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I've heard a rumour the Flight West has been sold and it will operate five F100s and three Brasilias. Its all tied in with AN Mark II. Can anyone shed more light on this rumour?
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If FWA are to purchase another 3 F100's they should get a good deal with many Airlines in the US parking their F100's. Currently you can purchase 3 F100's for the price of 1 ERJ/CRJ. The F100 would be ideal for the routes the Kendell CRJ's operated on. They also have business class. FWA could be just like the old Eastwest if someone really gave it a go.
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This is my first post, so go easy, as I only have a theory...not rumour.
Since QF are chasing dominance of the Australian market, this could be a possibility-I don't know.
Since "Mac air" is an alliance partner with Qantas for it's western network would it make sense that Mac air would take on the old Flight West machines and deploy them on their network. When you think about it, Mac air currently do the fly in, fly out ops in Nth West Qld. They have an RPT service operating also. They have the agents already and advertising in place throughout the states regional towns. They could operate an F100 out to a couple of the mines on crew change overs, and possibly on BNE-ISA and TSV-ISA RPT services, to relieve the QF LINK BAe 146's to other services.
The Qld government are bank rolling a Flight West F28 currently on the couple of mine runs it used to have the contract for. That wont last for too much longer.
Qantas would have the whole of Qld stitched up pretty well much if this happened.
As I said, it's just a suggestion to put in peoples mind's, and I have no idea if this is a realistic possibility.
Since QF are chasing dominance of the Australian market, this could be a possibility-I don't know.
Since "Mac air" is an alliance partner with Qantas for it's western network would it make sense that Mac air would take on the old Flight West machines and deploy them on their network. When you think about it, Mac air currently do the fly in, fly out ops in Nth West Qld. They have an RPT service operating also. They have the agents already and advertising in place throughout the states regional towns. They could operate an F100 out to a couple of the mines on crew change overs, and possibly on BNE-ISA and TSV-ISA RPT services, to relieve the QF LINK BAe 146's to other services.
The Qld government are bank rolling a Flight West F28 currently on the couple of mine runs it used to have the contract for. That wont last for too much longer.
Qantas would have the whole of Qld stitched up pretty well much if this happened.
As I said, it's just a suggestion to put in peoples mind's, and I have no idea if this is a realistic possibility.
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It would appear from today's news about AN MK 2 that any deal with Flight West and AN MK 2 is a big "IF".
Mac air already have the Saab 340 so they would not need the EMB 120's that Flight West operate. They may have a use for the F100's for their minning runs and perharps for use somewhere within the Qantas network.
What company is selling the Flight West aircraft, Aeromil, who do Aeromil own, Susnhine Express, who do Sunshine Express now have an alliance with, Qantas. So what about this. The Sunshine Express and Flight West operations are merged into one operation and continue to operate with Qantas. I'm sure Qantas could make good use of the F100's and the EMB 120's. The F100's could return to NFI and perharps routes in North QLD and the NT. The EMB 120's could be used to replace the B1900s (The EMB 120 have very similar operating costs to the 1900's and are cheaper than the Dash 8)
Mac air already have the Saab 340 so they would not need the EMB 120's that Flight West operate. They may have a use for the F100's for their minning runs and perharps for use somewhere within the Qantas network.
What company is selling the Flight West aircraft, Aeromil, who do Aeromil own, Susnhine Express, who do Sunshine Express now have an alliance with, Qantas. So what about this. The Sunshine Express and Flight West operations are merged into one operation and continue to operate with Qantas. I'm sure Qantas could make good use of the F100's and the EMB 120's. The F100's could return to NFI and perharps routes in North QLD and the NT. The EMB 120's could be used to replace the B1900s (The EMB 120 have very similar operating costs to the 1900's and are cheaper than the Dash 8)
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Torres....I do believe that's the most intelligent statement you have ever made 
BTW....Exactly which of the aforementioned scenarios do you believe will get the nod
BTW....Exactly which of the aforementioned scenarios do you believe will get the nod
nasa I have no idea - haven't spoken to the Townsville refueller as Ace suggests! 
I suspect the rumours in this thread may not be very accurate..... However you are, geographically at least, closer to one of the hopeful players.
But I've been wrong before.....
Analyse the threads, nasa:
5 x F-100's? On what routes considering the emphasis must initially be in Queensland due to the Government guarantees and the Western Queensland routes are now gone. There's hardly revenue and a route structure to support two F-100's - let alone five!
Transfer the AOC? Can't be done. It is irrevocably tied to the YC corporate entity. Buy the shares, get the AOC - expect a CASA audit!
******? I don't think so.
AN Mk II? There are innumerable reasons equity or commercial involvement with AN Mk II won't happen at present, not the least being the present inadequacies of the AN reservations system, lack of AN terminal and ground handling staff and the unsure future of AN Mk II.
Who ever acquires YC (if anyone does) has a far greater task ahead of them than I did in that seventeen days in 1987! And will need deep pockets.....
But we live in very interesting times....
[ 28 October 2001: Message edited by: Torres ]
I suspect the rumours in this thread may not be very accurate..... However you are, geographically at least, closer to one of the hopeful players.
But I've been wrong before.....
Analyse the threads, nasa:
5 x F-100's? On what routes considering the emphasis must initially be in Queensland due to the Government guarantees and the Western Queensland routes are now gone. There's hardly revenue and a route structure to support two F-100's - let alone five!
Transfer the AOC? Can't be done. It is irrevocably tied to the YC corporate entity. Buy the shares, get the AOC - expect a CASA audit!
******? I don't think so.
AN Mk II? There are innumerable reasons equity or commercial involvement with AN Mk II won't happen at present, not the least being the present inadequacies of the AN reservations system, lack of AN terminal and ground handling staff and the unsure future of AN Mk II.
Who ever acquires YC (if anyone does) has a far greater task ahead of them than I did in that seventeen days in 1987! And will need deep pockets.....
But we live in very interesting times....
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Today the SY refueller told me a rumour that he had heard from one of the Metro night freight pilots last night, this pilot had heard from the ML refueller, who had just be told by the B727 freighter from HB that the HB refueller's brothers cousin who is the refueller in AD, this refueller had heard from a Pelair Westwind pilot who had flown in from DN, this pilot had heard from the DN refueller who had heard from his wife's 2nd cousin who is the refueller at PH, the PH refueller had heard from a QF pilot who had flown in from BN a rumour that he had heard from the BN refuellers, the BN refuellers had told him that they had heard from the 727 freighter pilots that had flown in from TL a few night ago that the "TL refueller" was going to purchase Flight West.
If he does purchase Flight West he plans to make it a "Self Serve" with regard to fuel. He was quoted has saying "If they (pilots)can refuel aircraft in GA, they can refuel the Bras and the Fokkers".
If he does purchase Flight West he plans to make it a "Self Serve" with regard to fuel. He was quoted has saying "If they (pilots)can refuel aircraft in GA, they can refuel the Bras and the Fokkers".
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Your idea certainly has merit as Air New Guinea needs newer aircraft and the extra capacity of the F100's would be helpful as they are now carrying all QF's pax as well as their own. GB
Your idea certainly has merit as Air New Guinea needs newer aircraft and the extra capacity of the F100's would be helpful as they are now carrying all QF's pax as well as their own. GB
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Two Gladstone flights per day resumed on November 14th. Forward bookings looking promising, and Gladstone pax looking forward to competition once again.
Further expansion depends on FWA sale which I guess depends heavily on ANMK2 situation.
Further expansion depends on FWA sale which I guess depends heavily on ANMK2 situation.
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Just to give you more info regarding that, EWB is heading to BNE every Sat morning from TSV at 6.30am, and returning Sun arvo around 15.30.
It's heading to BNE for maintenence every weekend when it's not being used on the mine contracts.
The administrators are selling seats on it to help pay for the ferry costs up and back basically. It is NOT a permanent run. But it makes sense, why send a 63 seater down and back empty?
It's heading to BNE for maintenence every weekend when it's not being used on the mine contracts.
The administrators are selling seats on it to help pay for the ferry costs up and back basically. It is NOT a permanent run. But it makes sense, why send a 63 seater down and back empty?
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VB,
Your times are almost right! As it's an F28 op, it can't be a *permanent* run (whatever that means these days) by definition. FW have scheduled the last F28 RPT flight in Oz for Saturday 30/3/2002 from TSV to BNE... is that long enough for you?
Question: who was in the left hand seat for the last F27 RPT in Oz?
Your times are almost right! As it's an F28 op, it can't be a *permanent* run (whatever that means these days) by definition. FW have scheduled the last F28 RPT flight in Oz for Saturday 30/3/2002 from TSV to BNE... is that long enough for you?
Question: who was in the left hand seat for the last F27 RPT in Oz?
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Last F27 RPT driver in Oz?
Likes red wine, golf and probably said "bug er" after that last landing.
Too much time on your hands 32bits?
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Likes red wine, golf and probably said "bug er" after that last landing.
Too much time on your hands 32bits?
[ 21 November 2001: Message edited by: dirtylittlefokker ]
