B1 or B2 LAE Whats the Diff
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From: OZ
B1 or B2 LAE Whats the Diff
A quick question for those in the JAA system ?
What is the different in limitations of Authorisation between a B1 and a B2 Mechanical licence?
The reason I ask, A new aircraft type of European construction is about to be introduced to our fleet and a preview of the training schedule would indicate the training for Mechanical is to be B1 training only.
With a B1 cat licence/training :-
Can you certify for structural repairs?
Certify for structure inspections?
Carry out/certify an Engine run ?
How much avionic over lap for either B1 or B2 Cat?
etc etc
Any links would be appreciated
What is the different in limitations of Authorisation between a B1 and a B2 Mechanical licence?
The reason I ask, A new aircraft type of European construction is about to be introduced to our fleet and a preview of the training schedule would indicate the training for Mechanical is to be B1 training only.
With a B1 cat licence/training :-
Can you certify for structural repairs?
Certify for structure inspections?
Carry out/certify an Engine run ?
How much avionic over lap for either B1 or B2 Cat?
etc etc
Any links would be appreciated
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From: The Sandpit
There isn't really any such thing as a B2 mechanical!!??
B1 is mechanical. "Roughly" equivalent to the old A&C
B2 is avionic. "Roughly" equivalent to the old X&R
There is now a crossover/overlap and a FULL B1 has FULL electrical certification rights.
A FULL B1 course SHOULD therefore be the equivalent of the old A&C but will include the electrical portion of the old X&R course (more or less)
A B1 can certify for structural repairs, inspections, EGR, just as any other mechanical licence provided the work is carried out IAW the correct relevant data.
However ALL this information can be found on the CAA web site.
B1 is mechanical. "Roughly" equivalent to the old A&C
B2 is avionic. "Roughly" equivalent to the old X&R
There is now a crossover/overlap and a FULL B1 has FULL electrical certification rights.
A FULL B1 course SHOULD therefore be the equivalent of the old A&C but will include the electrical portion of the old X&R course (more or less)
A B1 can certify for structural repairs, inspections, EGR, just as any other mechanical licence provided the work is carried out IAW the correct relevant data.
However ALL this information can be found on the CAA web site.
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From: farrrr east
A full B1 or B2 can only sign for what there company Authorisation will allow them to sign for, based on what types and limitations are on there EASA licence. This dosn't mean they can actually do the job, but they can or may sign for it.
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From: farrrr east
In a brief answer NO, a recent work college had to do all the JAR B1 modules and redo the aircraft type courses to JAR/EASA B1 standard and complete a work schedule for a period of time working under JAR/EASA for a UK B1.
Try looking at www.airmech.co.uk as this apears there regular...
But I am to tempted to post the conversion file here>>>>>
Try looking at www.airmech.co.uk as this apears there regular...
But I am to tempted to post the conversion file here>>>>>
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From: OZ
Thank you all for your input. Its a little clearer now
You are correct I am working down under and have seen VACBE training before and was told this was B1 training. My opinion of it that it was little more than a Familiarization course..Complete crap and fail to understand how its an approved course under the JAA/EASA system but that is another topic....
Back onto the topic..
When this Airbus training starts they plan on putting the Mechanical thru B1 and the Avionic on B1 and B2. I am not understanding the need for this..Any suggestions?
IAW we have been locked out of the European market mainly due to our regulating authority sitting on its hands for so long and the other due to Europe’s protectionist trade policies not aimed at us antipodeans but we got caught up in it.
Anyone got a link to the CAA site that will steer me straight to link regarding coverage authorising privileges etc??
You are correct I am working down under and have seen VACBE training before and was told this was B1 training. My opinion of it that it was little more than a Familiarization course..Complete crap and fail to understand how its an approved course under the JAA/EASA system but that is another topic....
Back onto the topic..
When this Airbus training starts they plan on putting the Mechanical thru B1 and the Avionic on B1 and B2. I am not understanding the need for this..Any suggestions?
IAW we have been locked out of the European market mainly due to our regulating authority sitting on its hands for so long and the other due to Europe’s protectionist trade policies not aimed at us antipodeans but we got caught up in it.
Anyone got a link to the CAA site that will steer me straight to link regarding coverage authorising privileges etc??
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From: Stockholm Sweden
The type course for B1 and B2 are very similar. In fact our B1 type course for B777 includes the whole of the B2 course, and a little more. But having passed the course, unless you have a B2 licence you can only get a B1 approval.
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From: The Sandpit
Bolty,
The B1 will do a course which includes electrics. The B2 will do his avionics course. BUT, because the B1 course includes electrics it has effectively been removed from the B2 syllabus. Therefore for a B2 to get FULL cover on the relevant types he needs to do B1 and B2 courses. What will probably not be included is the detail of the engine more just the interface.
IAW,
Aussie LAMEs are recognised in Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, among others. There is a cross recognition problem for lots of national licences. And to top it all MOST western NAA's will not recognise the others. So.....EASA to FAA do the exams; CASA to EASA do the exams EASA to CASA exams, ad infinitum. If I wanted to work in Aus, the States, etc I would have to do exams in each case.
The B1 will do a course which includes electrics. The B2 will do his avionics course. BUT, because the B1 course includes electrics it has effectively been removed from the B2 syllabus. Therefore for a B2 to get FULL cover on the relevant types he needs to do B1 and B2 courses. What will probably not be included is the detail of the engine more just the interface.
IAW,
Aussie LAMEs are recognised in Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, among others. There is a cross recognition problem for lots of national licences. And to top it all MOST western NAA's will not recognise the others. So.....EASA to FAA do the exams; CASA to EASA do the exams EASA to CASA exams, ad infinitum. If I wanted to work in Aus, the States, etc I would have to do exams in each case.
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