so I put in a lot of wasted effort.
Could not agree more with 146 - the oral sorts out the blaggers from the good guys.I failed my first oral & deservedly so,I thought I knew it all when I actually knew jack sh!t.
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From: Up North
Hi'
I also did my A&P at American Airman School on Long Island. (in 1996, though...)
Must say that I was wery disappointed, as I got there. Speaking to the owner Steve, on the phone, I was under the impression, that this was a school. NOT!! I specifically told him I was ICAO2-rated
on big jets, pressurized hulls and turbine engines and therefore I was looking for a FAA-transition course. That was not what I got!!
Nevertheless, it is a place for selfstudy, taking the tests by computer and the guy is around for practical info... He also directs you to a designated FAA examiner, for the oral test.
And they make some preety good Icetea's in the area, out there
Just remember to prepare yourself, before the trip overthere!!
AAA Get a verified track-record of all possible tasks carried out. Letter from employers stating work performed. As detailed as possible. Remember there is a req of min 30 mths of aircraftexperience.
BBB See the local FAA office on arrival USA. They have to approve you, before you can do any tests!! They will look at your track-records and employerdocuments. And apart from proffesional chit-chat, they will "interview" you on your experience. This is not the oral test, but to make them convinced, that you actually know aircrafts.
CCC Go to your selected testfacility. Read, read and read
It's not very difficult. Just a lot of questions. And you get all the answers that goes along with it
AND YES! Fabric, glue and wooden propellers are part of the pensum. But just read the questions/answers!!
And when you are sitting on your flight back home a week later, with the Temporary Airman Certificate in your pocket; It feels good
Good luck!
I also did my A&P at American Airman School on Long Island. (in 1996, though...)
Must say that I was wery disappointed, as I got there. Speaking to the owner Steve, on the phone, I was under the impression, that this was a school. NOT!! I specifically told him I was ICAO2-rated
on big jets, pressurized hulls and turbine engines and therefore I was looking for a FAA-transition course. That was not what I got!!Nevertheless, it is a place for selfstudy, taking the tests by computer and the guy is around for practical info... He also directs you to a designated FAA examiner, for the oral test.
And they make some preety good Icetea's in the area, out there
Just remember to prepare yourself, before the trip overthere!!
AAA Get a verified track-record of all possible tasks carried out. Letter from employers stating work performed. As detailed as possible. Remember there is a req of min 30 mths of aircraftexperience.
BBB See the local FAA office on arrival USA. They have to approve you, before you can do any tests!! They will look at your track-records and employerdocuments. And apart from proffesional chit-chat, they will "interview" you on your experience. This is not the oral test, but to make them convinced, that you actually know aircrafts.
CCC Go to your selected testfacility. Read, read and read
It's not very difficult. Just a lot of questions. And you get all the answers that goes along with it AND YES! Fabric, glue and wooden propellers are part of the pensum. But just read the questions/answers!!And when you are sitting on your flight back home a week later, with the Temporary Airman Certificate in your pocket; It feels good
Good luck!
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From: Balmullo,Scotland
The exams that were done at acme were in an independant establishment and were also done on computer so your implication of wrong doing are totally unfounded, the real reason for closure was financial.
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From: Watford
Yes I did the multi choice at an independent computer centre & the oral & practical was done at an independent maintenance facility at FW airfield.
Fact was ACME briefed you on exactly what(very,very easy)tasks to expect.
I took mine alongside a Philipino who worked in Saudi Arabia.He couldn't read a micrometer to save his life.
When he left he still couldn't,but he had an A & P ticket.
I'm not having a go at ACME,I got what I wanted out of them.
They didn't exactly enhance the reputation of the A&P certificate around the world though.
Fact was ACME briefed you on exactly what(very,very easy)tasks to expect.
I took mine alongside a Philipino who worked in Saudi Arabia.He couldn't read a micrometer to save his life.
When he left he still couldn't,but he had an A & P ticket.
I'm not having a go at ACME,I got what I wanted out of them.
They didn't exactly enhance the reputation of the A&P certificate around the world though.
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From: planet earth
Well hello SpannersatVS, been asleep have we? Not heard from you for a long time. Do you posses a Apply & Pass certificate, as you seem to be a know it all!!!!! Anyway I have a question for you. When you start a "A" check on the B744 (yes I do believe you know these aircraft), can all 4 engines be worked on by the same person for critical tasks, ie oil filter replacements? Just curious thats all. I am sure your aware that you cannot do this on Twins.
Thanks for the info and please keep posting.
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From: In the Hangar & on the Line
Any Licenced Mech, Tech or Engineer undertaking certification of aircraft maintenance assumes some kind of responsibility. Most of us are fully aware that the FAA FAR 65 A&P certificate is not the most difficult AML
to achieve. However, I refuse to be grouped in the know-it-all description.
For further info, I've worked with some superb A&P lads and lasses over the years yet increasingly, I am finding more and more incapable EASA 66 AML holders, certainly from the continent.
Maybe keep the piss taking a bit friendlier?? Don't be bitchy like some of the 'Nigels'
Kind regards
BAe146???
to achieve. However, I refuse to be grouped in the know-it-all description.
For further info, I've worked with some superb A&P lads and lasses over the years yet increasingly, I am finding more and more incapable EASA 66 AML holders, certainly from the continent.
Maybe keep the piss taking a bit friendlier?? Don't be bitchy like some of the 'Nigels'
Kind regards
BAe146???
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From: Slough
You better get down the hangar & do some o/t, as you know we don't do all four engines, same theory as twins. I assume safety is the reason & not that we'd be overworked doing all 4!!! Worked "big twins" in my last job so understand the old ETOPS stuff. How's life on the line, still working hard
Never seen the need for an A & P, served as "man & boy" at a certain big airline in the UK until the lure of VS (& payoff from last job) was too much to resist.
Never seen the need for an A & P, served as "man & boy" at a certain big airline in the UK until the lure of VS (& payoff from last job) was too much to resist.
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From: Nearby
I don't know if the rules have changed or not (don't work there any more), but a few years ago at a certain 'Big Airline' you could do a critical task on all 4 engines.
This was once brought up at a safety meeting and the waffle from the front was that it was different to doing it on an ETOPS twin.
It was then pointed out that if it had been done wrong on the first engine, the chances are the next three would be wrong also.
More waffle followed by a change of subject
This was once brought up at a safety meeting and the waffle from the front was that it was different to doing it on an ETOPS twin.
It was then pointed out that if it had been done wrong on the first engine, the chances are the next three would be wrong also.
More waffle followed by a change of subject
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From: prague
WHY, Would You Want an A&P
of all the accreditation that most companies discredit globally the A&P license is top of the hit list. How substantial a qualification can it be if you can buy it for so little and so quickly, what license has been so fraught with cheating they recall hundreds at a time, what license actually has all the test questions avail to make it fair for all?Want to be considered a car mechanic get an A&P lic, want to be considered an aircraft engineer get any other license. Want to strut your stuff and prove you know your kit,
successfully acquire and maintain an Aussie lic.
