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Converting my FAA CPL first to TC Canada and then my FAA instrument rating to TC

Old 10th August 2023 | 12:22
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Converting my FAA CPL first to TC Canada and then my FAA instrument rating to TC

Hey guys. Do you know if it is possible to convert my FAA CPL to TC first and then a few months later convert my FAA instrument rating to TC? ( that is because my instrument rating is not current)
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Old 10th August 2023 | 19:08
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Originally Posted by PilotDimi23
Hey guys. Do you know if it is possible to convert my FAA CPL to TC first and then a few months later convert my FAA instrument rating to TC? ( that is because my instrument rating is not current)
I don't see anything in the AC that says you can't. From the tables in Appendix 1, the CPL and IR are listed separately which appears to suggest these two can be converted separately.

So, you haven't had an FAA IPC within the last 24 months ?

Any chance you can get the IPC and avoid going through the conversion process in two stages ?

https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...AC_61-135A.pdf
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Old 12th August 2023 | 04:01
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That is great news thank you for the information. The problem is here in the Netherlands it's hard to find an N-registered A/C and find a CFII to renew my instrument.

I haven't flown IR for more than 24 months actually.

Since I am moving to Canada and I actually don't need my IR right away so my thought process is to convert my CPL first and then find a CFII instructor there and renew my IR

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Old 12th August 2023 | 11:11
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PilotDimi23,

Understand...good luck with your progress on this.
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Old 4th May 2024 | 17:25
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Re Converting FAA Instrument Rating

I'm a Canadian aeroplane instructor and hold an FAA Aeroplane -CFI-ii that is "instrument instructor"
and helicopter CFI.
I receive numerous requests from foreign pilots immigrating to Canada asking for an FAA Instrument Proficience Check
in order to convert their FAA Instrument Rating to a Canadian Instrument Rating.

This path simply requires an FAA IPC and a short written conversion exam rather than the INRAT exam
and an initial flight test.
Unfortunately, the FAA IPC cannot be done entirely in a simulator and some of it must be done in an aircraft
and for that I use an IFR Single engine to do the IPC .

TC have an application form and after you complete the IPC, , send it to TC with the fee paid
it takes at least a week or more to have TC send a request to the FAA for confirmation of the rating.
Once TC receive the FAA confirmation, the instrument rating can be added to the Canadian licence.
Often its easier at first to get a private or commercial issued rather than the ATPL exams.

Hope that answers the question.
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Old 10th May 2024 | 15:13
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Originally Posted by CFI_CYWG
I'm a Canadian aeroplane instructor and hold an FAA Aeroplane -CFI-ii that is "instrument instructor"
and helicopter CFI.
I receive numerous requests from foreign pilots immigrating to Canada asking for an FAA Instrument Proficience Check
in order to convert their FAA Instrument Rating to a Canadian Instrument Rating.

This path simply requires an FAA IPC and a short written conversion exam rather than the INRAT exam
and an initial flight test.
Unfortunately, the FAA IPC cannot be done entirely in a simulator and some of it must be done in an aircraft
and for that I use an IFR Single engine to do the IPC .

TC have an application form and after you complete the IPC, , send it to TC with the fee paid
it takes at least a week or more to have TC send a request to the FAA for confirmation of the rating.
Once TC receive the FAA confirmation, the instrument rating can be added to the Canadian licence.
Often its easier at first to get a private or commercial issued rather than the ATPL exams.

Hope that answers the question.
Do we need to get the IPC in a multi-engine as well? o just the single-engine IPC will be enough for TC to convert the license?
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Old 10th May 2024 | 18:02
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Hi elenchafada,
Good News,
If you hold an FAA ME Airplane Instrument rating
You only need the FAA IPC in a Single Engine to add your Multi-engine TC IFR rating.
I've presently got an IFR Cessna 182 available.
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Old 23rd May 2024 | 09:14
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Hey PilotDimi23! From what I've heard, it might be doable but could depend on TC's regs. Best bet is to reach out to TC directly for the most accurate info!

Last edited by MathisBabin; 25th May 2024 at 07:38.
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Old 23rd May 2024 | 21:26
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FAA to TC

TC clearly spell out the requirements.

PilotDimi23 does not have a current IPC and therefore must do the Commercial licence FAA to TC conversion first
then the holder of an FAA CFI Instrument instructor can do his Single Engine IPC which
then validates his FAA Instrument rating which gives TC the jurisdiction to convert
the FAA IR to a TC IR be it single or multi engine.

I get a call every few days requesting an FAA IPC single to convert an FAA IR to a TC IR
Hope that explains it.

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Old 23rd May 2024 | 23:55
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Originally Posted by PilotDimi23
That is great news thank you for the information. The problem is here in the Netherlands it's hard to find an N-registered A/C and find a CFII to renew my instrument.

I haven't flown IR for more than 24 months actually.

Since I am moving to Canada and I actually don't need my IR right away so my thought process is to convert my CPL first and then find a CFII instructor there and renew my IR
Nowhere does it state in the regulation that you must use a N-registered airplane.
You need a dual rated (EASA/FAA) instructor to be PIC. Search Germany, Belgium and Denmark for a CFII.
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Old 18th July 2024 | 10:09
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Typically, you can convert your FAA CPL to TC first. followed by converting your FAA instrument rating to TC after a few months.
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