Converting my FAA CPL first to TC Canada and then my FAA instrument rating to TC
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Converting my FAA CPL first to TC Canada and then my FAA instrument rating to TC
Hey guys. Do you know if it is possible to convert my FAA CPL to TC first and then a few months later convert my FAA instrument rating to TC? ( that is because my instrument rating is not current)

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So, you haven't had an FAA IPC within the last 24 months ?
Any chance you can get the IPC and avoid going through the conversion process in two stages ?
https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...AC_61-135A.pdf
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That is great news thank you for the information. The problem is here in the Netherlands it's hard to find an N-registered A/C and find a CFII to renew my instrument.
I haven't flown IR for more than 24 months actually.
Since I am moving to Canada and I actually don't need my IR right away so my thought process is to convert my CPL first and then find a CFII instructor there and renew my IR
I haven't flown IR for more than 24 months actually.
Since I am moving to Canada and I actually don't need my IR right away so my thought process is to convert my CPL first and then find a CFII instructor there and renew my IR
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From: Winnipeg
Re Converting FAA Instrument Rating
I'm a Canadian aeroplane instructor and hold an FAA Aeroplane -CFI-ii that is "instrument instructor"
and helicopter CFI.
I receive numerous requests from foreign pilots immigrating to Canada asking for an FAA Instrument Proficience Check
in order to convert their FAA Instrument Rating to a Canadian Instrument Rating.
This path simply requires an FAA IPC and a short written conversion exam rather than the INRAT exam
and an initial flight test.
Unfortunately, the FAA IPC cannot be done entirely in a simulator and some of it must be done in an aircraft
and for that I use an IFR Single engine to do the IPC .
TC have an application form and after you complete the IPC, , send it to TC with the fee paid
it takes at least a week or more to have TC send a request to the FAA for confirmation of the rating.
Once TC receive the FAA confirmation, the instrument rating can be added to the Canadian licence.
Often its easier at first to get a private or commercial issued rather than the ATPL exams.
Hope that answers the question.
and helicopter CFI.
I receive numerous requests from foreign pilots immigrating to Canada asking for an FAA Instrument Proficience Check
in order to convert their FAA Instrument Rating to a Canadian Instrument Rating.
This path simply requires an FAA IPC and a short written conversion exam rather than the INRAT exam
and an initial flight test.
Unfortunately, the FAA IPC cannot be done entirely in a simulator and some of it must be done in an aircraft
and for that I use an IFR Single engine to do the IPC .
TC have an application form and after you complete the IPC, , send it to TC with the fee paid
it takes at least a week or more to have TC send a request to the FAA for confirmation of the rating.
Once TC receive the FAA confirmation, the instrument rating can be added to the Canadian licence.
Often its easier at first to get a private or commercial issued rather than the ATPL exams.
Hope that answers the question.
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From: Ontario
I'm a Canadian aeroplane instructor and hold an FAA Aeroplane -CFI-ii that is "instrument instructor"
and helicopter CFI.
I receive numerous requests from foreign pilots immigrating to Canada asking for an FAA Instrument Proficience Check
in order to convert their FAA Instrument Rating to a Canadian Instrument Rating.
This path simply requires an FAA IPC and a short written conversion exam rather than the INRAT exam
and an initial flight test.
Unfortunately, the FAA IPC cannot be done entirely in a simulator and some of it must be done in an aircraft
and for that I use an IFR Single engine to do the IPC .
TC have an application form and after you complete the IPC, , send it to TC with the fee paid
it takes at least a week or more to have TC send a request to the FAA for confirmation of the rating.
Once TC receive the FAA confirmation, the instrument rating can be added to the Canadian licence.
Often its easier at first to get a private or commercial issued rather than the ATPL exams.
Hope that answers the question.
and helicopter CFI.
I receive numerous requests from foreign pilots immigrating to Canada asking for an FAA Instrument Proficience Check
in order to convert their FAA Instrument Rating to a Canadian Instrument Rating.
This path simply requires an FAA IPC and a short written conversion exam rather than the INRAT exam
and an initial flight test.
Unfortunately, the FAA IPC cannot be done entirely in a simulator and some of it must be done in an aircraft
and for that I use an IFR Single engine to do the IPC .
TC have an application form and after you complete the IPC, , send it to TC with the fee paid
it takes at least a week or more to have TC send a request to the FAA for confirmation of the rating.
Once TC receive the FAA confirmation, the instrument rating can be added to the Canadian licence.
Often its easier at first to get a private or commercial issued rather than the ATPL exams.
Hope that answers the question.
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From: Winnipeg
Hi elenchafada,
Good News,
If you hold an FAA ME Airplane Instrument rating
You only need the FAA IPC in a Single Engine to add your Multi-engine TC IFR rating.
I've presently got an IFR Cessna 182 available.
Good News,
If you hold an FAA ME Airplane Instrument rating
You only need the FAA IPC in a Single Engine to add your Multi-engine TC IFR rating.
I've presently got an IFR Cessna 182 available.
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From: United States
Hey PilotDimi23! From what I've heard, it might be doable but could depend on TC's regs. Best bet is to reach out to TC directly for the most accurate info!
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From: Winnipeg
FAA to TC
TC clearly spell out the requirements.
PilotDimi23 does not have a current IPC and therefore must do the Commercial licence FAA to TC conversion first
then the holder of an FAA CFI Instrument instructor can do his Single Engine IPC which
then validates his FAA Instrument rating which gives TC the jurisdiction to convert
the FAA IR to a TC IR be it single or multi engine.
I get a call every few days requesting an FAA IPC single to convert an FAA IR to a TC IR
Hope that explains it.
PilotDimi23 does not have a current IPC and therefore must do the Commercial licence FAA to TC conversion first
then the holder of an FAA CFI Instrument instructor can do his Single Engine IPC which
then validates his FAA Instrument rating which gives TC the jurisdiction to convert
the FAA IR to a TC IR be it single or multi engine.
I get a call every few days requesting an FAA IPC single to convert an FAA IR to a TC IR
Hope that explains it.
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That is great news thank you for the information. The problem is here in the Netherlands it's hard to find an N-registered A/C and find a CFII to renew my instrument.
I haven't flown IR for more than 24 months actually.
Since I am moving to Canada and I actually don't need my IR right away so my thought process is to convert my CPL first and then find a CFII instructor there and renew my IR
I haven't flown IR for more than 24 months actually.
Since I am moving to Canada and I actually don't need my IR right away so my thought process is to convert my CPL first and then find a CFII instructor there and renew my IR
You need a dual rated (EASA/FAA) instructor to be PIC. Search Germany, Belgium and Denmark for a CFII.





