Being set up to be sacked.
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erm, probably speaking out of term here but haven't you cracked the ultimate job?
full pay, no responsibilities and plenty of time for fishing
....you have bought a fishing rod haven't you?
nothing would peeve the enemy more than you turn up to meetings deeply suntanned, smiling and smelling faintly of last nights catch :-)
full pay, no responsibilities and plenty of time for fishing
....you have bought a fishing rod haven't you?
nothing would peeve the enemy more than you turn up to meetings deeply suntanned, smiling and smelling faintly of last nights catch :-)
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I am a magistrate
I am still suspended on full pay. They are seemingly still investigating things. Now in 10th month.
....you have bought a fishing rod haven't you?
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Quick update- I am still suspended on full pay- 11 months now. Still not heard anything from my employer.
I took a grievance to them and on third attempt they met with me and just listened- no questions, no statements, no testing of my evidence- nothing. My union colleague who attended with me stated that in his opinion it was not a formal grievance meeting in any format that he was aware of and did not comply with any form of law, guidance etc and was therefore not worth the effort attending. I have not heard from the employer since that meeting some 6 weeks ago. Then out of the blue - yesterday- I had an invite to attend a grievance appeal meeting called by my employer. BUT- I have not made any appeal as there has not been any reaction to the meeting for me to appeal.!! Madness.
I still await an 'expert' analysis of the computer hard drive- which I am led to understand has taken place- but I have not been given the chance to have the same done by myself- and this is where I need the possible help of my fellow Ppruners- Is there anyone out there who could (confidentially) look at the report - if it turns up- and give me an expert opinion on what is being said and to test the evidence given by the employers side against me?
I can send a PDF copy to anyone who can do this for me- but would need a report of some sort to enable me to test any statements made by them.
I do not have the report yet- and may not even get it- but am just asking ahead.
I will not be able to pay much for such a report as I am spent out- financially and emotionally and am looking for a favour from a friend to help me please.
e mail me or PM me from here if you can help or know someone who can.
Thanks in advance
Jimgriif
I took a grievance to them and on third attempt they met with me and just listened- no questions, no statements, no testing of my evidence- nothing. My union colleague who attended with me stated that in his opinion it was not a formal grievance meeting in any format that he was aware of and did not comply with any form of law, guidance etc and was therefore not worth the effort attending. I have not heard from the employer since that meeting some 6 weeks ago. Then out of the blue - yesterday- I had an invite to attend a grievance appeal meeting called by my employer. BUT- I have not made any appeal as there has not been any reaction to the meeting for me to appeal.!! Madness.
I still await an 'expert' analysis of the computer hard drive- which I am led to understand has taken place- but I have not been given the chance to have the same done by myself- and this is where I need the possible help of my fellow Ppruners- Is there anyone out there who could (confidentially) look at the report - if it turns up- and give me an expert opinion on what is being said and to test the evidence given by the employers side against me?
I can send a PDF copy to anyone who can do this for me- but would need a report of some sort to enable me to test any statements made by them.
I do not have the report yet- and may not even get it- but am just asking ahead.
I will not be able to pay much for such a report as I am spent out- financially and emotionally and am looking for a favour from a friend to help me please.
e mail me or PM me from here if you can help or know someone who can.
Thanks in advance
Jimgriif
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I still await an 'expert' analysis of the computer hard drive- which I am led to understand has taken place- but I have not been given the chance to have the same done by myself- and this is where I need the possible help of my fellow Ppruners- Is there anyone out there who could (confidentially) look at the report - if it turns up- and give me an expert opinion on what is being said and to test the evidence given by the employers side against me?
I can send a PDF copy to anyone who can do this for me- but would need a report of some sort to enable me to test any statements made by them.
I do not have the report yet- and may not even get it- but am just asking ahead.
I can send a PDF copy to anyone who can do this for me- but would need a report of some sort to enable me to test any statements made by them.
I do not have the report yet- and may not even get it- but am just asking ahead.
So let me get this straight.....
You want someone to write you a report on a report written by a third-party selected by your ex-employer. This report relating to an active and unresolved dispute between yourself and your employer, the circumstances of which we know nothing about, let alone having seen any of the IT side of it.
Yeah.... I can't possibly think where that plan could go wrong.
I'd be surprised if anyone worth their salt is willing to touch that one with a barge pole. Anyone who does agree will only be giving you a load of rubbish because they're merely proffering an opinion on an opinion on a topic they've only heard part of one side of a story of .... you might as well ask your dog to do that for you as the worthiness of the result won't be much different.
Sorry to rain on your parade, but just trying to put you in the "expert's shoes" so to speak.
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Thanks for the response- seriously-I know it sounds dodgy- but it's not something I can afford to do professionally and all I was looking for was someone with more knowledge than me to cast an eye on a report and see that it was sound in content- not on the subject- but on the methodology and presentation.
For all I know they could write a load of stuff that sounds good but worthless from an evidential point of view. I don't want anyone to take sides. I do understand completely where you are coming from.
For all I know they could write a load of stuff that sounds good but worthless from an evidential point of view. I don't want anyone to take sides. I do understand completely where you are coming from.
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I find it strange that your employer has the resources to "sideline" you on full pay for almost a year......Uet it's HR and Legal departments would appear to be staffed by incompetent half-wits.......
Do the board of directors actually know that a large sum of their cash has been squandered on what sounds like a personal vendetta.?
Meanwhile, someone is paying you to do your own thing....make the most of it!
Do the board of directors actually know that a large sum of their cash has been squandered on what sounds like a personal vendetta.?
Meanwhile, someone is paying you to do your own thing....make the most of it!
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I think what Jim is looking for is someone to cast their over over a report and report back "Yep, these guys know their stuff" or "Nope, these guys are feeding you a load of bull".
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Thanks PF- exactly- I don't want opinion on the content- just the methodology and the viability.
I have now read the report briefly- (93 pages) arrived at 13.10 today- and it seems clear (they provide evidence) that they have accessed my private e mail account and the private e mail account of my wife- which were nothing to do with work. I did have permission to access private e mail from my work kit. I think they may have just shot themselves in the foot.- My wife has nothing to do with my work and never calls there either- but details of her e mails sent from her private e mail account are included in the report.
I have now read the report briefly- (93 pages) arrived at 13.10 today- and it seems clear (they provide evidence) that they have accessed my private e mail account and the private e mail account of my wife- which were nothing to do with work. I did have permission to access private e mail from my work kit. I think they may have just shot themselves in the foot.- My wife has nothing to do with my work and never calls there either- but details of her e mails sent from her private e mail account are included in the report.
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How on earth did they access your wife's private emails? Surely they would be on her PC/Laptop?
Anyway, it is starting to sound time to get your union rep back on the case and starting talking about huge sums of money.
I too was "set up" back in 2004; mainly because I said what I saw and this did not suit the growing band of Flash Harrys who were slithering their way up the corporate ladder. They manoeuvred me into an imaginary job which they then made redundant. I had to fight with threats of an industrial tribunal and they capitulated with literally 15 minutes to go before the deadline for filing the complaint. They came up with 4 years salary and paid all my legal bills.
So, stick it to them. It sounds possible someone at work has a personal grudge and is perhaps using the company to stitch you up. Don't let them get away with it!
Anyway, it is starting to sound time to get your union rep back on the case and starting talking about huge sums of money.
I too was "set up" back in 2004; mainly because I said what I saw and this did not suit the growing band of Flash Harrys who were slithering their way up the corporate ladder. They manoeuvred me into an imaginary job which they then made redundant. I had to fight with threats of an industrial tribunal and they capitulated with literally 15 minutes to go before the deadline for filing the complaint. They came up with 4 years salary and paid all my legal bills.
So, stick it to them. It sounds possible someone at work has a personal grudge and is perhaps using the company to stitch you up. Don't let them get away with it!
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all I was looking for was someone with more knowledge than me to cast an eye on a report and see that it was sound in content- not on the subject- but on the methodology and presentation.
If they have accessed your private emails and your wife's private emails that is certainly unlawful and probably illegal.
You must involve Mr Plod to log the possibility of an illegal act. Get a case/report number from Mr Plod who is duty bound to investigate.
And put, and get, everything in writing. Proper typed stuff on paper. Good luck.
AO.
You must involve Mr Plod to log the possibility of an illegal act. Get a case/report number from Mr Plod who is duty bound to investigate.
And put, and get, everything in writing. Proper typed stuff on paper. Good luck.
AO.
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I got to meet a young detective constable who took lots of notes. I left a comprehensive sheet of info outlining in detail my concerns and I was told that the DC would speak to the 'boss' and get back to me. I made sure to note that I wanted to make a formal complaint.- Still waiting to hear.
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On a side note- I got notified last week (Thursday) that I was 'invited' to a grievance appeal meeting. I immediately (same day) replied by recorded delivery that I had not made an appeal as no result from the grievances had been received and could not have been as no formal grievance meeting had actually taken place. So how could I appeal? I asked for urgent confirmation
At 10pm on Monday eve I got an e mail that the meeting was to be a full blown grievance meeting! Set for 10am the next morning.
You couldn't make it up.
I did attend. 4 hour meeting.
At 10pm on Monday eve I got an e mail that the meeting was to be a full blown grievance meeting! Set for 10am the next morning.
You couldn't make it up.
I did attend. 4 hour meeting.
