Printer head question
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Printer head question
Every time I get ripped off for a few ml of ink for my printer cartridge I fume. I recently invested in a do-it-yourself refill kit which promises large numbers of refills, which seems to work fine.. .. .However someone told me the other day that while Epson printer cartridges can be refilled indefinitely, something in the Canon printer head means the cartridge can't be refilled more than a couple of times. Guess who's got a Canon? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="rolleyes.gif" /> . .. .Can anybody confirm or deny this?
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Used to use a Canon 4100 and refilled the cartridges many times. In the end though the print quality deteriorated as the print head began to expire.. .. .Now use an Epson photo 890 and understand that due to the software measuring ink quantity, this cannot be refilled as it will always show empty. Interesting to know if it can be done.. .. .R4R
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R, tried several times to refill Epson, never succeeded against the software.
BOAC...Office World ink by any chance? If you do not use the ink for a couple of days you need to run the nozzle cleaning several times...supports Office World again as you need a lot of ink while doing so...and eventually half a page prints and it stops again.
Presently using Dataline and that is not gving any trouble (so far
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BOAC...Office World ink by any chance? If you do not use the ink for a couple of days you need to run the nozzle cleaning several times...supports Office World again as you need a lot of ink while doing so...and eventually half a page prints and it stops again.
Presently using Dataline and that is not gving any trouble (so far
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Sorted! Found out the ink indication can be misleading and there was no ink in there (showing quarter full) so NO maintenance - and found cheap compatible cartridges in the process!
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Print Head
Might inflame the rest of you a little here but oh well.
Whenever you buy a new cartridge for your inkjet type printer you are essentially buying a whole new printer ! What an awsome idea ! In fact I do quite a bit of printing but only go through a cartridge once every 2 to 3 months at a cost of around 20 dollars a cartridge. Works for me, puts money in the pockets of the manufacturer where it belongs, avoids messy refill nonsense whos use results in a loss of revenue to the aforementioned manufacturer who in turn recoups that loss by dividing it into the purchase cost of the cartridges the rest of us buy. So if you are so cheap as to want to refill a cartridge over 20 times perhaps you ought to think about maybe a home toilet paper recycling machine or a urine distillery!! Be good , buy the real deal, you are costing me money !
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Slappy !!
Whenever you buy a new cartridge for your inkjet type printer you are essentially buying a whole new printer ! What an awsome idea ! In fact I do quite a bit of printing but only go through a cartridge once every 2 to 3 months at a cost of around 20 dollars a cartridge. Works for me, puts money in the pockets of the manufacturer where it belongs, avoids messy refill nonsense whos use results in a loss of revenue to the aforementioned manufacturer who in turn recoups that loss by dividing it into the purchase cost of the cartridges the rest of us buy. So if you are so cheap as to want to refill a cartridge over 20 times perhaps you ought to think about maybe a home toilet paper recycling machine or a urine distillery!! Be good , buy the real deal, you are costing me money !
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Slappy, I don't know what you are talking about here? If someone wants to save money because he/she need to print a bit more compared to your 5 pages / month, than a refill is the option if this is possible at all.
Also there are recycling ideas, most of them do not work at all, so a refill is also saving the environment....
Guess you need to rethink your attitude a bit!
And if one goes for a product which is not from the printer manufacturer, than so what? This is a free market and if I can buy a product for 50% of the original one and achieve the results as required, than so what?
Ever thought about people who replace a print cartridge once or even more often per month?
Also there are recycling ideas, most of them do not work at all, so a refill is also saving the environment....
Guess you need to rethink your attitude a bit!
And if one goes for a product which is not from the printer manufacturer, than so what? This is a free market and if I can buy a product for 50% of the original one and achieve the results as required, than so what?
Ever thought about people who replace a print cartridge once or even more often per month?
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Hello 310
Hello,
Hmm, as I suspected and alluded too in my previous post, your vitriolic, obviously defensive response, serves to support the unarguably correct determination that perhaps, for you , a urine distillery is perfectly in order.
All I am saying is that 20 dollars for what is essentially a new printer sans the carriage seems already to be quite an excellent deal, I find it hard to believe that one might present an argument against, furthermore I hint at the fact that this 20 dollar figure might have been arrived upon as a direct result of poor sales based on the refilling of existing cartridges, it would not be unreasonable to assume, that had this never taken place, the cost of Ink cartrifges today might not be 20 Dollars but instead be somewhat lower, with the conlusion, you might say, that in effect, while attempting to save some cents you have actually shot youself in the foot.
Now while you drive a car that isnt electric , or fly planes that burn 100LL or Jet A-1 and eat food exclusively wrapped in a biodegradeable polymer don't profess to lecture to me about the environmentally friendly justification of your REFILL of cartridges, you are insulting yourself.
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Hmm, as I suspected and alluded too in my previous post, your vitriolic, obviously defensive response, serves to support the unarguably correct determination that perhaps, for you , a urine distillery is perfectly in order.
All I am saying is that 20 dollars for what is essentially a new printer sans the carriage seems already to be quite an excellent deal, I find it hard to believe that one might present an argument against, furthermore I hint at the fact that this 20 dollar figure might have been arrived upon as a direct result of poor sales based on the refilling of existing cartridges, it would not be unreasonable to assume, that had this never taken place, the cost of Ink cartrifges today might not be 20 Dollars but instead be somewhat lower, with the conlusion, you might say, that in effect, while attempting to save some cents you have actually shot youself in the foot.
Now while you drive a car that isnt electric , or fly planes that burn 100LL or Jet A-1 and eat food exclusively wrapped in a biodegradeable polymer don't profess to lecture to me about the environmentally friendly justification of your REFILL of cartridges, you are insulting yourself.
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Slappy, if you feel my reply as defensive than you missed my intention by miles, hope your navigation is better...
Why, as you try to tell us here, should we all support the fat industry to get bigger and bigger and force us to eat what they put on the table? It was already 1978 when I had an argument with BMW (which I actually won in court....) that I had to buy a whole headlight unit also only a glass was broken...
There are plenty of cartridges out there who are NOT a print head as you try to make us believe here. The manufacturer who has integrated the printhead to the cartridge, Epson, has also an enclosed a feature which makes it (almost) impossible to refill at all, so a new cartridge is a requirement once it is empty.
Your comparision of a urine destillery may fit your personal point of view; I assume that for most, if not all of us, and certainly for me, this verbal excursion is completely inadequate and reflects surely more the area you are living in.
20 U$ is an excellent deal...maybe for you with a decent salary. The production costs are well below 3 U$ as you may be able to find out after doing some homework.
You are right in assuming that a market price is based on consumer demands and mass production. But you forgot something, if there is no competion, and there is almost none as the cartridges do only fit with one manufacturer and here often only one particular model, than the manufacturer has all the power to keep the price at it's desired level.
Prices at a more reasonable level will make the refillers think twice before they start to go through all the hassle and stains.
And reasonable would be anything below 10 U$.
Your conclusion that refillers are responsible for the high priced (forgot, you called it reasonable) cartridges is far off any reality as I have mentioned before. Buying more new cartridges will not lead a monopolist to reduce the price but fill shareholders pockets.
Thanks for the educational statement in your last sentence. I highly appreciate all these hints as it will certainly help me and others to have a closer look to what we buy in the future to save a bit more environment. At least the refillers can proudly look forward to have started with something you obviously did not even think of. Question is, who insults whom?
And this is the end of this discussion for me as I, unfortunately, cannot refill my cartridges at all....
Thanking you for your kind attention.
Why, as you try to tell us here, should we all support the fat industry to get bigger and bigger and force us to eat what they put on the table? It was already 1978 when I had an argument with BMW (which I actually won in court....) that I had to buy a whole headlight unit also only a glass was broken...
There are plenty of cartridges out there who are NOT a print head as you try to make us believe here. The manufacturer who has integrated the printhead to the cartridge, Epson, has also an enclosed a feature which makes it (almost) impossible to refill at all, so a new cartridge is a requirement once it is empty.
Your comparision of a urine destillery may fit your personal point of view; I assume that for most, if not all of us, and certainly for me, this verbal excursion is completely inadequate and reflects surely more the area you are living in.
20 U$ is an excellent deal...maybe for you with a decent salary. The production costs are well below 3 U$ as you may be able to find out after doing some homework.
You are right in assuming that a market price is based on consumer demands and mass production. But you forgot something, if there is no competion, and there is almost none as the cartridges do only fit with one manufacturer and here often only one particular model, than the manufacturer has all the power to keep the price at it's desired level.
Prices at a more reasonable level will make the refillers think twice before they start to go through all the hassle and stains.
And reasonable would be anything below 10 U$.
Your conclusion that refillers are responsible for the high priced (forgot, you called it reasonable) cartridges is far off any reality as I have mentioned before. Buying more new cartridges will not lead a monopolist to reduce the price but fill shareholders pockets.
Thanks for the educational statement in your last sentence. I highly appreciate all these hints as it will certainly help me and others to have a closer look to what we buy in the future to save a bit more environment. At least the refillers can proudly look forward to have started with something you obviously did not even think of. Question is, who insults whom?
And this is the end of this discussion for me as I, unfortunately, cannot refill my cartridges at all....
Thanking you for your kind attention.
Last edited by FL310; 13th May 2002 at 00:10.
