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Old 18th Sep 2014, 11:18
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Iphone OS upgrade

just been asked by a work colleague.

How do you upgrade an IPhone which only has 5gb when it says it needs 4.7gb of storage to do it?

And I might add I have just blocked our apple network from the download due to 8 Ipads on the network which are currently trying to do the same thing.

They are now hanging off a hot spot downloading there 1.8Gb each extremely slowly. Well it went from 18 hours on ours to 48hous on the hotspot.
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ios 8 upgrade

iOS 8 ?Update Cannot be Installed Because it Requires GB of Storage?? Here?s How To Install It Anyway | OSXDaily

I used this guide and did it through itunes with no problems
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I looked at the (notalotof) spare space on my two iThings, looked at the added space it occupies, and decided I don't need it anyway.
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If you attach your i-whatever to a pc/mac with up to date itunes on it, much less space is required. Do the whole update via itunes.
As my i-whatever has too little space, due to family & holiday piccies I have no choice.
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They are now hanging off a hot spot downloading there 1.8Gb each extremely slowly. Well it went from 18 hours on ours to 48hous on the hotspot.
As Old Speckled Aircrew said, use iTunes.

iTunes simply does a backup/restore and images the new iOS 8 into the phone.

I looked at the (notalotof) spare space on my two iThings, looked at the added space it occupies, and decided I don't need it anyway.
You took the wrong approach.

It overwrites the old operating system, therefore the space question is irrelevant !

The space question only applies if you're doing a live upgrade instead of via iTunes.
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Any particular reason?
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Forget IOS 8 for a while.
Why ? Sounds awfully like someone has an unnecessary chip on their shoulder...

I've upgraded to iOS 8, no issues and am enjoying the new functionality.... there's lots of great stuff in there !

Third-party swipe keyboards are also quite fun ! Although the new standard built-in Apple QuickType keyboard with enhanced predictive text is likely to be good enough for me....
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iphone 4s & ios 8

Works perfectly well on my 4s
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Originally Posted by mixture
You took the wrong approach.

It overwrites the old operating system, therefore the space question is irrelevant !

The space question only applies if you're doing a live upgrade instead of via iTunes.
The review I read (only one of many, I grant you) said the operating system for iOS8 is significantly larger than iOS7. My iThings are over 90% full of apps, music, stuff, etc. I've had the "not enough space" thing in the past, and a right pain it was. I don't need to go there.
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And I might add I have just blocked our apple network from the download due to 8 Ipads on the network which are currently trying to do the same thing.
Stick a Mac Mini in your rack and install OS X server with Caching Server. It's like WSUS but for iThing updates and, if you deploy them with a profile, apps.
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said the operating system for iOS8 is significantly larger than iOS7
Ahem, cough....






I rest my case.
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I don't have any resources for that booglebox.

They are lucky they get to attach to the network anyway. Its not core business them being attached so they are suffered more than supported.
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I think that artwork from mixture says iOS7 is 1.32GB and iOS8 is 1.78GB.

That's best part of half a gigabyte more, which I can't afford unless I lose some apps, some music, or some "stuff". I'll stay with iOS7, which does all I need it to.
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MJ: clearly you haven't read enough tales of the Bastard Operator from Hell... The solution is obvious.
1. Allow iPads to update to iOS 8, one at a time (explain it's because of solar flares or something)
2. Your network is slow the whole day
3. Boss's viewing of fantasy football team / online poker / pornography / youtubes of cats / world of warcraft is seriously disrupted
4. Boss comes running up, winded and sweating by the 7-yard sprint from his office: "Why is my network so slow?" MJ: "because we don't have an $800 Mac Mini running Caching Server to update the stupid iThings"
5. Close your eyes to protect them while boss shoves money in your face.
6. Take $200 and get a second-hand Mac Mini from eBay. Then go to the casino and put the rest on black.
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His reaction would be to ban personal smart devices from the office and only allow company hardware.

I suffer the bloody things as it is, both apple and android.
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Originally Posted by Old Speckled Aircrew
Works perfectly well on my 4s
There are some features which need newer hardware. Airdrop needs at least a 5 and Apple Pay may well need a 6.
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Charlie Brooker knows what's what ....

The past few weeks haven’t been great for Apple. First they were implicated in the stolen celebrity nude photo disaster, which reminded everybody how easily clouds leak. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think the iPhone is generally marketed as a diabolical timewasting device with the potential to wreak a grotesque and devastating invasion of your personal privacy. They tend to focus more on all the cool colours it comes in.
Then they launched the horrible-looking Apple Watch, which does everything an iPhone can do, but more expensively and pointlessly, and on a slightly different part of your body. Only an unhealthily devoted Apple fanatic could bear to wear an Apple Watch, and even that poor notional idiot would have to keep putting their iPhone down in order to operate the damn thing. It’ll scarcely be used for telling the time, just as the iPhone is scarcely used for making calls. It’s not a watch. It’s a gaudy wristband aimed at raising awareness of Chinese factory conditions. Or a handy visual tag that helps con artists instantly identify gullible rich idiots in a crowd.
Apple also unveiled the all-new bigger iPhone 6, and the all-new even bigger-than-that iPhone 6 Plus, which is the size of the Isle of Man and aimed at people who literally have deep pockets. By releasing two differently sized rectangles, which in turn differ from its previous range of differently sized rectangles, Apple has selfishly exhausted the global supply of differently sized rectangles. From now on, all rectangles, no matter what context they appear in, will have to be the same size. Wars will be fought to decide which dimension becomes the standard. And when mankind finally settles on a compromise, Apple is going to start on ovals.
As part of the iPhone 6 publicity blitz, Tim Cook also announced every iTunes user in the world would be getting U2’s new album free of charge. It was downloaded automatically on to millions of users’ phones, like a sinister virus. Music is meant to be catchy – but not until you’ve heard it. The album, which I haven’t listened to yet, is terrible: even worse than their last one, which I didn’t listen to either. I don’t want to listen to any U2 albums in case I discover I like them, and have to violently reassess my own self-image. For the past five years, it’s been delightfully easy to ignore U2. Then Apple comes along and slings them under your nose like a bowl of bum soup you didn’t order. What do we have to do? Start lobbying Google for U2’s right to be forgotten?

Still: new watches, new rectangles, new music – these needn’t really affect you if you don’t want them to. But the other new development – the launch of iOS 8 – is impossible for iPhone users to ignore. It’s curious that we, the users, are supposed to look as if we are eagerly anticipating these operating system updates – a load of digital dogwork Apple nonchalantly drop into our laps on a regular basis.
Updates are awful. All you want to do is watch TV and rot in your own filth. Instead you spend the evening backing up your phone, downloading a gigantic file and sitting around while your phone undergoes an intense psychological makeover, at the end of which it may or may not function. Often, it takes an hour or more. Fiddly, time-consuming admin – it’s like having to change the water in a fish tank. I can’t be arsed: it’s why I don’t have an aquarium. I’d rather let the fish die.
But if I hold out, gradually nothing will work on my existing phone. They’ll freeze me out by degrees. Cut me out of the club. Plus I’ll miss out on great features such as slightly different icons and a terrifying new form of predictive text that precisely mimics the sensation of talking to an idiot who keeps finishing your sentences for you. (Either my thumbs have grown clumsier, or predictive text in general has grown a lot more aggressive recently. I can’t type anything without it continually popping up to blurt random words on my behalf – it’s like being in the Beastie Boys.)
Part of the problem is that smartphones are so horribly addictive, as moreish as smoking. The difference between smartphones and cigarettes is this: a cigarette robs 10 minutes from your lifespan, but at least has the decency to wait and withdraw all that time in bulk as you near the end of your life – whereas a smartphone steals your time in the present moment, by degrees. Five minutes here. Five minutes there. Then you look up and you’re 85 years old.
That little rectangular screen is so hypnotic, so omnipresent, I feel lost and sick the moment mine’s tied up doing something as uninterruptable as an update. While it sits there, blank, progress bar inching along at a snail’s pace, I glance at it nervously, like an owner watching his dog undergo an operation – not out of anything approaching sympathy, but the selfish concern that if it dies, I might not be able to check my email for five minutes. I suppose if I had an Apple Watch I could at least fiddle mindlessly with that instead while waiting for the phone to spring back into life. Come to think of it, that’s probably the Watch’s sole purpose. They should market it that way. Big winner.

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Charlie Brooker knows what's what ....
Not really, just a typical Guardian journalist having a rant about something he knows nothing about but writing in a style that his readers will like ....
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Where as you do know what your talking about most of the time but have an utterly ****e way of putting it across.

Hence more people will listen to the daft journo.
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Does anyone know how to stop iPad/iPhone from auto-downloading IOS updates.
Spending some time in the Falklands, it is an issue, as our internet there costs close to £100 a month for a monthly limit of about 5 Gb. Over that limit costs up to 10p/Mb (depending on exact package) (yes - that is £100 per Gb ), so an unasked for surprise update when you are close to the monthly limit could be VERY expensive.

Have looked online but every reference I can find just says "that's the way it is, you can't stop it except by switching wi-FI off or loading your device close to full so that it doesn't have room for the download"
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