Westjet: No injuries when 737’s wing hits runway
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It would appear that I have aided in hijacking this thread. Oops
No I was not at the meeting but a friend of mine was at the meeting and keep in mind this was in 1999 or 2000 not the profitable days they are enjoying now
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No I was not at the meeting but a friend of mine was at the meeting and keep in mind this was in 1999 or 2000 not the profitable days they are enjoying now
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Re: Westjet: No injuries when 737’s wing hits runway
Tan
"Aircanada the most profitable in North America."
Really, for what period? Does this include one time accounting gains, sales of assests etc.
Not saying it isn't so but I've never seen that in the press down here.
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"Aircanada the most profitable in North America."
Really, for what period? Does this include one time accounting gains, sales of assests etc.
Not saying it isn't so but I've never seen that in the press down here.
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Re: Westjet: No injuries when 737’s wing hits runway
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Tan
"Aircanada the most profitable in North America."
Really, for what period? Does this include one time accounting gains, sales of assests etc.
Not saying it isn't so but I've never seen that in the press down here.
20driver
"Aircanada the most profitable in North America."
Really, for what period? Does this include one time accounting gains, sales of assests etc.
Not saying it isn't so but I've never seen that in the press down here.
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Re: Westjet: No injuries when 737’s wing hits runway
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It would appear that I have aided in hijacking this thread. Oops
No I was not at the meeting but a friend of mine was at the meeting and keep in mind this was in 1999 or 2000 not the profitable days they are enjoying now .
No I was not at the meeting but a friend of mine was at the meeting and keep in mind this was in 1999 or 2000 not the profitable days they are enjoying now
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Re: Westjet: No injuries when 737’s wing hits runway
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Profit...yeah, from selling off the Aeroplan program
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Air Canada was not making any money before the restructuring that just took place. Tango was launched as a discount brand scaled down AC version if you will. It's purpose was to get some market share back and It was going to be shut down by the competition bureau but after C3 shut down they figured what was the point then. While it was cheaper to run there was no way that they could compete with any other companies front and back end salaries.
That is a fact. So all AC could really do at the time was to lose less. Look it up if you like.
I am glad we are still hot on the topic.
That is a fact. So all AC could really do at the time was to lose less. Look it up if you like.
I am glad we are still hot on the topic.
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C150 and in limbo.
You guys should start your own airline. You really know what you're talking about. You should call it Big Bird Airlines, run by a couple of guys named Earnie and Burt. Look out Clive and Robert!!
You guys crack me up.
In limbo.
"Air Canada was not making any money before the restructuring that just took place."
Wow. There's a revelation. Was there any major airline doing well at that time? Yep, WJ was doing ok as were all the Walmarts. Wouldn't call them a major though. They did pretty good after the perfect storm. For your info Tango fares are still around. The Tango planes were brought back to the original AC livery but Tango still egsists. After 9/11 there was panic in the major airline industry. Our management took the oppurtunity to start an LCC mentality trying to slash our salaries and benefits. The moto was that the traditional model "was broken". Most of us new however that the broken model theory was nothing more than another downturn with greater effects. Sooner or later we would bounce back. Downturns are nothing new to our industry. AC has survived more downturns than C150 can count. We are now flying more passengers than before CCAA. Did we really need CCAA? Let's just say Milton's job was made easier quicker. Scare tactics and all, he won. But so did AC.
I think it's time to stop solving Air Canada's problems and get back to the original topic.
You guys should start your own airline. You really know what you're talking about. You should call it Big Bird Airlines, run by a couple of guys named Earnie and Burt. Look out Clive and Robert!!
You guys crack me up.
In limbo.
"Air Canada was not making any money before the restructuring that just took place."
Wow. There's a revelation. Was there any major airline doing well at that time? Yep, WJ was doing ok as were all the Walmarts. Wouldn't call them a major though. They did pretty good after the perfect storm. For your info Tango fares are still around. The Tango planes were brought back to the original AC livery but Tango still egsists. After 9/11 there was panic in the major airline industry. Our management took the oppurtunity to start an LCC mentality trying to slash our salaries and benefits. The moto was that the traditional model "was broken". Most of us new however that the broken model theory was nothing more than another downturn with greater effects. Sooner or later we would bounce back. Downturns are nothing new to our industry. AC has survived more downturns than C150 can count. We are now flying more passengers than before CCAA. Did we really need CCAA? Let's just say Milton's job was made easier quicker. Scare tactics and all, he won. But so did AC.
I think it's time to stop solving Air Canada's problems and get back to the original topic.
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Bruce...I'm offended...my name is "Ernie"...spelled without the "a"
How is it that with 95% of the market share, AC still can't make a decent, consistent profit??....just asking...don't jump all over me
How is it that with 95% of the market share, AC still can't make a decent, consistent profit??....just asking...don't jump all over me
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C150.
95% of the market?? I don't think we've had that for quite some time. You're right though, whatever that number is, we still have the majority of the market. There are very few major airlines in the world that consistently make profits. Growing airlines make profits to a point untill they expand and become a major player, if they get that far. This is not an easy business to make money in. I think most airlines are just happy to be in business these days. Survival does not mean that you have to make profits year after year. In our case, I can think of many reasons why we don't make money. Management and cost structure being two of many others. But do we change our structure and become a low cost carrier? I don't think so. I know you find it hard to believe, but for now the company is doing quite well. We've been around for about 70 years. They must be doing something right.
95% of the market?? I don't think we've had that for quite some time. You're right though, whatever that number is, we still have the majority of the market. There are very few major airlines in the world that consistently make profits. Growing airlines make profits to a point untill they expand and become a major player, if they get that far. This is not an easy business to make money in. I think most airlines are just happy to be in business these days. Survival does not mean that you have to make profits year after year. In our case, I can think of many reasons why we don't make money. Management and cost structure being two of many others. But do we change our structure and become a low cost carrier? I don't think so. I know you find it hard to believe, but for now the company is doing quite well. We've been around for about 70 years. They must be doing something right.
