JAA CPL/Multi/IR FIC to ICAO ANAC
 

Hi Guys,

Has anyone gone through this process with ANAC?

Could you tell me how long did it take? How much did it cost?

Appreciate any help.

FAA to DAC took me over 8 months back in 2004. I doubt anything has changed for the better. The process should be the same. I had to pay for a few hours in a seneca. I think it was around R$900 an hour back then.
You gotta have tons of patience. Good luck!!

It took me 4 months just the Heli CPL, you can easily add a couple of months for the rest. You need indeed lots of patience... That was last year.

Thanks for your replies! I've been told by ANAC it would take 2 months... I knew they were talking :mad:

FAA conversion to ANAC
 

Hello
I'm citizen of Czech Republic living in USA holding FAA/Com-IFR Helicopter and would like to convert my license to ANAC.
Can you please help with any information regarding conversion possibility and getting working visa in Brazil.
I'd love to move to Brazil and work there as Heli pilot but I have been talking to many people in US and got very different opinions so my questions. Is there any chance to get it done?
Thank you for any information.
Jiri

Jiri,

Conversion would not be enough. You can only fly in Brazil if you are a brazilian citizen. Or, if you are flying an aircraft as an instructor, and just for the period of time necessary to form a pilot able to fly the one you are instructing him.

Só, if the intention is moving to Brazil without the citizenship... forget it. Politicians are conducting a lobby to change this, but local pilots will keep it away from their jobs. Even thought seems to be a lot of jobs available, that is not the true.

Find a good and charming brazilian lady, get married, and apply for the job. I did it ! And worked pretty well. Brazilian women are the best, and the paycheck here is really nice too.

Tweedy
Thank you very much for your useful information I really appreciate that.
The idea you have sounds actually pretty good. I'm currently instructing a Brazilian guy and he told me to get married as well, it sounds like a long process but it would solve everything I guess ? I'll do whatever it takes, this is my big dream to move there.
Do you know how long it takes to get a citizen after you get married and do you think I can try find someone in the US and get started here ?
Again I really appreciate your help.
Thanks:ok:
Jiri
Where are you from ?

Hi, Jiri.

I am from SBSP, living here. I suggested you a brazilian girl to get married, because I can`t foresee any better option. I am really married with one. I am Brazilian ! And I have a close friend flying for EMBRAER who being a foreigner, did it.
What will take longer is to find the Braz girl. Or maybe not !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Country is outstanding, even thought violent. Paycheck is great, food is among the best in the world, and aviation is growing stable.

where are you based?

Best wishes,

@Tweedy Country is outstanding, even thought violent. Paycheck is great, food is among the best in the world, and aviation is growing stable.

you are joking right? have you ever flown/lived outside Brazil?

Pay sucks big time, food among the best??? Aviation stable??

pay: a Capt gets what the avarage FO gets in Europe

food: unless you have 50 reais to spend on a meal, food is always the same and only tastes good because they put a ton of Ajinomoto in it (MSG), foreign food sucks, they have no idea how to make a pizza or cook pasta. Everything is full of salt or sugar, everything you buy frozen as MSG in it!!!!!! FK peanuts have MSG in it!!!!!!! beer is cut with soy......

If you think BBQ is good, take a trip to Uruguay

there are some good dishes but i`m talking about the avarage stuff available..

Today I bought a file mignon, I paid as much as I would pay for the same piece but organic fed back in Switzerland!!! even Milk is more expensive then Organic one in Europe!! wtf?

man you need a reality Check

to answer above

in order to get a CPL here as foreign you need to have an RNE 9the ID for foreigns, takes loooooooooooong time to get. there are 3 ways to become a legal resident:

-you do a stable union with a Brazilian girl, YOU DON`T NEED TO GET MARRIED (it will take the same time to get a passport), this will take like 30 minutes to do at the notary. A stable union does not give you any rights on anything your gf owns or has, the only reason there is such thing is for sharing things like health insurance, life insurance....

-Get a kid with a Brazilian girl

-Invest or start a company (STAY AWAY FROM THIS, BRAZILIANS WILL EAT YOU ALIVE THEY DON`T WANT ANYBODY FROM OUTSIDE TO COME HERE AND DO BIZ)

When you have either of this 3 you can apply for the RNE at the federal Police, in order to apply with the 1st of the 3 methods you need the girl to show that she can provide for you (she needs to have a job and it has to be with carteira assinada)...in some rare cases they allow you to start the process without this and you can get a job yourself (good luck with that....I made it and it`s a pain...now it`s even harder since visa holders can`t have a bank account anymore so it`s almost impossible to get a job with carteira assinada as foreign).

After you get the process going you get a protocol number and you will start waiting for the RNE, I applied back in Dec 2009, my RNE has not come out yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Without RNE you can`t start the process for the CPL conversion at ANAC, you can get a CCF and a 90 days validation, or even a PPL...but that`s it

@Jiri: it was easier to move to the US for me (I lived and worked there) then doing the same thing in Brazil, I`m the second generation of immigrants here (my dad moved back)....

STAY AWAY FROM THIS PLACE, but if you really wanna move here then go to SP

Flyingswiss, that just about sums it up, the paycheck here is anything but great and your other points are spot on :}

But I can't agree about pizza....it's only Cariocas who haven't got a clue, here in SP they know what they are doing :oh:

TTFN

BTW, my RNE took 9 months, but that was almost ten years ago.

Hi Tweedy
I'm currently living in Philadelphia U.S., working as Helicopter flight instructor.
I was thinking to go to Brazil end of this year, I hope this would be possible if I start to process everything right now.
Do you have any idea how long it takes to get citizenship after you get married ?
I really appreciate all your help and positive answers.
Thanks again:ok:
Jiri

Hi Flyingswiss
Thanks for your useful info regarding conversion.
Jiri
Love Brazil:)

The last person I know who did this waited seven years after getting their RNE.

If you have big pockets or big pay (working in Brazil??:eek:) then go to Sao Paulo
If you DONT, then go to Campinas

Tweedy, you need to get your IRS realigned. You're way off course.....

There are still places in Brazil with great places for food. SP has really outstanding places, unfortunately prices have picked up lately, the "rodizio" that last year was for 17,40 is now 40,00!!! Expresso at the airport got over 3,50 !!! (imagine doing stand-by). POA, CWB, SSA, NAT and FOR are culinary joy layovers... RJ is the place i agree lacks most either price and service, its cool lifestile though living there...
Salaries are still on the lower side, unless your options are Panama, Chile or Argentina...
I think it looks quite promissing though for those looking for Heli jobs, specially if you are interested in offshore with experience on the big boys!
In my opinion one has to ballance the options.
And by my own experience whatever you bring from abroad in experience and quality are completely undervalued by ANAC and most Companies specially in regard to the :yuk: crappy quality of initial training offered here.

TOFFAIR,

You're right on the money about experience from abroad. Couldn't agree with you more.

Any of you guys, know what do you need to perform a conversion of a JAA CPL/ multi/IR to the ANAC license? im trying to contact ANAC by phone but seems to be impossible, next week my girlfriend will go to ANAC Recife and try to do it, but if someone can help me would be great.
Cheers!

Send me a pm and I will put you in touch with a friend of mine that just did it, he went to EVORA, he got everything done in just over 2 months in Rio....

@TOFF we live in SP now...I will give you a call next week..