Dogimed - not misquoted. His own words, out of his own mouth, using his own voice on the radio and yes, I agree that Bill Hamilton has done a great deal to further the cause of GA especially where CASA is concerned but all I was saying was give a new airline a go. If someone seemingly in authority bags it from day one then the people who pay good money to fly are not going to support it and without the paying public there is no airline. Be positive. Help the people with the guts to try something a chance.