Bill Hamilton gives REX 6 months
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What is Bill Hamiltons history?
Perhaps Private Lic?
I thought we were all in the industry because we all like Airplanes??????????????????
Seems a shame , Why is it any of his concerns anyway???
Answer me William!!!!!!
Perhaps Private Lic?
I thought we were all in the industry because we all like Airplanes??????????????????
Seems a shame , Why is it any of his concerns anyway???
Answer me William!!!!!!
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Dogimed - not misquoted. His own words, out of his own mouth, using his own voice on the radio and yes, I agree that Bill Hamilton has done a great deal to further the cause of GA especially where CASA is concerned but all I was saying was give a new airline a go. If someone seemingly in authority bags it from day one then the people who pay good money to fly are not going to support it and without the paying public there is no airline. Be positive. Help the people with the guts to try something a chance.
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What about if I said "I think George is a jerk for giving away his favorite car to Janine"
And you heard "I think George is a jerk"
Yes, it was out of my mouth, and misquoted? yes..
Just an example....
Dog
And you heard "I think George is a jerk"
Yes, it was out of my mouth, and misquoted? yes..
Just an example....
Dog
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JULIET WHISKEY, Mr Hamilton would probably have more hours than all those who have responded to this topic added together.
Including many hours in command of heavy jet aircraft. People may not agree with his views but he has a wealth of experience.
Including many hours in command of heavy jet aircraft. People may not agree with his views but he has a wealth of experience.
Chanel 7 new had an article on REX starting up the other night. Good PR untill they followed it with a report on the Saab with a frozen stall warning almost crashing on landing.
Not suprising, but sad, to see reporters going true to form and looking for cheap drama.
Lets hope this doesn't help Mr Hamiltons prediction come true.
Not suprising, but sad, to see reporters going true to form and looking for cheap drama.
Lets hope this doesn't help Mr Hamiltons prediction come true.
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Juliet Whisky, Bill Hamilton 23,000 hours accident free UK CPL/IR endorsed to B707/720
Australian ATPL endorsed to Command B747 all models command B767 all models and a wide range of smaller aircraft
N.Z. ATPL endorsed to B767 and B747-400 and smaller aircraft
US FAA CPL Multi/Land?Instrument endorsed to B707/720
Yes Bill is a private pilot as well.
Australian ATPL endorsed to Command B747 all models command B767 all models and a wide range of smaller aircraft
N.Z. ATPL endorsed to B767 and B747-400 and smaller aircraft
US FAA CPL Multi/Land?Instrument endorsed to B707/720
Yes Bill is a private pilot as well.
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LIGHTEN UP PEOPLE
courier Why do Australians fear competition??
People are always quick to be cynical of things before its development.
Who is to judge, and what insight do they have of whats to become of tomorrow???
...... GEE if i had such insight, i would be predicting myself crossing paths with some European babe, 6pack accompanied with all the extras, in the not too distant future...
I think good luck to them, and instead of supporting the growth of an industry, we remain pessimistic.....
People are always quick to be cynical of things before its development.
Who is to judge, and what insight do they have of whats to become of tomorrow???
...... GEE if i had such insight, i would be predicting myself crossing paths with some European babe, 6pack accompanied with all the extras, in the not too distant future...
I think good luck to them, and instead of supporting the growth of an industry, we remain pessimistic.....
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Bill Hamilton would like to see rex fail but I think hundreds of rex employees wont forget what he has done to them.
I heard a rumour today that the major share holder in rex is SQ, can anyone confirm this?
I heard a rumour today that the major share holder in rex is SQ, can anyone confirm this?
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Bill Hamilton probably did not mean to do what he did. But AOPA has no business commenting on the financial viability of startups.
Yes Bill has 50 squillion hours, it shows. Perhaps it is time he moved to a sunny place near Hervey Bay!!!
Yes Bill has 50 squillion hours, it shows. Perhaps it is time he moved to a sunny place near Hervey Bay!!!
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"T"
Part of the ATPL syllabus / examination,
QUESTION 1
-Greater than 20,000hrs you may excercise your privellidge to be Arrogant-?
A YES
B NO
C ONLY UNDER THE INFLUENCE
D ONLY LESS THAN 20,000HRS
CORRECT ANSWER
A
Part of the ATPL syllabus / examination,
QUESTION 1
-Greater than 20,000hrs you may excercise your privellidge to be Arrogant-?
A YES
B NO
C ONLY UNDER THE INFLUENCE
D ONLY LESS THAN 20,000HRS
CORRECT ANSWER
A
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Hmmm it is great see all the experts giving their positive advice and constructive input here, on what Bill H did or didn’t say. We will have to look you successful people up when we need some positive influence. It is nice to see such great support for one another…..
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Hmmmm
Outback Pilot
Over time, this forum has a pretty good record at sussing out carpetbaggers, their attendants and revealing the strolling Naked Emperors that are over represented in this industry.
The susser outers have come from all manner of backgrounds.
T
So, Mr Hamilton has the qualifications and hours that one would expect of a person of his age and employment record.
They do not on their own confer any "special insights" on areas beyond that gained in the manner of that employment. Line or even management pilots are not necesarily trained nor have any contact or input with the actual running and financial management of the airline as an entity beyond the unit for which they are responsible. Their part of ship is to operate the equipment according to and in the manner required by the company. The skills and mind sets required to do this effectively, with perhaps the exception of discipline and professional qualifications relevant to each, are almost the opposite to that required in the commercial environment.
One requires operation within a very rigid framework defined by the Laws of Physics the other by the the ultra flexible, malleable and mysterious Laws of Human Behaviour. One runs on rails the other is a train smash.
It is unfortunate that the (and I hate this word) lay people out there attribute omniscience in ALL aviation matters to pilots.
"My friends mate Capt X works for XYZ and he says that ABC is whatever" becomes "ABC IS whatever".
Or after reading about the collapse of or accident involving ABC you'll hear "lets ask Joe he's a (Private) pilot he'll know" and that becomes the END of it
Pilots are entitled to opinions but outside the bounds of their professional experience that is ALL that they are.
Whilst I hold an opinion similar to and agree with him in this matter, it is only my personal opinion and will only be given as much weight as the recipient applies to it in the light of their perception of my qualifications or lack of.
No one here doubts that Mr Hamilton is hard working and sincerely committed to his cause.
However, to the public, when you link
"B747 Capt", Wow!........................ so what, he certainly should be by now if he has been flying for his company for that long
with.
AOPA, yup heard about them in the media..................oh they are the mob who look after Aircaft Operators and Pilots. (BTW QF are an operator are they a member???)
with
leading aviation industry expert, OK.....................what can I say, so am I in my area of "Oz aviation trivia"
?
with
"technical director" Heck! he can probably tune a VCR....................... those two words linked just on their own invoke omniscience, but in what area?
They think they've got a full blown expert in whatever he is talking about on their hands.
Real professionals, whilst in the presence or earshot of the lay person, are very very careful in their utterences of personal opinion of matters outside of their direct knowledge and experience, lest they be misconstrued and attributed to them and damage their credibility in matters about which they have.
It's called credibility.
Outback Pilot
Over time, this forum has a pretty good record at sussing out carpetbaggers, their attendants and revealing the strolling Naked Emperors that are over represented in this industry.
The susser outers have come from all manner of backgrounds.
T
So, Mr Hamilton has the qualifications and hours that one would expect of a person of his age and employment record.
They do not on their own confer any "special insights" on areas beyond that gained in the manner of that employment. Line or even management pilots are not necesarily trained nor have any contact or input with the actual running and financial management of the airline as an entity beyond the unit for which they are responsible. Their part of ship is to operate the equipment according to and in the manner required by the company. The skills and mind sets required to do this effectively, with perhaps the exception of discipline and professional qualifications relevant to each, are almost the opposite to that required in the commercial environment.
One requires operation within a very rigid framework defined by the Laws of Physics the other by the the ultra flexible, malleable and mysterious Laws of Human Behaviour. One runs on rails the other is a train smash.
It is unfortunate that the (and I hate this word) lay people out there attribute omniscience in ALL aviation matters to pilots.
"My friends mate Capt X works for XYZ and he says that ABC is whatever" becomes "ABC IS whatever".
Or after reading about the collapse of or accident involving ABC you'll hear "lets ask Joe he's a (Private) pilot he'll know
" and that becomes the END of itPilots are entitled to opinions but outside the bounds of their professional experience that is ALL that they are.
Whilst I hold an opinion similar to and agree with him in this matter, it is only my personal opinion and will only be given as much weight as the recipient applies to it in the light of their perception of my qualifications or lack of.
No one here doubts that Mr Hamilton is hard working and sincerely committed to his cause.
However, to the public, when you link
"B747 Capt", Wow!........................ so what, he certainly should be by now if he has been flying for his company for that long
with.
AOPA, yup heard about them in the media..................oh they are the mob who look after Aircaft Operators and Pilots. (BTW QF are an operator are they a member???)
with
leading aviation industry expert, OK.....................what can I say, so am I in my area of "Oz aviation trivia"
?with
"technical director" Heck! he can probably tune a VCR....................... those two words linked just on their own invoke omniscience, but in what area?
They think they've got a full blown expert in whatever he is talking about on their hands.
Real professionals, whilst in the presence or earshot of the lay person, are very very careful in their utterences of personal opinion of matters outside of their direct knowledge and experience, lest they be misconstrued and attributed to them and damage their credibility in matters about which they have.
It's called credibility.
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The following is posted on behalf of Mr Andrew Kerans
All. At the risk of attracting friendly, unfriendly and random fire (nothing much positive on here) I will have my 2c worth.
Bill Hamilton was not wishing doom and gloom on REX. Those pilots are our members, Bill knows that and works hard looking after their interests. He was simply stating that given the cost of landings, en route, insurance, regulation and compliance operations like REX face an uphill battle.
Now what this has done is prompted AOPA interest in supporting regional thin route airlines. We will be discussing it at out Board meeting this weekend. Perhaps one option is the big carriers (Q) paying a Universal Service fee to support thinner or non-profitable routes to ensure that all Australians have access to reasonably priced air travel. Bloody hell, we pay to enhance the property value of Sydney siders, why not scrap that and pay to keep small airlines flying!!!
Anyway, I will be doing my bit to support REX, I will lobby for them and fly with them whenever I can. What about you???
Positive suggestions welcome.
Andrew Kerans
AOPA Director
Bill Hamilton was not wishing doom and gloom on REX. Those pilots are our members, Bill knows that and works hard looking after their interests. He was simply stating that given the cost of landings, en route, insurance, regulation and compliance operations like REX face an uphill battle.
Now what this has done is prompted AOPA interest in supporting regional thin route airlines. We will be discussing it at out Board meeting this weekend. Perhaps one option is the big carriers (Q) paying a Universal Service fee to support thinner or non-profitable routes to ensure that all Australians have access to reasonably priced air travel. Bloody hell, we pay to enhance the property value of Sydney siders, why not scrap that and pay to keep small airlines flying!!!
Anyway, I will be doing my bit to support REX, I will lobby for them and fly with them whenever I can. What about you???
Positive suggestions welcome.
Andrew Kerans
AOPA Director