I saw the link, its very possible that is LAN Guate, TACA ? no way they dont look for candidates with time on the A320. we will see later on.

Is there a specific place where I can find the profile of the airline, (LAN CH, AR, PE, EC, CO) with information on, schedules, pay, upgrade, vacation, benefits, qualifications, key people and any other pertinent information ?

Thank you.

Hello all

I recently got an email from LAN asking to send them my papers (license medical) as well as a certificate from the CAA confirming my flight hours.I have a JAA license and the CAA here in Europe does not issue such a certificate.in fact that responsibility (that my flights hours are indeed real) lies on the school/ instructor as well as the student. Has anyone else been in the same predicament?What are some possible solutions?

I have the same problem, LAN wants my logbook stamped or a certificate with my total time. I have a couple of certificates from different schools and from my last job, that's it! My current job will not give me a certificate of my hours flown there, just a paper showing the totals. I don't think the FAA in the US would stamp my logbooks. Anyone else with the same problem?:ugh:

Are they hiring Expat FO again?????? or is for Capt positions???

I'm not an expat, just a Chileno that got his license and built up hours abroad :)
And when I asked neither of the three CAA's (FAA/JAA?Canadian) stamp your logbook anymore :confused:

When I came to Japan they required a stamp on my logbook certifying the time as well, what I opted to do since I couldn't get such a certification from the FAA, nor from my previous airline, was to take my logbook to a notary public, raised my right hand and got my hours notarized, they accepted that, don't know if it could work for LAN.

I beleive the Dominican is correct. But also, check the consulate . Some airline may require that you verified the hours that way. IT is just a way of they making sure you are not lying.

I did what the Dominican said. After notarizing, I also did the process to get it Apostilled. It worked for me, no questions asked from the airline or aviation authority.

Take that Nice Logbook to Miguel Claro 1314, Providencia, Santiago (DGAC) while you´re in the conversion process and then they´ll stamp it for you, and extend you a Flight Time Certificate for near U$D 4.

From a rumour standpoint is my understandig that LAN Chile has already filled the expat "Capacity" don't know if this is National regulation or Union negotiation (tend to think is the last one).
I've been hearing that only Chileans FO recruiting is on the move right now...
Anyway, as rumour always has it, seems that they'll be taking some Pluna guys, ¿where to? LAN Colombia and LAN Peru where the need for Capt looks kinda urgent.

Read this, and you'll see
LAN, Copa y BQB se disputan a los codiciados pilotos desempleados

Thanks a lot for your help guys!Much appreciated :D:ok:

Hey nikB, are you from Chile, if not do you have chilean passport. Are you applying for captain or fo?? When did they send you the email, how did you apply to them??

Any news for expats?

LAN Airlines pilot jobs, payscales and entry requirements.

And then read in another spaniard forum in which im not registered they have been firing all the spaniards.

They say its because Spaniards have a bad attitude but they also say there was bad treatment and conditions involved against this european spaniards from the south american peruvian pilots. ( Lan Perú )

My take: they might be making room for the pilots from Pluna?

I'm guessing that's LAN Peru only right?

I´ve heard LAN is not filling its needs for pilots, is that true?

Peruvian aviation regs state that only Nationals be hired by airlines, with the exception of CAN nationals in recent times. Foreigners can only be hired if and when there aren't any locals who are suitably qualified. The aviation/labour lawyer mentioned in the article opposed the hiring of Spanish pilots because:

1. Plenty of unemployed local pilots.
2. There exist no reciprocity between Peru and Spain.

This can hardly be called racism, can it? Of course not. Seems perfectly acceptable to me. You want to hire foreign nationals? Ok, just give my guys the same opportunities in the their country, and give the guys on the street a chance first. Could I go and fly in Spain if I wanted to? Would Sepla allow it? Real question btw.

So the company was able to convince the government that skilled/rated Spanish pilots were necessary to meet LAN Peru's growing needs of expansion. And as Read, Speak & Write Spanish is an absolute must they looked towards Spanish shores to supplement the already culturally diverse work force.

The Spanish contingency were met with open arms by LPE Pilots. I personally get on quite well with most of them, and am told by most FOs they enjoy flying with them. Nevertheless more than half have left for pastures green of their own accord, with the exception of 1, and some have stayed and settled in (3 plus years and going) I take it the company is looking to recruit more DECs from Spain over the next year, so again clueless about the firing of Spaniards for Pluna guys.

Your post talks about bad attitude and bad treatment from "South American Peruvian Pilots". Why don't you ask those that stayed why they chose to do so, and why this who left did instead of making reference to other forums.

I hope this brings any further discussion on this subject to an end as I have no desire to waste any more of my time engaging in debate with you.

OW

Very well said!:D Can´t agree more.

LAN Perú hired a bunch of DEC spaniards more some months ago. All of them with previous experience on A320.

They are happy and the compay too.

Actually 8 spaniards (from +-400 pilots) within Lanpe.

Facts
 

I have a Ecuatorian friend who is working for an airline in Spain, he come here, did his JAA conversion somehow get the "papers" and now is flying like anybody else.

I have not heard still a "law" that states that there is a limited number of foreigners that can fly in a Spanish airline. Just to keep in mind, as long as you speak Spanish and have the appropiate "papers" and license required you are more than welcome to come on board.

Not only that, I have another 2 Italians friends and one dutch that are working in another Spanish airline, and in a corporate company with absolutely no problems, they speak Spanish "fairly" well.

And if you look around Europe, if you have the right to work and live there and speak the language that is required (German, Polish, English, Spanish, French) somebody from outside the EU have exactly the same rights like somebody else from within the EU.

I am from Spain, however I HATE aviation in Spain that is why I want to go somewhere else, tried South America, Caribbean etc but no luck so far. In LAN Peru they told me that I pass the interview, (along with some other Colombians, Venezuelans, Americans) but the fact that I was from Spain drop me out of it at the time of the hiring (but not some of the others).

Regarding Copa.... They hire everybody for Captains, regarding FO's they dont like foreigners, they preffer send to the 737 sim Panamenians with 250 TT that does not speak English AT ALL, there is a high percentage of fresh Panamenians CPL's that FAIL the type rating, not because their skills, because some of them they do not even know how to say "Hola" in English.

I think we should leave on the side all this thing about racism and all this stuff because let me tell you that in EVERY country is a lot of racism with foreigners, in Spain, Peru and EVERYWHERE ELSE.

Eljeke,

You are not making a fare comparison because there is a quite big difference between foreigners that currently work in Europe and overseas citizens that pursue a job in Peru as pilots:

Foreign pilots in Europe must have the legal right to work in the EU (should be a legal resident) and the airline company does not sponsor this process. By the other way, expat pilots intending to work in Peru or in some countries in Latin America, do not have the legal right (they are not legal residents) neither are required to posses it in order to work there, and most of the time the company sponsor them with the visa in detriment of local pilots.

Question is: Would European pilots agree that foreign pilots were allowed to work in EU not having the right to work in the continent?

Chileno777,

I think is a totally fair comparison, that is why I expressed what I really think.

Most of the airlines does not help to get "work" permits, I went to an interview with AIRES (LAN Colombia), passed the interview, they told me as soon as I am able to get the "work permit" somehow to give them a call.

If a Chilean want to work in Iberia, I am going to explain you the process.... First get your JAA tickets, then get married with a Spanish girl and then apply to the airline that you wish to work.

In order to work in LAN and anywhere in South America you need a work permit otherwise the airline will not hire you,.... another different story is corporate, I know there are pilots working with Tourist visa, but that happen EVERYWHERE.

The answer to your question is NO, European pilots will not allow anybody without a work permit to work in Europe, the same applies to Chileans, Peruvians, Americans, etc...

By the way I am heading back to Africa next month, let me know where you are and we can talk about this over some beers!!!

Cheers!!!

Eljeke,

Sent u a PM. :ok:


cheers

No serious company
 

Forget it guys!!, It´s not a serious company.
I have some spanish friends waiting since one year ago.
LAN sent them a "wellcome letter"one year ago after they passed all the assesmet process, even they were instructed to contact with Chilean aviation in order to start with their licence conversion..., in fact some of them left their jobs due to the imminent company admission!!!, and after that the company dissapeared!!. No explanations, no news.... unanswered mails!!. No comments.

@ themagicman00: of course you will get an interview.
They are eager to get experienced guys. Many FAPs inside LAN Peru.

Most of the new F/Os are completellly unexperienced, mostly because the do not find experienced people.

Try it!

Found out today that the LAN peru pilots union has banned all foreign pilot hiring. Only peruvian pilots will be hired.

Don't feel bad. I am a peruvian citizen, FAA and DGAC License with over 2000 hours and still did not even interview...it matters who you know too.

Does not say anything about nationality requirements:

Convocatoria LAN Colombia | Transponder 1200

I always thought colombian airlines required colombian passport.

hahaha
 

MUY BUENO !!!!

Its not the unios or pilots preference
 

To N1 who wrote about Mexican pilots do not allow foreigners to work in Mexico
N1 sorry but it is written on the Mexican constitution.
To change that would require more than political will.