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Old 9th Jul 2005, 14:06
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not 100.

89hrs (14 overtime) nets me around $8300 USD.

I think we agree though. There is a range of money any AAI pilot can make.
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AAI GUY.

Could you be more specific about the number of days worked per month to make you salary?
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Old 26th Jul 2005, 17:49
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This month I will fly 12 days and take home 7266 USD. I took a week off this month as well and spent it at home. CDN $ is 8800 ish tax free. 7 days at home, 11 days of at base, 12 days worked.
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Old 27th Jul 2005, 00:05
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AAIGUY.
Exuse my ignorance, but who is AAI?
Where do you fly?
What is the tax rate in that country?
What do you fly?
Sorry. Too lazy to look back at previous posts.
You are probably in the left seat I assume.
 
Old 27th Jul 2005, 13:46
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Brucelee, no problem

B747.
Air Atlanta Icelandic -contracted to Virgin, Iberia, Lufthansa , Cathay, ect..
Tax rate 0%
I am a second year F.O.

Fly worldwide.
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Old 29th Jul 2005, 07:33
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AAI & Tax

AAIGUY,

Be honest, AAI puts a 747 in the sand in Sharjah (UAE) every once in while. Why, because the Islandic Aviation Authority is just another banana republic rubber stamper. On top AAI maintenance is absolute minimum. Some reason why the industry is being ruined (not a level playing field). I am surprised other countries with proper authorities have not reacted yet.

Also I have it from 1st hand sources, some crew don't get home & see family up to 3 months at a time.

Also if you move back to Canada you have to pay taxes on your worldwide income unless it was taxed in a country which is not considered a tax haven.

So be an exile for life with your mucho $$$$, have no lifestyle (no life) and work on a slave ship. BUT don't sell it to others as PARADISE!

Happy Landings!
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Old 29th Jul 2005, 12:41
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744,

you're on crack. There is not reason not to go home every month if you want to. Some guys work a month on and month off. If someone is greedy and wants to be paid for three months straight that is their deal. Pilots here are contractors and come and go as they please.

With regards to safety, there has been one incident of an aborted take off in Sharja that over ran on the reject. The aircraft in question was maintained by LUFTHANSA in Frankfurt.

Taxes are an annual thing. And yes it takes tax planning and a proper accountant. The same as you would need if you worked for CX or Emirates.

AAI is not the best thing going, its not even in the top 20. But it is a damn sight better than most things and I have never been happier. Nothing in Canada , with the possible exception of HMY, can compare.

and btw, I spent most of my paid days off in Thailand. Why would you not have lifestlye here. I go home every month and spend 8-10 days on vacation somewhere with in a few hrs of where I am based.. My life is a paid holiday.
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Old 29th Jul 2005, 21:06
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AAI guy,


Why were you on the far east forum on the China Airlines thread.
Knowing CAL gives you only 8 days of per month wich is absolute crap by any standard, you were on there saying you would love to work there as 8 days off per month would be much better than where you are.

That sounds to me where you are is absolute s....t.
I doubt you are married, have kids or have much of a life.I also doubt you have been at this very long by how enamoured you sound at AAI, but let me tel you something I have learned over the years: pay is only a fraction of what makes a good job.
Days off, vacation, benefits, stability (i.e not contract to contract) ability to spend quality time with family are what count.Sure money is something but when you turn 60 and retire single,childless, no fixed adress and lonely......you will be the most miserable millionaire on the planet.
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Old 30th Jul 2005, 16:03
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AAIGUY,

Don't get personal - too close to the truth?

You are happy in KUL - fine! My reply is for other readers to be careful about the wailing of the false siren! AAIGUY, wait another 5+ years and see how you will like it then...

Other pprune posts regarding AAI ....

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...lanta+incident

Signing Off, 744.
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Old 31st Jul 2005, 14:56
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AAIguy.
Thanks for the info on what you do. Now I understand why you make the coin you do. In reading previous threads, I got the impression you were flying RJ in Europe and making more than an AC widebody captain. Something didn't jive. Good for you for enjoying what you do. Just one thing, I'm willing to bet you will not retire at AAI. See, that's the point people are trying to make to you. You've chosen to live life out of a suitcase. It can't last forever.
 
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Re China:

Week after I wrote that AAI gave me an apartment and a $3000 a month raise. I declined CAL as per the other posts on the subject. Retire here? Maybe, but likely, I will do my upgrade here in the next 6 months, spend about 1000 getting B747 command and apply to Singapore as a Capt.

AAI is not Air Canada, the lifestlye is worse, no doubt. But the money is way better and when your are 35 years or less, its money that counts.

I just bought a second property in BC to rent out.
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Old 3rd Aug 2005, 16:08
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1000 hours PIC 747 to be captain at SIN?

Dream on...
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Old 4th Aug 2005, 21:55
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See their ad, 1000 on type.

http://www.siacargo.com/First%20Offi...0positions.pdf

That with another 2000 as FO on the B747 should be competive.
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Feedback please,

Just learned from a Family member in finance that SAG has purchased a substantial amount of ground equipment, high 7 figure range. Could someone on the West Coast share if they are gearing up for a launch.

No bashing, just facts please!
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Old 16th Oct 2006, 18:39
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Hey AAI.

Just for the record...all this nonsense about being an expat or not is self-serving and just plain bs. It all depends on your personal circumstances. You know...almost all .. save a couple ...of the furlough ac pilots that went abroad to earn expat dollars have returned to AC now. And I know the 2 I am referring to personally and they will be returning at some very soon date as well. What does that tell you? They tasted both, and made a choice. You may be making after tax dollars more than another dude at your level, but the formula is so much more. When you grow up and have kids...and your buddy is 320 Capt at AC and all settled in...what are you gonna do? Move your kids around all over the place from contract to contract? Or maybe you'll commute to Canada and see your family for 1 week a month and be bagged the rest. You will die young doing that my man. Or maybe you think you will raise em in Thailand? Good luck with that....you know alot of contracts don't pay for education of your kids and the cost of it over there is going to eat all your profits. Then when you turn 60, your buddy who will be retiring as B777 Capt with a 6 figure pension for life, and is already a golf pro because he has been playing all his life, where you have been on contract and already have one foot in the grave. Or....your contract company will phase out your AC when your 50..and because they aren't obligated to you...(employment law ain't so good abroad)...you will be moving again! Or...you medical out...and uh-oh...your contract agency isn't obligated to carry you on that either. As you see...there is alot more to look at than just that extra couple grand you take home every month. Oh yeah...you spend it on your monthly vacations.
 
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Nice post tomatoes..except I have a retirement plan to be flying for another 7years or so, and with all my extra $$ (about 60K USD more than my Air Canada colleagues whom I went to school with per annum).. SO I will punch out with my company paid apartment (600,000) (they pay me housing every month and I bought it) and my 1.5 million and house in Thailand (200,000K )at 38/39 ...long before all my buddies who are still slepping it back and forth from where ever..
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Old 21st Oct 2006, 05:29
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Brucee. Doesn't take much to make more than a widebody captain at AC.
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Old 21st Oct 2006, 15:32
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Startups

Originally Posted by skidcanuck
Beware this type of startup - same thing was "attemped" in Toronto a couple of years ago under the name "Titan Air". The man behind it turned out to be a con artist who was arrested and taken to court.


Well, at least, this fellow went to jail

Back in the late eighties, I had a couple of these bad experiences. In one, some guy showed up in Toronto, coming from BC, interviewing people for a new airline starting up in Vancouver. We, the supposed new hires, were to pay for all the expenses to travel and stay in there for the supposed training. It never happened and the fellow disappeared; on the second, I wasted a great deal of my time and money to help start a new Trillium Air in Toronto. The thing never happened; no airplanes, no nothing. They suspended the "operations" in less than three months and vanished without paying anybody.

So, It looks like this airline startup is a big business in Canada and a few cons are making money out of it. Watch out fellows, do a good research before commiting to these new wannabes.
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Old 21st Oct 2006, 16:33
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Originally Posted by aimscabinet
Well, at least, this fellow went to jail

Back in the late eighties, I had a couple of these bad experiences....

...on the second, I wasted a great deal of my time and money to help start a new Trillium Air in Toronto. The thing never happened; no airplanes, no nothing. They suspended the "operations" in less than three months and vanished without paying anybody.
Was your Trillium Air in the late '80s? Because there was a company by this name that had a fatal accident in 1987: Trillium Air - 12 JAN 1987 - 8,5 km (5.3 mls) off Toronto Island Airport, ON

It doesn't seem that they lasted very long at all, though: CTA Order No. 1990-A-592

Then, there was another company using that name that ran sked services around southern Ontario between 2000 and 2002-ish. However, they too are no longer: CTA Order No. 2004-A-14

I seem to recall a third company talking about using that name during the same period of time... Not a very good track-record for the Trillium name...
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Old 22nd Oct 2006, 09:18
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I seem to recall a third company talking about using that name during the same period of time... Not a very good track-record for the Trillium name... [/quote]

The Trillium I was involved with tried out in 1990.
Yes, that accident happened, but I am not sure whether the same management was involved in that one.
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