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Old 4th Feb 2014, 15:30
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"Aviation Document"

Just sent this absurd piece of TC nonsense of to the "Black Pit", aka 4900 Young Street, for renewal , I hapened to glance at who can verify the photo and testify that its really me. Now, high on the list it says a mayor can do this, so I tried Rob Ford, but he was not available for some reason, so I then hapened to be in Montreal, but all the mayors I knew are in jail, so tried the next on the list, lawyers, turns out my guy is charged with breach of trust and theft of funds from a charity, ah well, Im sure there must be one non -corupt person left in Government, may be Moe, the chef in the House of Commons resteraunt can sign it!

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You could always try and find a Senator with integrity to sign it Clunk.
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Chuck, these days "senator" and "integrity" are never used in the same sentance, I truly despair for the future of our once great nation and industry, we have just been overseas for a short working trip, we may be on our way out of Canada, never thought I would do this but living around Ottawa one is constantly made aware as to how totally rotten our political system has become, i.e.,our Transport Minister undoing all the regulations protecting airports from closure are being tossed out, Why you ask? So she can destroy Burlington Air Park thus the Nimbys will re -elect her!And there are those in TC suporting this so they can retire on a bloated/indexed pension, giving no thought of the damage they do to our industry. The sad thing is the young kids in the industry just dont know how to "join the dots" and what the future holds in store for them. Well, going flying now, have my "Aviation Document" up to date so I gues its safe!
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I am in the same perplexing situation you are Clunk, I also am ashamed to live in Canada knowing the level of corruption that exists here.

I still have not seen one cent of the money Transport Canada owes me for the damage they did to me and my family, and the truth is I will die with only two things to show for standing up to the system.....the documents that prove I won my case of unlawful treatment from Transport Canada ....and even more important to me the satisfaction of knowing I will die with the satisfaction of not bending over for morally corrupt officials....

....Oh and the satisfaction of having made a new career outside of Canada that was far more rewarding than the one I lost in Canada.

Anyhow I don't want to get Pprune involved any further with my issues....

I will drop by and see you this summer when I am in Ontario.

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Old 5th Feb 2014, 20:58
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Chuck, these days "senator" and "integrity" are never used in the same sentance
Clunk, you can make it work if you put "lack of," "have no," "with no," or any other combination of "[something] no/of" in between the two.
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+TSRA, Your point is well taken! By the way, only once was I inside a +TSRA, dont ever want to go there again, they {the airforce that is} scrapped the aircraft , I sent my flight suit to the cleaners!
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I think trying Rob Ford was probably your first mistake!
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Just sent mine in last week. Expires March 1. Out of my hands. If I can't fly I'll take a vacation in the Caribbean. Or Mexico. Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.
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Expires March 1. Out of my hands. If I can't fly I'll take a vacation

Why would you lose time earning a living because of bureaucratic stupidity....fu..em I wouldn't miss a minute of earning a living over something so stupid.
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No worries Chuck. I won't be parking my tail because our bureaucrats can't do their jobs.
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Hmmm... since you could have applied 90 days in advance ...
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Old 18th Feb 2014, 02:42
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Renewed mine at the office in Dorval.
They could not have been more pleasant and helpful.
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Renewed mine at the office in Dorval.
They could not have been more pleasant and helpful.
Same here, Called the office to confirm where I should send the paperwork and a nice Lady answered the phone and confirmed the address and also verified that all the paperwork was in order.
Took less than 2 weeks to get the new one. Excellent service in Dorval.

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Old 19th Feb 2014, 12:12
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Great, two TC employees are polite, but this simply doesnt change the fact that this is a totally flawed document, the only thing it does better than the old system is it keeps more employees at TC.{Thread drift alert!} I wonder how many Canadians really see the stupidity of not only this but the whole system of having ten different drivers lic/plates/health care, and lord knows how many other seperate systems across the nation all cranking out paper work which could be replaced by one national system, thus saving billions of dollars and cutting the civil servant numbers by about 90% . This was illustrated in spades when my youngest at one time when flying floats on contract finished up the season with Ontario health care, Sask drivers Lic, Alberta plates, and her pilots Lic processed by Quebec Region! Mind you, in this area they merged five townships to cut down on staff, that didnt work, we now have five building inspectors instead of one to deal with!
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Old 19th Feb 2014, 15:36
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FWIW, the licence booklet was brought about to comply with a long-standing ICAO requirement. I recall days not so long ago when we were subjected to SAFA ramp inspections in Europe where the inspectors were questioning the validity of our licences as there was no photo ID and even less security features to prevent fraud.

As for one national document to cover everything, be VERY careful what you wish for. I do not want any single government (especially the current feds) having such easy access to all of my personal data.
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Old 19th Feb 2014, 16:01
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JO, Yes "Big Brother" is a concern of mine belive me, years ago the "Master Race" would have made me into a bar of soap had things gone the other way, after it was all over the details that even in a before internet age that they had gathered on us was astonishing to say the least. Having said that if you think that having each province do its own thing is any protection from this I have bad news for you, that is unless you live in a cave and dont have internet, a phone or a credit card or any health care et all. My point is that we have such a bloated civil service that, Like NZ, it will banckrupt us, they fixed it very simply, but they dont have ten provinces who will fight for their jobs. As for the document, having flown in many places where ICAO rules apply I dont think they should be calling the shots, the FAA seems to do it better and are kept in check by AOPA and other strong lobby groups, not so here, COAPA does its best but are outnumbered and out- spent by the Feds Im afraid.
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Old 22nd Feb 2014, 14:43
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I hold European, FAA, Canadian, and a number of Asian licenses.

The ONLY one with my photo is the Canadian one. (Recently expired as I can't be arsed to deal with them).

Sorry, I call call BS.

These expiring licenses are not about a ICAO standard..
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Old 23rd Feb 2014, 04:21
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Out of the Country

For all us offshore brothers n sisters…can anyone tell us ( ok maybe me) how to renew from off shore? Thanks in advance..

PS: Where ya watching? GO CANADA!
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Old 23rd Feb 2014, 13:36
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Best thing to do is call one of the regional office and ask them, all their phone numbers are on the TC website.

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Clunkdriver, we are wasting our time trying to convince this generation that they are witnessing the final death throws of aviation as we knew it.

Most of them were not even born when the regulations were all printed in one small document in plain language that everyone could understand.

And user fees were unheard of because " ALL " services performed by the regulator were paid for from our income taxes.

Transport Canada as become a monstrous parasite that is quickly killing the host body that used to be aviation

How many TC services can you think of that improve aviation??????
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