LAN Peru,Chile, Argentina
 

I see that LAN is hiring... Do they hire American pilots?

Bill.F
Could you pls elaborate regarding the fact that Lan is asking for FAA licence? Does this mean that it’s no longer necessary to convert it to the local one (i.e Chilean) in order to work for Lan?

no inventen cosas / do not invent things..

I've got and Invite Email yesterday to send in my stuff before 12OCT10 for review, then if all good an interview.

I asked about salary, seat, AC and base.

No salary info.
FO seat.
No AC info.
Santiago.


The email was from Francisca Isabel.

I am a US Citizen, fluent in Spanish with 1 class med, ATP and A-320 TR. (8500 hrs).

I don't have any of the chilean lics.

I don't really know how i qualify or can they let me fly in Chile.

I would love to take the job, but I think the LIC would be a no deal for them.

Also I dont really know anything about way and cost of living in Santiago with an FO salary (Assuming Airbus 319 entry level)
I dont know much about upgrades either.

Cheers.

As far as I know LAN Airlines (Chile) is recruiting First Officers only.

Selection process:
-68 questions based in the ASA FAA ATPL prep
-68 questions based in the ASA FAA IFR prep
-IFR sim evaluation in a Flight Training Device, no FD or AP either.
-Psycological evaluation
-Personal Interview
-Medical

After been positive, you would have to take an ATPL (written only) and English ICAO Level exams with the Chilean Aviation Authority.

LAN will arrange the dates but you will have to pay the exam fees.

Training would be in Santiado de Chile. During that period LAN will provide housing.

After check out, the housing is in your own.

Salary depends on your flight time, with yours 8,500 hrs it will be full FO salary. I don't have the exact number but it should be around U$D 4,000 pocket money per 14 salaries per year.

Roster is usually 8 days OFF per month but only 4 of them will be consecutive.

Good luck.

@cosmicomet

that sounds more realistic.

They are not recruiting FAA Pilots. They are recruiting pilots with Commercial License and that speak spanish, not need to be FAA and you will go thru that process.. Just like cosmicomet said

I am not sure that they will provide you housing during training though...

and about salary, i don't think you will go to the full salary, because it's not based on how many hours you have, the salary it's based on some other facts.

Delta Golf,
That information I have from a very good friend who has finished the type rating check yesterday.

LAN Airlines (Chile) is going to provide accommodation until the end of the line training.

For what I can see from the pilots recruited from Argentina most of them have very low experience.

LAN Peru was recruiting some Spanish but they are having problems to get the license in Peru.
So I would say LAN Peru is not going to recruit Pilots out of the Pacto Andino in the future unless LP settles the problem with the Pilots Union.

LAN Argentina was trying to recruit 4 LAN Chile Senior FO to become Captains in Argentina until the own Argentinians have enough experience to get the command, but that was not approved by the Authority.
That was two or three years ago, and LAN Argentina has not grown at all during that period.

Besides, time to command in LAN Chile can not be shorter than 6 years at this moment.

Any info on salary, etc?
Regards

Thank you guys for the information.

I've got a job in the US, I am Argentinean.

Ive tried to get a job in Argentina LAN ARG, but the license conversion got the best of me.

The Salary and working conditions are not what I expected in LAN Chile.

I am not taking the job in Chile, I hope it makes room for a Chilean Pilots.

Cheers.

besides FAA ATP what kind of questions are being asked about chilean regulations in the test?
can anybody help me with some insight into the math equations being asked in the psychometric test.

thanks in advance..

To cosmiccomet
 

cosmiccomet,
Check your PM

Is it true that Lan Chile has been hiring a number of Mexicana pilots (after its bankruptcy)? Are they offered DECs or are they starting as FOs?

Also, is Lan Cargo a separate operation with a separate pilot list or can its 767F and 777F positions be bid by Lan Chile pilots?

gjln, check older posts about LAN and you will have the payscales...

about Mexicana pilots, haven't heard anything about it...

and about LAN CARGO pilots, they only fly LAN CARGO planes, (freighters).

Hi there!!!

One of the papers/certificates they ask for when filling the online application is a "Certificate of hours flown by the license issuing authority". As far as I'm aware my licensing authority (the UK CAA) does not issue such certificate. Then again, I might be wrong as I have not asked them yet.
Has anyone applied without having such certificate?
On the same subject, I'm currently in Santiago and will be around for another three days. If I would try to go to their Human Resourses to enquire about this Certificate issue would it be, kind of OK, or would I actually be regarded as me being inconvenient?

Gracias,
Zero

Zero, all they want is to verify that your hours are legit, so you should find a way to get a certificate, from your flight school, last job, etc stating the hours you've flown there.

Thanks DeltaGolf!!! :ok:

I do have the Logbook stamped with stamps of the several schools that I attended and the occasions I did simulator with the current employer. Additionally the employer produces a monthly report stating the flights and hours I did each month. Do you think that would be sufficient?

Muchas gracias,
Zero

LAN Interview
 

Hola a todos,
Alguna informacion en la entrevista de esta semana con LAN Chile
Saludos

well here is the last one... LAN buys Aires...

LAN Airlines Announces Agreement to Acquire Colombian Airline AIRES S.A. | Business Wire

LAN Airlines anuncia promesa de compraventa de aerolinea AIRES
 

Great news! :D

Thanks DeltaGolf for sharing.



Found the english version:


LAN Airlines to Acquire Colombian Airline AIRES - Aviation News - PILOT CAREER CENTRE

Hey guys,

Any idea how long it takes to get an answer from LAN after the interview?

Thanks!!

Any insight on the interview process?
Thanks very much

@ capt_rs

it takes about a week to 10 days to get an answer... whether is positive or negative...

My buddy working with me is american and married a peruvian. They told him still, there only looking for full Peruvians. They did tell him to call next month and see if there looking for non-peruvians. I herd they are needing pilots, i got a call from them a few days ago.

Any one has advice?
 

I am Peruvian and have a FAA commercial pilot license. They called me and asked a few questions, everything was going good till she asked what plans i have for getting the Peruvian commercial pilot license? I answered non yet, she replayed well ill call you next month and see if you have a plan, i can’t sent you an invitation till you get one. I'm hoping she just meant the plan, but just in case here i am thinking about how to do it on my own. I think i got everything thought out but the two written exams. Commercial pilot and phraseology.

hello,

could anyone that has done the interview recently explain how it was please?
Do you really need the Dalton/CR3?

Going on Monday, you?
You need the Dalton for the exams, been asked to get one.

Pardon my ignorance guys, but what is the Dalton/CR3? Thanks.

What I understood was, Dalton is basically the CR3. I brought the one used in the UK.
U coming on Monday?

I've been invited for an interview, but I'm trying to figure out availability, logistics, etc. Best of luck at the interview this Monday.

CR3:
Jeppesen CR-3 - Wiki

E6B known as Dalton in this latitudes:
E6B - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

:O

My bad...I've used the E6B throughout my career and wasn't aware of Jeppesen's version of the flight computer. Thanks.

Whats behind all that...
 

Alright, I just wanted to add my mustard to the discussion and see where it ends:

LAN is hiring, but they are VERY picky. But as we all know, LAN is not LAN, there is Peru, then Chile, Ecuador, Argentina and last but now newest, LAN Colombia, cutely named LACO.
The minimum requirement for the entire holding has never changed: You have to read, speak, write and understand Castellano, if you like it or not. It's the official company language, so all you English-only 20000 hour 40-years of experience Captains, so sorry... Also, you need to pass the screening and psychological and psycho-technical evals, no way around those.

Lets start off with Peru:
LPE is expanding, very quickly. Rumor has it that out of the 50 Airbus A319's/320's and 321's ordered at the last Farnborough Airshow 22 will go directly to Peru. The requirement is 500 pilots within 5 years, 100 pilots per year. What do FO's require? Icao Comercial IFR, THATS IT! I mean, it's a joke, 250 hours no multi, and you get a shot at flying the right seat of an A320... Ok, not for everyone though, to work in Peru you require to be a citizen or at least a resident of the Andean Community, or CAN, Colombia, Ecuador, Bolivia, Peru. That's why LAN Peru was recruiting in Miami a few weeks ago, there are a lot of them in S. Florida. It's not an agreement of the Union much more a requirement of the state, the work ministry to be exact. Also, FYI, the reason why Spaniards are allowed to work in Peru dates back to an agreement of 1959 between Peru and Spain. As SpanAir and AirComet went belly up, the company saw an opportunity to recruit and took it.

Next stop; Chile:
The expansion Plans for LAN Airlines and LAN Express ended due to citizenship restrictions of the Chilenian Government, but with a former LAN Chairman at the helm, those rules have changed, a lot. The exact details are not known to me, but work authorizations will now be given on a case-by-case basis. For First Officers the minimums are as in Peru, CPL IFR only. The more experience you have the better, especially in jets for direct entry captains. Obviously, it will be almost impossible to get into LAN and Lan Express with only 250 hours and not being a citizen since there is a line of applicants, so don't keep your hopes up.

Lets jump to Argentina:
LAN AR is not doing very good. The union has too much political influenze, and if it were up to LAN I heard rumors of mid and upper level managers in Santiago that it might have been a mistake to go into Argentina. It might be possible that a new aircraft or two end up there, I highly doubt it though. If it were not up the the Unions there, Argentina would have the largest Long-Range Fleet of LAN as it is a very well situated strategic Place.

Ecuador is next:
LAN Ecuador has had a very interesting increase in demand the last two years, and their fleet is expanding too. 6 A319's and two A320's are supposed to go there. There is a demand for pilots, very slowly though.

Beautiful Colombia now:
Not really new, BUT still interesting. LAN purchase Aires for US$32.5 million. Thats a fact, what no one know is, whats next? LAN operated in and around Colombia flying Cargo, but Aires, an airline that began operations in 1981, which will be "d.b.a." LAN Colombia, is a different ball game. How they will operated, what equipment, destinations, personell etc... no one speaks about. Speculations are that the fleet of DASH-8's will be returned to the leasing agency, that also the 737's are going back to all be replaced with A-320 Family Aircraft, or that everything will continue. Time will tell the tale...

So much for now, I hope that will give everyone an update on things.

Happy Landings

Hey EagleA25

Thanks for the info about LAN,

But maybe i am missing something, you said that "it will be almost impossible to get into LAN and Lan Express with only 250 hours and not being a citizen" so why does LAN is recruiting pilots from around the "spanish-speaking" countries (Argentina, Mexico,Spain), you said that work authorizations will be given in a case-by-case basis, so to me if LAN is looking for pilots in different countries, i think the ones that LAN pick would get no problems working in Chile... am i right?

Saludos :)

that's true, I don't know why you are saying that is almost impossible... LAN in Chile (airlines and express) are in need of a lot of FO's, they've been in Argentina, Mexico and recently in Spain... and people are getting in with the minimums...

so it's just a matter of get the right email, phone, talk to them, apply, and go thru the process... THAT'S IT...

Clarify...
 

Ok, sorry for the confusion, what I meant to say is that a foreign (non-S. American Pilot) with "only" a commercial ticket, it will be almost impossible. As the thread started asking if LAN is hiring North Americans I must have subconsciously refered in that direction. There is fierce competition from young Chilenian Pilots themselves, experienced Argentinians, Colombians and Venezulenians who want to work there...
But if LAN Chile/Airlines/Express picks you, it's because they know you will be able to work for them, simple as that...

By the way, LAN ARG is on Strike, as of the early hours of this morning the Pilots, Flight Attendant and Mechanics Unions walked out... So much for that :ugh:

Hope it clears the air a little
Eagle

No DEC in Lan Chile :=

Yupp, and DEC in LPE only into A-319's and into B767 if you're older than 59...

Hey guys I also have and Interview invite with LAN, currently working for a regional in the US. I have been wanting to call and ask them question about what i'm getting myself into, as for pay and bases and time to upgrade information is hard to come by. Anyone else with some insight?

I wonder how are the speculations in Chile and other LAN affiliate countries about the tam purchase. Here in Brazil its not a secret that tam has too many employees and compared to LAN, crews are overpaid. The rumour going around here is that LAN could take over the Longhaul and crewing in Brazil, leaving tam with domestic services... Hope is Crews will be needed. Fear, before that, many could be laid off...
Like to hear thoughts from beyond the Andes!