Gringos wanting to fly in our airlines haha
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Gringos wanting to fly in our airlines haha
I know this is gonna make some of you gringos and non latin americans angry, but guess what? Its callee reciprocity.
I read these forums on gringos wanting to fly in Copa, Lan, etc... are you kidding me? Why dont you stay with your racist people up in USA and fly your airlines? OH wait you don't wanna fly CRJ 200s and fly crappy schedules and get low paid?
For all I know, COMAIR, AMERICAN EAGLE , COLGAN are hiring. There are few others that I cant remember. So why dont you go fly in those regionals? It is not as if you gringos dont have jobs available cause there are. Gringos have ruined the possible jobs for many panamenians in the recent past for example. So now gringos wanna fly in our countries, our airlines? Quedense en su pais.
I read these forums on gringos wanting to fly in Copa, Lan, etc... are you kidding me? Why dont you stay with your racist people up in USA and fly your airlines? OH wait you don't wanna fly CRJ 200s and fly crappy schedules and get low paid?
For all I know, COMAIR, AMERICAN EAGLE , COLGAN are hiring. There are few others that I cant remember. So why dont you go fly in those regionals? It is not as if you gringos dont have jobs available cause there are. Gringos have ruined the possible jobs for many panamenians in the recent past for example. So now gringos wanna fly in our countries, our airlines? Quedense en su pais.
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One day you will be without a job, you will need to go and work in another country. When that day comes, lets see if your words are the same....
What a crappy post you made....
What a crappy post you made....
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Actually , if you would do some research you would see what I wrote. Gringos, at least do not justify them coming to latin america. WHY? Their regionals are hiring, and I mentioned some of them. If you dont want to work when there ARE job openings it is YOUR problem but do not come to our countries and try to take away the job from someone who deserves it. There are plenty of qualified pilots that had to wait just because of gringos in the case of Copa, and there are plenty in the region as well. I agree it is in some cases the airline's fault as well.
Just as you guys ask for green card or citizenship , we do as well, dont think that you can have it all the way you like it. I did see your location is Portugal and I hope you and your friends have jobs and enjoy them.
Just as you guys ask for green card or citizenship , we do as well, dont think that you can have it all the way you like it. I did see your location is Portugal and I hope you and your friends have jobs and enjoy them.
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I work in the portuguese flag carrier TAP and I am portuguese. And we have spanish, belgium, italian, Brazilians...flying with us. We welcome them here, like we do with any person who wants to apply and pass all the tests(includes a portuguese language exam - difficult part for foreigns). For them to enter, some portuguese didn't. That's the way it works and that's the way i think it's fair. I think everybody deserves a chance to work in any country they want. Nationality should never be a requirement IMO.
Why does COPA prefer American pilots?
If you think things are good in the States watch
FRONTLINE: flying cheap: special video | PBS
Why does COPA prefer American pilots?
If you think things are good in the States watch
FRONTLINE: flying cheap: special video | PBS
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Oh trust me, I saw that show, as a matter of fact I viewed it when it aired, I like to stay on touch with the happenings in aviation.
I have had my fair share with some foreign pilots, dont get me wrong there is great people, I have friends in major US airlines.
That doesnt take away though the fact that there is people who come to our countries and ruin the industry. If not take a look at the COPA threads ( people suggesting other to go and get the TR and leave ASAP). I have friends there who are crew members and tell me how arrogant and unpolite foreign crews are. For example, how they do not try to even learn the language, come on, you need to talk english with atc, but you can speak spanish with you gate personnel and say hi.
My problem is with those who want to come to latin america for jobs, when there are jobs here ( as bad as they are or can be).
Now when there is no more people down south ( or qualified pilots) and there is a need for pilots and these pilots convert licences, pass tests, etc... then welcome, but until then don't close doors on my friends not only south but also in US ( the case ) since it is the country that has the most restrictions to work.
I have had my fair share with some foreign pilots, dont get me wrong there is great people, I have friends in major US airlines.
That doesnt take away though the fact that there is people who come to our countries and ruin the industry. If not take a look at the COPA threads ( people suggesting other to go and get the TR and leave ASAP). I have friends there who are crew members and tell me how arrogant and unpolite foreign crews are. For example, how they do not try to even learn the language, come on, you need to talk english with atc, but you can speak spanish with you gate personnel and say hi.
My problem is with those who want to come to latin america for jobs, when there are jobs here ( as bad as they are or can be).
Now when there is no more people down south ( or qualified pilots) and there is a need for pilots and these pilots convert licences, pass tests, etc... then welcome, but until then don't close doors on my friends not only south but also in US ( the case ) since it is the country that has the most restrictions to work.
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If your from Panama.....
I was born alot further south then you were.
Frankly I find your view as expressed here an embarrassment to anyone born or raised in Central or South America.
PS. Don't like Americans? Can they have the Canal back?
I was born alot further south then you were.
Frankly I find your view as expressed here an embarrassment to anyone born or raised in Central or South America.
PS. Don't like Americans? Can they have the Canal back?
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I think everybody deserves a chance to work in any country they want. Nationality should never be a requirement IMO.
Probably the nationality is not a condition in USA and Europe but they DO require a residence permit. By the other hand, to fly in Brazil you need to be a national. Hence I truly believe that reciprocity must always be the rule between the countries.
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In my small airline our standards captain, soon to be chief pilot, and three other captains are from El Salvador. We have two from Columbia and one from Chile. And no, we don't fly freight out of Miami (which really isn't part of the US anymore, even though it is a great city).
Um... What was the posters point?
Um... What was the posters point?
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I see multiple things wrong with your argument. But as a gringo I may not have a right to comment on "your" thread.
1. Comair isn't hiring but if you did your research you would have known that.
2. I would rather fly a CRJ200 for low pay than an E190/B737 for the same amount of money.
3. As of right now there really aren't any jobs out there.... except expat jobs... but I guess we are all too arrogant... again according to you.
4. As for Panamanians who "deserve" a job at Copa.... you are out of your freakin' mind? A 500 hour pilot shouldn't be flying a CRJ much less something bigger.
No one should ever have to justify their employment with a company to anyone much less to a racist prick.
1. Comair isn't hiring but if you did your research you would have known that.
2. I would rather fly a CRJ200 for low pay than an E190/B737 for the same amount of money.
3. As of right now there really aren't any jobs out there.... except expat jobs... but I guess we are all too arrogant... again according to you.
4. As for Panamanians who "deserve" a job at Copa.... you are out of your freakin' mind? A 500 hour pilot shouldn't be flying a CRJ much less something bigger.
No one should ever have to justify their employment with a company to anyone much less to a racist prick.
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Lets see if this reply gets posted, cause my first reply didn't , people don't like reading the truth apparently.
To summarize, there are several pilots that for being too picky they don't want to fly in their countries regionals , but they want to in other countries? Look at what they came to do in Panama, thankfully Copa is doing the right thing now.
I have heard it from my colleagues and not only crews from Copa, foreigners are there just for the flying, at least be polite, learn the culture, it doesnt take away anything to do so.
Why should the rest of the world or at least latin america be open towards foreign pilots (majorly gringos) and the US not be open towards foreigners as well? Why should we allow foreigners to jumpseat while, someone else don't? There is plenty of qualified colleagues in the region that are waiting for their turn because there really isnt as many vacants as in OTHER countries. Ill give it to you guys, it is the airlines fault as well for not giving priority in the past to nationals. However if there is no more locals and the airline still needs to fill vacants, then a foreigner , if he or she passes the tests, converts licenses ( if needed to) and does meet the other requirements then welcome, but until that there are a couple or regionals hiring right now up north.
To summarize, there are several pilots that for being too picky they don't want to fly in their countries regionals , but they want to in other countries? Look at what they came to do in Panama, thankfully Copa is doing the right thing now.
I have heard it from my colleagues and not only crews from Copa, foreigners are there just for the flying, at least be polite, learn the culture, it doesnt take away anything to do so.
Why should the rest of the world or at least latin america be open towards foreign pilots (majorly gringos) and the US not be open towards foreigners as well? Why should we allow foreigners to jumpseat while, someone else don't? There is plenty of qualified colleagues in the region that are waiting for their turn because there really isnt as many vacants as in OTHER countries. Ill give it to you guys, it is the airlines fault as well for not giving priority in the past to nationals. However if there is no more locals and the airline still needs to fill vacants, then a foreigner , if he or she passes the tests, converts licenses ( if needed to) and does meet the other requirements then welcome, but until that there are a couple or regionals hiring right now up north.
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I can understand why you are frustrated. Look at it from the airlines point of view, they want the best qualified candidate.
I am also a latino and I hate these evil white people that exploit our countries
Yadda, yadda, gringo this, gringo that.
Was that better?
I am also a latino and I hate these evil white people that exploit our countries
Yadda, yadda, gringo this, gringo that.
Was that better?
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We Northern Europeans are superior to any latin american out there - at everything
WTF
Robert Palmer after that statement now the troll must be you. And some people wonder why "gringos" sometime are not welcome in South America.
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We Northern Europeans are superior to any latin american out there - at everything. I hope that answers your question regarding airlines predelection for gringos.
Beaner? Really? You just had to type that? TOOL!
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I get flamed for sarcastic remarks to an obvious windup?
How do you know I am not from Argentina? or Guyana?
Maybe some caucasian folks take offense to the reverse-racism-gringo-calling crap displayed here?
So now that we have established that...
... Anybody know some websites for finding employment in Latin America?
How do you know I am not from Argentina? or Guyana?
Maybe some caucasian folks take offense to the reverse-racism-gringo-calling crap displayed here?
So now that we have established that...
... Anybody know some websites for finding employment in Latin America?
