Canadian ATP conversion FAA ATP

[JJflyer]

FAA to CMOT ATPL

So I understand that to tests with 20 questions each with 70% pass rate. Has anyone done these tests yet and what kind of questions can one expect. I have no experience in the Canadian system. So any help would be appreciated.

JJ

[7E7Flyer]

And I'm looking for study material and sample exams as well, but for a conversion of an FAA CPL/MEIR to a TC CPL/MEIR. Anybody got any information? Would be very much appreciated!

[AIR RICHELIEU]

TCCA to FAA conversions

INFORMATION REGARDING THE CONVERSION OF CANADIAN LICENCES (TCCA) INTO AMERICAN LICENCES (FAA)

Further to the signed agreement between the government of the United States and the government of Canada on the 31st of July 2006, here are the three necessary steps needed to convert your Canadian licence (TCCA) into an American licence (FAA)

These three steps are independent from one another and can be completed in any order.

1) Obtain a letter from the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) verifying the authenticity of your Canadian licence; In order to do so, you must:
a) Fill out form AFS-760 by following the following instructions;
b) Provide the location of the Flight Standards District Office (FSDO) where you intend to retrieve your licence;
i) You will receive your verification of authenticity letter by mail;
ii) This process may take up to 45 days.
2) Obtain an American medical certificate (First Class for an Airline Pilot Licence, Second Class for a Commercial Pilot Licence and a Third Class for a Private Pilot Licence). A list providing names and addresses of all aviation medical examiners (AME) are listed here.
3) Take and pass at AIR RICHELIEU a written examination on air law and communication.
a) You must obtain a score of minimum 70% on a 40 questions exam;
b) Subjects to be studied for an ATP:

Air law and communications, containing specific United States requirements relating to:

• Rules and regulations relevant to the holder of an Airline Transport Pilot Certificate;
• Rules of the air/airspace; and
• Appropriate air traffic services practices, communications, and emergency procedures.

Reference materials;

• 14 CFR parts 1, 61, 71, 91, 119, 121 and 139;
• 49 CFR parts 172, 175, 830 and 1544;
• FAR AIM; and
• FAA-H-8083-25, Pilot’s Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge.

In possession of those three documents, you will be able to take an appointment with your chosen FSDO.

This Airman Certificate (Licence) is a full licence, without any restriction and not based on the basis of your Canadian licence.

All ratings applied on your Canadian airline transport pilot licence (including all type ratings but excluding flight instructor and float) will be transferred on your American airline transport pilot licence.

The instrument rating included on your Canadian commercial licence will be transferred on your American commercial licence.

Should you have any questions regarding this matter, please contact Mr. François-N. GARDES.

[olmshoop]

Has anyone had any success in converting their Transport Canada ATPL to FAA yet?

I named Rochester as my FSDO for my application. I have the paperwork, and I'm scheduled to take the exam next week, however, the ROC FSDO people say they have not recieved their "staff instructions" on how to process the paperwork and therefor can't do it yet.

Has anyone successfully done the convertsion yet?

[MarkMcC]

Successful conversion for me last week!

The process as described above is spot on.

After getting my letter from Oak City, and my Class 1 medical I purchased the study guide software from:

http://www.dauntless-soft.com/Canada/

I had intended to study strictly from my FAR/AIM book, and I'm glad that I didn't. The study software made it easy, and in total I spend about eight hours studying (caution: I do have a fair bit of experience with the AIM and US procedures) the US ATP specific regulations.

Wrote the exam at UND aerospace, and then headed to the FSDO in Fargo where I had an appointment. I left twenty minutes later with the ATP in hand (and no fee from the FAA - as a nice little surprise at the end).

All in all the cost was about $US250 for the medical, software, and exam fees.

[Skullduggery]

This may be of use also, although I haven't actually used it.

http://www.gleim.com/products/produc...php?proID=6117

If you click "more" their description of the process seems to be fairly accurate from what I have read on the FAA and TCA websites.

[singesavant]

Cool, that's great!

Just a question, no mention about rotrocraft in tansport Canada site, anyone has an idea if the convertion from FAA to CAA is also working for helo atplh or cplh?
If yes, that woud be great!


Thanks for reply

[Panama Jack]

I spoke with an FAA inspector at the Seattle FSDO sometime last week. Aparently, the agreement only applies to airplanes. At the Seattle FSDO they've had a number of Helicopter pilots travel from Canada trying to take advantage of this new agreement . . . well, disappointed helicopter pilots, because they were soon pointed out that strangely, the reciprocal agreement is only drafted to address airplane/aeroplane pilots.

[singesavant]

Bad new, but anyway thanks for the information!

At this point, I don't really understand what's the interest for the US to apply for that convertion, cause at the end the proble of the visa statut to get in the US market is still there, whereas it's possible to break the Canada market...

any suggestions, probably the lacks of pilots in Canada?

[Panama Jack]

The FAA Inspector and I pondered the same, also arriving at the conclusion that regardless of what the Federal Aviation Administration and Transport Canada arrive at, the other limiting factor as in most countries is the immigration authorities' blessing, in this case, namely the Immigration and Naturalization Service and Citizenship and Immigration Canada.

Still, a welcome step towards increased harmonization.

[singesavant]

That's for sure and that's better for everybody!

[Panama Jack]

If you want to read the applicable FAA Advisory Circular pertaining to the matter, it is AC 61-135, and can be downloaded here:

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/0/84a724ff35f1089086257245004b35a3/$FILE/AC_61-135.pdf

[North Shore]

That's for sure and that's better for everybody!

Sure, a sea of drunken bar-slut pilots allowed to come up here to drive regional salaries even lower

[singesavant]

Yes I see what you mean!

[Panama Jack]

I guess I know what you mean North Shore, since things are so good in Canada. Maybe when a guy has flight time qualifications that will get him entry-level for Continental or United he can go to fly at Air Canada . . . Jazz. And after 15 years of above-industry average First Officer wages, he can make it to Captain on the DHC-8's.

[themulleye]

MED

I understand you need a US medical... but dose anyone know if I can just show up at a FAA approved doctors office and just get it done or do I need to have a form of sorts for the FAA Doc to fill out and stamp (Similar to the Canadian med set up)

Thanks

Mulleye

[Panama Jack]

Compared to the process in getting a Canadian Aviation Medical, the FAA medical is more straight forward.

All FAA Aviation Medical Examiners have the required forms on hand-- they have serial numbers on them and the actual aviation medical certificate. You fill out a portion, they fill out the rest, and you then leave the doctor's office with the aviation medical certificate in hand. Unlike the Canadian document, it is a "one-time" certificate, no boxes on the back side for revalidation stamps-- when you go for another medical, you do the same form, and you walk out again with a fresh paper.

And of course, no bill in the mail from the FAA months later shaking you down for money!

While there are FAA Aviation Medical Examiners in Canada (there is at least one in almost every country of the world), if you are going to travel to the United States anyways, you may want to check what the examiner's fees are in the USA. Normally, quite a bit cheaper-- I've found them charging as much as a 1/4 or a 1/5 of what the Canadian resident FAA AME wants-- if you live near the border, the savings themselves pay for gas, meals, some shopping.

[Canuck15]

Coverted Canadian ATP to FAA in one week

I know it's sound unbelievable but manage to do so the conversion in 7 working days. Both FAA and Transport Canada were really helpful ...It seems like a long process but if you follow all the steps then its fairly straight forward. Good luck to all of you .

happy landings

[JJflyer]

FAA to CMOT ATPL

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=276210

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=257896

Posted this elsewhere some months ago:

I am sorry not to be able to go into specifics about the questions as I honestly do not remember them. It took me about 30 minutes to answer these and I passed on the first attempt with mid 80's on the points.
These where by no means easy nor was it a walk in the park. You are actually required to have a fairly good knowledge on the CAR's.
As for the Material. I recommend going through Culhanes online ATPL groundschool questions. This gave me an idea what to expect for the test itself and what type of questions are asked and how they are worded. Being totally unfamiliar with the Canadian testing system this proved very useful to me. Out of the Accelerated Aviation ATPL material I put a special emphasis on air law and procedures, learning most of the stuff and then when something needed clarification I would go through the Transport Canada website or the AIM and Jeppesen products.
Get yourself a copy of the Canadian AIM (Aeronautical Information Manual). Concentrate on the differences between FAR's and CAR's. I went through the manual with a toothpick. Before I started with the AIM, I went through the Jeppesen North America Flight Supplement Book. And pretty much learned all the regs and rules for Canada that this publication contains.
All in all it is not easy but not very hard either. If you have a good general knowledge on aviation law and ICAO rules etc and have a good study routine a weeks worth of study should do the trick. But like for me, having been out of the classroom for 10 years, it required some book digging.
Had I known about the Aerocourse option, I would have done what I did and then taken the course. I am pretty sure that this could have prepared me better and I would have had it easier on the test.
JJ

[express315]

Just did the test yesterday at Mississauga. To book a test you have to call 1-800-211-2754 (Laser Grade). Somebody mentioned Buttonville before, but it is not listed on FAA website and when I asked at Buttonville
airport nobody was aware of it.
I used ASA-TP-ATP-07 for preparation and spent about two weeks reading it and answering the questions (after a flying day).
I skipped Performance and Weather sections.
The test questions were exactly the same except for
a few questions which were not covered in the book. Anyway I passed.
I did a medical last week with Trevor A. Gillmore at Maple.
All the info I got from FAA website and some clarifications I picked up from
forums here and at avcanada.ca
I am heading to Detroit FSDO on October 9 to collect my certificate.