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ios6 makes ipad a pile of dung
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I agree about the ipad2 with ios6.
SWMBO has one, and downloaded ios6. Since then, it turns itself on and off with no command from us, and when we do ask it to get out of bed, it behaves like a teenager.
Your 8 seconds is lightning quick compared to ours.
SWMBO thought it was great until ios6. She now thinks it's a pile of ****.
Shame that such a potentially great product has been ruined with ios6.
On the apple support communities, it is made very clear that apple will not and do not support "down" - it is more like up - grading from ios6 to 5.
I agree about the ipad2 with ios6.
SWMBO has one, and downloaded ios6. Since then, it turns itself on and off with no command from us, and when we do ask it to get out of bed, it behaves like a teenager.
Your 8 seconds is lightning quick compared to ours.
SWMBO thought it was great until ios6. She now thinks it's a pile of ****.
Shame that such a potentially great product has been ruined with ios6.
On the apple support communities, it is made very clear that apple will not and do not support "down" - it is more like up - grading from ios6 to 5.
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Ancient Observer, I agree.
I've got an appointment with Genius Bar, hoping they will sort out my iPad2. At least if others are commenting about the effect a so called upgrading from ios5to ios6 has caused, they cannot deny they don't have an issue as they clearly do.
I've got an appointment with Genius Bar, hoping they will sort out my iPad2. At least if others are commenting about the effect a so called upgrading from ios5to ios6 has caused, they cannot deny they don't have an issue as they clearly do.
Please let us know if you get anywhere.
The apple community boards suggest that no-one in apple is admitting to a problem.
SWMBO's turns on, the apple in the centre is bright, as though it wants to do something, then the apple goes dull and it won't start. I've waited an hour and it won't start. I then have to press home and start buttons together for 10 secs, and it turns off. Then, turn it on again, and if I'm lucky, it starts. As you say, the actual starting is much, much slower. The slide, once it eventually appears, can take ages to actually want to slide.
As I said before, it turns itself on and off with no commands from us.
I've given up with the apple community boards, as no-one seems to be getting any satisfaction.
SWMBO really liked this ipad in the early days. Now it is as bad as early windoze products.
No wonder apple are firing so many senior bods. This software is much worse than Vista. Our family has 2 Vista laptops. At least they both work. (Having said that, Mrs Gates' XP updates recently killed off one of our machines - at least the ipad is only half dead)
The apple community boards suggest that no-one in apple is admitting to a problem.
SWMBO's turns on, the apple in the centre is bright, as though it wants to do something, then the apple goes dull and it won't start. I've waited an hour and it won't start. I then have to press home and start buttons together for 10 secs, and it turns off. Then, turn it on again, and if I'm lucky, it starts. As you say, the actual starting is much, much slower. The slide, once it eventually appears, can take ages to actually want to slide.
As I said before, it turns itself on and off with no commands from us.
I've given up with the apple community boards, as no-one seems to be getting any satisfaction.
SWMBO really liked this ipad in the early days. Now it is as bad as early windoze products.
No wonder apple are firing so many senior bods. This software is much worse than Vista. Our family has 2 Vista laptops. At least they both work. (Having said that, Mrs Gates' XP updates recently killed off one of our machines - at least the ipad is only half dead)
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iPad2 replaced with a new one.
Had ios5 on it and it worked superbly just like my original when new.
As it had ios5 it wouldn't sync with my icloud back up.
To get my saved data back, I had to download ios6.........
appears to be back to normal and working now.
Had ios5 on it and it worked superbly just like my original when new.
As it had ios5 it wouldn't sync with my icloud back up.
To get my saved data back, I had to download ios6.........
appears to be back to normal and working now.
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You'll have to buy a new ipad4 with the A6 processor! Opening up is instant. Having said that no doubt there will be a new model sometime next year. This surely begs the question of how often and how much do you spend on all this. If you upgrade twice a year you'll be looking at around £1000 a year. No wonder Apple is doing well.
The down side to these upgrades is that any sound boxes or connectors won't work because Apple have decided to introduce a new smaller version.
The down side to these upgrades is that any sound boxes or connectors won't work because Apple have decided to introduce a new smaller version.
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You'll have to buy a new ipad4 with the A6 processor!
A few milliseconds with Google, or on the Apple website would have yielded the iOS What's New page on the Apple website "www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/"
It quite clearly shows there that iOS 6 is compatible with iPhone variants 3GS, 4, 4S and 5, and both the original iPad and the new iPad 2. It also quite clearly shows the small number of limitations if you run it on older devices (this varies model by model).
These limitations are not set by Apple because they want you to buy a new iPhone, its because the performance of older devices don't enable the newer more demanding applications to run.
Having said that no doubt there will be a new model sometime next year.The down side to these upgrades is that any sound boxes or connectors won't work because Apple have decided to introduce a new smaller version.
Remind me, who's the primary developer of Android following the acquisiton of Android Inc ? Oh yeah, that's right, Google. Great track record they have on keeping features on their product portfolio don't they ?
Personally, I prefer the new connector to the old in many ways. For a start, physically its more robust, technically its faster and bidirectional.
I've no time for ignorant Apple bashers.
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mixture
Thank you for your thoughts and ill conceived comment. Far from being an Apple basher I'm very happy with my new ipad and Macbook pro. I was merely commenting on the consistent changes there are in the Apple world. What was the point of changing the connector in the first place? The older one was fine. Perhaps as you have been in the IT industry a long time you could answer the question?
Shopping around Curry's yesterday I couldn't fine a single sound box that is compatible with the new Apple connector.
I've no time for ignorant Apple bashers.
Shopping around Curry's yesterday I couldn't fine a single sound box that is compatible with the new Apple connector.
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The old 30-pin connector is a fixed design, with all the pin designations set since the beginning, it therefore has a plethora of pins that are no longer going to be used like Firewire or see declining use like analogue audio out. It would be difficult to reassign them for more modern uses, because of the fallout from damaging some older kit with a 30-pin dock.
Apple clearly wants a connector that allows them to change the pin functions as new things come along. All of the pins on the new connector can be reassigned, with the chip in the plug telling the iDevice what the pins do. So the included USB cable has a chip in it that tells the iDevice which pins have power and which pins are the USB2 connection.
There are already 8-pin adapters for HDMI, VGA, audio. I can see the connector being used for USB3, when the flash memory storage is fast enough to warrant it.
Apple clearly wants a connector that allows them to change the pin functions as new things come along. All of the pins on the new connector can be reassigned, with the chip in the plug telling the iDevice what the pins do. So the included USB cable has a chip in it that tells the iDevice which pins have power and which pins are the USB2 connection.
There are already 8-pin adapters for HDMI, VGA, audio. I can see the connector being used for USB3, when the flash memory storage is fast enough to warrant it.
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Ok, looks like I might have mis-interpreted your post a little, although I reckon your wording did provide a little scope for such an incident to occur.
Nonetheless, I will hold up my hand and apologise.... I've had a couple of long days plus timezone changes.... so might be quicker off the trigger than usual !
I think MacBoero has largely hit it on the head. The reason for Apple's change was, as far as I can tell (because Apple don't pay my wages), purely technical, not commercial or design based.
Many people complain that Apple should have stuck a micro-USB connector on the iPhone instead of the Lightning connector they have. But this would limit technical flexibility, and you would loose some of the physical benefits of the Lighting connector (doesn't matter which way in you stick the Lighting connector, but the micro-USB can only go one way..... I sometimes find myself on a non hands-free phone call, trying to plug the phone into the charger because its running out of battery .... that task is easier to achieve with the Lightining conector than a micro-USB one).
But MacBoero also missed something .....
Micro-USB has a wattage limitation. The Lighting connector can carry a minimum of 12 watts (judging by the 12W AC adapter Apple sell).
This means apple can have consistency across the iPod, iPad, iTouch range, as well as future products with larger power consumption requirements due to bigger screens or whatever. Higher wattage also means faster recharging times.
So when you look at it that way.... all those moaning bloggers, journalists (and PPRuNers, crewmeal and a handful of others excepted) are just closet ignorant Apple bashers who really should have done their homework before posting about "yet more proprietary Apple stuff".
crewmeal.... I offer you a virtual handshake and an offer of peace and harmony ! This is, afterall, PPRuNe and not the Gaza Strip !
Ok, looks like I might have mis-interpreted your post a little, although I reckon your wording did provide a little scope for such an incident to occur.
Nonetheless, I will hold up my hand and apologise.... I've had a couple of long days plus timezone changes.... so might be quicker off the trigger than usual !
I think MacBoero has largely hit it on the head. The reason for Apple's change was, as far as I can tell (because Apple don't pay my wages), purely technical, not commercial or design based.
Many people complain that Apple should have stuck a micro-USB connector on the iPhone instead of the Lightning connector they have. But this would limit technical flexibility, and you would loose some of the physical benefits of the Lighting connector (doesn't matter which way in you stick the Lighting connector, but the micro-USB can only go one way..... I sometimes find myself on a non hands-free phone call, trying to plug the phone into the charger because its running out of battery .... that task is easier to achieve with the Lightining conector than a micro-USB one).
But MacBoero also missed something .....
Micro-USB has a wattage limitation. The Lighting connector can carry a minimum of 12 watts (judging by the 12W AC adapter Apple sell).
This means apple can have consistency across the iPod, iPad, iTouch range, as well as future products with larger power consumption requirements due to bigger screens or whatever. Higher wattage also means faster recharging times.
So when you look at it that way.... all those moaning bloggers, journalists (and PPRuNers, crewmeal and a handful of others excepted) are just closet ignorant Apple bashers who really should have done their homework before posting about "yet more proprietary Apple stuff".
crewmeal.... I offer you a virtual handshake and an offer of peace and harmony ! This is, afterall, PPRuNe and not the Gaza Strip !
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The us of the word "compatible" in the IT world is interesting.
As I said earlier in this debate and in other threads, SWMBO loved her ipad2.
However, time on the apple community boards and elsewhere on google shows that the ipad 2 is not "compatible" with ios 6. All the foul ups reported are not just cos the Ancient household is technologically backward.
Apple limits software updates. We've an older Touch that no longer "benefits" from software updates. That's fine by me. It does what we bought it for.
I wish they'd done that with ipad2 and ios6.
As I said earlier in this debate and in other threads, SWMBO loved her ipad2.
However, time on the apple community boards and elsewhere on google shows that the ipad 2 is not "compatible" with ios 6. All the foul ups reported are not just cos the Ancient household is technologically backward.
Apple limits software updates. We've an older Touch that no longer "benefits" from software updates. That's fine by me. It does what we bought it for.
I wish they'd done that with ipad2 and ios6.
This is all a bit confusing. I and colleagues have iPad 2's which are upgrade to ios6 with no problems whatsoever. Been using ios6 for at least 4-6 weeks.
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A bit hasty of me to say my iPad with ios6 was ok again, well it appears not. It takes a full 8 seconds for the 'Slide to Unlock' button to work. This never happened with ios5, the slider worked almost immediately then every time, now it doesn't. Regrettably this apparent misfunction takes the shine off a great product.
I'd be interested, has no one else noticed from switching on and after the Apple logo disappears, the 'Slide To Unlock' will not operate for a further 8 seconds?
I'd be interested, has no one else noticed from switching on and after the Apple logo disappears, the 'Slide To Unlock' will not operate for a further 8 seconds?
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SWMBO was about to chuck this £500 piece of Apple junk.
Now just 13 months old.
It randomly turns itself on and off, and will only start less than half the time. Currently doing a full restore. Takes blooming ages.
Catch 22 in the Restore is that the ipad is asked by the pc to turn itself off and on a few times. As it will only turn itself on at about 40% of the time, am having to sit here with the little (think of v rude american swearword).
Now just 13 months old.
It randomly turns itself on and off, and will only start less than half the time. Currently doing a full restore. Takes blooming ages.
Catch 22 in the Restore is that the ipad is asked by the pc to turn itself off and on a few times. As it will only turn itself on at about 40% of the time, am having to sit here with the little (think of v rude american swearword).
iPad heating
I venture in here having read only the first and last pages of the thread. Will read those in between over the next few days but, if any alert Ppruner gives me a heads-up, I'd be appreciative.
The battery life of my iPad 3 (the one without a number) seems very low compared to the first version. Within 20 minutes from 100% it's down to registering low 80s battery left.
And, when charging up from that 80% level the heat emanating from it is enough to fry eggs. Back at 100% charged, it's cool all over.
Ambient temperature when at the low 80s point and plugged in to recharge was 33C. I was sweating but half expected the iPad to explode.
As said above, I'll trawl the thread for answers but if any kind soul can point me to the answer (i.e. why the hell does it heat up so much), much appreciated.
The battery life of my iPad 3 (the one without a number) seems very low compared to the first version. Within 20 minutes from 100% it's down to registering low 80s battery left.
And, when charging up from that 80% level the heat emanating from it is enough to fry eggs. Back at 100% charged, it's cool all over.
Ambient temperature when at the low 80s point and plugged in to recharge was 33C. I was sweating but half expected the iPad to explode.
As said above, I'll trawl the thread for answers but if any kind soul can point me to the answer (i.e. why the hell does it heat up so much), much appreciated.
Thanks Milo,
Yes, it's under warranty. Before I take it back I intend to do some timing to see how long the battery really lasts, how long it takes to recharge, and the temperatures it reaches.
Yes, it's under warranty. Before I take it back I intend to do some timing to see how long the battery really lasts, how long it takes to recharge, and the temperatures it reaches.
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be careful
I once had a phone battery short out while the phone was in my trouser pocket, and to say the result was warming would be an understatement.
I managed to get the battery out of the phone before it burst into flames, but if I'd left it any longer I think I would have been faced with a very challenging situation
(I was actually in WH Smiths at the time, in a queue waiting to pay and had to run for the door, arms full of unpaid shopping with store security chasing me as I tried to get the phone apart before it burst into flames....)
I once had a phone battery short out while the phone was in my trouser pocket, and to say the result was warming would be an understatement.
I managed to get the battery out of the phone before it burst into flames, but if I'd left it any longer I think I would have been faced with a very challenging situation
(I was actually in WH Smiths at the time, in a queue waiting to pay and had to run for the door, arms full of unpaid shopping with store security chasing me as I tried to get the phone apart before it burst into flames....)