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Get Smart 8th February 2007 23:02

The Pay
 
Without getting into the technicalities, can someone advise what the average take home pay after tax is for BMI crew? Nothing to do with me as at BA now, but still have many friends at Bmed who would like to know. Presuming that eventually, Bmed crew, may have to move onto the BMI contract? I know quite a few BMI crew left there to come to Bmed as they felt the pay was better at Bmed.

On the sale, and those glad to see the back of BA, somehow, I don't think BA will exactly be crying over the lost partnership and nor do I think they have any desire to compete on the Bmed route network. Personally, I prefer to be flying to destinations that can actually be found in the atlas!

Good luck though to the crew at Bmed. Hope it all works out for you. Wonderful crew. :O

La Diva 9th February 2007 10:22


Personally, I prefer to be flying to destinations that can actually be found in the atlas!
Well, it depends how good you are at geography, doesn't it...:p
I have no trouble finding the BMed destinations in the atlas, believe me...
And every place on Earth has some beauty - whether you can see it or not is another matter!;)
But thanks for wishing us Good Luck!
I am keeping positive - until I have a reason to be negative, that is!
Then will just have to deal with it!:) :cool:

Get Smart 9th February 2007 12:39

You're living up to your name La Diva!

crewboy 9th February 2007 13:03

I think you need to live up to your name and Get Smart:ugh: Can't see why you couldnt leave your thread at "Bmi pay" and not start provoking with your little comments after :=

I totally agree with La Diva's comments

Smell the Coffee 9th February 2007 13:38


I have no trouble finding the BMed destinations in the atlas, believe me...
Golly gosh, you definitely qualify as being one of the best geographers in the industry then! :ok:
Shame to see BMED and its exotic destinations go (as I'm sure some will...)

apaddyinuk 9th February 2007 14:42

Well a good few of the current Cmed destinations are operated on BA's Slots and Rights so I imagine a fewof those may come back to BA and be operated by converting a few more 767's to longhaul!

jde 9th February 2007 15:04

paddy I am afraid you are totally incorrect, all slots and all routes were 100% BMED owned. they are now owned by bmi. admittedly a few of the destinations were served originally by BA but the rights to them transferred to BMED under the conditions of the franchise agreement.

renfrew 9th February 2007 15:09

On another thread someone suggested Bmed had all the route licences but I find it difficult to believe that BA didn't retain the rights to their old routes eg Amman,Beirut,Teheran and Baku.
Does anyone know for sure?

airbus777 9th February 2007 15:58

Am not 100% sure but think BA routes are Tehran,Baku and Almaty...i stand corrected if wrong,am at BA also now but did have some good times during my 4 years at Bmed!!Good luck to all.

La Diva 9th February 2007 16:05


Golly gosh, you definitely qualify as being one of the best geographers in the industry then! :ok:
Not really, Smell the Coffee.
It's called general knowledge.
And some of us have it.;)
That's what comes from a good education and taking interest in all sorts of things in life. And there are many people like that in Bmed!:cool: :)

crewboy 9th February 2007 16:29

BRAVA LA DIVA :ok:

apaddyinuk 9th February 2007 16:51

Hi JDE...I wouldnt be so sure of that now to be honest. BA are not in the habit of "handing over" slots (whatever about route rights) to their franchise partners without a clause to get them back should situations such as a buy out by a competitor take place. They are just far too valuable for that.
Also, as for the rights. You will find that many of these are granted by the relevant governments based on the clout of having a service operated by the likes of BA. Now BA can allow a franchise to operate the route on their behalf but the agreement with the governments you will find will be specifically endorsed to BA so it is up to the individual regulators to decide if they are happy to have that changed to Bmed or BMI as this case may be.
Suppose we will know more in a few months, no point speculating now. Especially when too much emotion seems to be preventing rational thought on the subject!

Sonic Cruiser 9th February 2007 18:28

The word that came from the top last week is that BMED own all the slots and all the rights to the routes, so BA won't be able to operate them.

For example there are rights to 7 return flights a week between the UK and Baku, and BMED uses all of these, so BA could not operate even if it wanted to with out the agreement between the Governments changing.

BMED would not have gained any slots when BA handed over the route rights, BA will have used these slots for other routes. There was some clause or something that meant BA had a say on what happened if BMED was sold, but they let the sale to BMI go through with no problem. So there is no way they are getting the routes back in the short term.

crewboy 9th February 2007 19:50

Am I missing something here? and this is not aimed at any person contributing to this thread, but as far as I understand it BMI have bought out Bmed ,it will carry on as bmed until October when the entire company will become Bmi slots, destinations, crew and well....just everything

we just keep going around in circles :ugh: :{


Despite what anyones opinion is on here, we should all be thankfull that Bmed crew have retained their jobs. I for one will welcome their experience and knowledge when it comes to working the New routes for bmi.

Cant wait to meet you guys and gals:ok:

Smell the Coffee 9th February 2007 21:35


Not really, Smell the Coffee.
It's called general knowledge.
And some of us have it.
That's what comes from a good education and taking interest in all sorts of things in life. And there are many people like that in Bmed!
La Diva, I know where you're coming from (got a degree in Geography) and it's great to hear (or read) peeps like you with that kind of attitude...I also applied to BMED in the past but didn't go to interview as I'd bagged the BA job first...sometimes I regret not having gone to BMED first but hey, that's life.
My comment was really a play on the fact that MANY crew don't have any interests past where the nearest Zara is....as most don't really know anything about our franchises let alone where they fly......sad, but true.
Anyways, good luck to peeps at both airlines....

Rimmer 9th February 2007 22:18

Crewboy
I would love to be with you and say what a relief it is nobody has lost their job, problem is i cant.
BMED certainly "do not" own all the slots thats a fact.
BMI - what do they want with BMED?, its been suggested they just want the Airbuses and not BMED at all, if that keeps everybody employeed then so be it.
I hope it becomes clearer soon, i have been where they are now in the twilight zone and its no fun.
You all have my hopes for the future be you BMED cabin crew, pilots or engineers.

La Diva 9th February 2007 22:28


I know where you're coming from (got a degree in Geography)
Wrong, Smell the coffee, wrong!;)
I've got Masters, for sure, but nothing to do with Geography...:p ;)


MANY crew don't have any interests past where the nearest Zara is....
True, absolutely.
And my point was - we are NOT all like that!;) :cool:
But people, who only look for the nearest Zara don't last very long in BMed - after all, there is no Zara in Bishkek or Tehran!
Or at least I think there isn't any - see, I wouldn't know about that, cos I am not one of those people!:)
But everyone has their own priorities and we are all different. And I respect that.
:)

G-MEDA 12th February 2007 17:04

Bmed/bmi
 
Have been a few years with BMed now and although I can see some positive aspects in becoming part of a bigger group, the BMed dimension and atmosphere will be greatly missed. A great bunch of people indeed.

Hopefully we will soon find out what the terms and conditions will be when october comes......:*

Does anyone know anything about contracts, salaries, staff travel seniority, ranks?
Will BMI make us all redundant and then offer a BMI contract? A considerable drop of money for most of us, I suppose.

Just dreading the possibility of ending up doing 4 sectors a day! As for the uniform..... there's no way out! :{

bah.......

apaddyinuk 12th February 2007 22:27

Perhaps it might be worth hearing from crew who have moved from Bmed to BMI or vice versa to find out from their experience who has the best terms and conditions and what they would like to see come from Bmed!

big boy 12 13th February 2007 07:58

bmi to bmed
 
having worked for bmi and bmed in the past i know a lot of crew came over from bmi to bmed but i don't know anyone joining bmi from bmed surely that tells a story in itself

George Foreman 13th February 2007 12:04

Rimmer, you need to check your information more carefully before reporting as fact. This is a rumour forum I know but I think you'll find that you are incorrect. Our information (from the Chief Exec) is that BMED do "own" the rights to all of their slot pairs at LHR. In common with other airlines, we have to use them, of course, otherwise they revert to an "unallocated" pool.

Further, we are told (and it makes perfect sense to me) that much of BMED's value as a going concern is the LHR slots together with the route consents etc which are not easy to obtain. Aircraft are commodities, they can be leased or ordered from a factory (albeit demand is strong at the moment and availability is not immediate, and a particular fit and finish comes at a price).

The bmi Group have taken over a company with a great, fun bunch of people who care about their work and who are very professional and supportive. We fly to some genuinely interesting places and we make the best of our life down route, when we have time. BMED is not for everyone but from skiing in Almaty, Teheran and Tblisi through to barbeques in hot and sunny Addis, our crew are great and we have a great time! Long may it continue..

vodkaholic 23rd February 2007 12:53

hi guys!

i expect everything is still a bit up in the air over at BMed isnt it? well, i have just had an invitation through the post to an assesment day. they are holding them at the end of march, beginning of april. so BMed are obviously still recruiting crew...?

find it all very confusing, but i expect the merger/takeover with bmi will take a while to complete. but not sure i would want to be joining a company that is in the middle of this.

has anyone else recieved this letter through the post?

Location 23rd February 2007 13:43

I know why , 40 Cabin Crew have given in there notice and this is inside info from a friend as most of the ex BMI staff are jumping ship to other Airlines , I wonder if you have to sign a BMI contract if you get the job .

If you do go for interview good luck !!

vodkaholic 23rd February 2007 13:46

Ahh ok Location. thanks for the info! Don't think I will go as I'm totally happy where I am...and there does seem to be a lot of uncertainty with regards to what will happen with contracts etc. but thats the airline industry for ya i guess!!!

japanair 27th February 2007 15:45

Hey guys. Just been invited to Bmed interview as well. Was suppossed to go on 3rd of feb but was cancelled. Apparently its for permanent contracts. Anyone know if it will be a good move?

G-MEDA 28th February 2007 16:44

bmed assessment days
 
If 40 people have already given in the notice (they may be 50 by now), maybe positions offered will be for a 6 month temporary contract in a view to replace the ones leaving....... oh gosh, bmed will need 4 or 5 training courses before the summer! :eek:
I would still go to the interview to see what's on offer.
Good luck.

ex cabin crew 1st March 2007 23:00

They are offering permanent contracts to new cabin crew.

G-MEDA 2nd March 2007 10:33

bmed assessment days
 
I wouldn't be too sure... everything is still up in the air.....
The end of the 6 months coincides with the takeover by bmi end of sept/oct. if courses are held in april and may.

NoodleDoodle 8th March 2007 11:32

http://www.flybmi.com/bmi/en-gb/abou...=2007&rid=1099

Has anyone read the latest bmi press release re BMED integration into bmi. It's probably what most people expected.

I think G-MEDA is probably right about the possibility of 6 month contracts. I also think it's worth going to the assessment day to see what's on offer.

Does anyone have any idea of bmi's planned 'medium haul' expansion? Obviously acquiring BMED's routes are the start.

ex cabin crew 8th March 2007 18:38

I was told that the contracts are BMED permanent ones and more information will be given at the interview. Of course this could have changed in the last week.

Hot-bit 8th March 2007 22:21

Is Rob Ryan still at Bmed.. he is ex BMI?

6chimes 8th March 2007 23:26

are names appropriate here,......for whatever reason?

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exmax 9th March 2007 04:07

I used to be one of the original Bmed crew (have since left), I've been following this thread and it's a sad thing that's happening in terms of lost identity with the absorption into BMI.

I remember the really good old days and thank goodness I have my memories, photos and friends I've met along the way. To all those who still remain, good luck and I hope that everything works out for you.

exmax.

La Diva 9th March 2007 11:32

Thanks, exmax...
We had it good at BMed for many years - excellent wage packets for not that much work and interesting destinations, but - as a friend of mine says - Change is the only constant...
Will see what the future brings. I am remaining positive .
For now.:)

Location 16th March 2007 10:26

Cabin Crew.
 
There is Vacancies for Cabin Crew :
http://www.aviationjobsearch.com/emp...78&vacID=68342

What a weird place to be if you had to join as crew for the summer your BMED crew then your BMI crew .

wannabeingoal 18th March 2007 01:50

The other thing AJS ad states is that the crew are needed to fly our EUROPEAN and world routes. A sign of things to come perhaps.

arewehomeyet 19th March 2007 15:07

New Crew
 
Hello All

I'm new to this website so bear with me if I repeat anything that's already been said. I've always flown charter and tried a few times to get into BMED without any success. Anyway I stopped flying in 2004 but a few weeks ago it really hit how much I missed it, so sent my cv to BMED and got an invitation to one of their assessments days (29th April, if anyone else is going that date, I'd love to tag along with you). However I'm reading all these threads and it's worrying me, I'm based in the North East and the advantage of BMED was that I could stay here and commute, however if it's all going to become BMI it may be that I have to do short haul and relocate which is something I don't really want to do.

Does anyone know if this is likely to happen

737319320321 19th March 2007 17:17

Whats happening to BMED
 
Hey arewehomeyet, Actually, no one knowswhats gonna happen, not even the managers, gonna have to wait and see what the new cheifs want to do, at the moment, loads of crew are leaving BMED, and till October they'll still be needing crew. Im sure if you apply, your job would be safe. I'm assuming the people who put out the advert for crew thought it would be safe to say that you'd be flying world wide and European routes, because as I before mentioned........no body knows... Im hanging on, gonna wait and see what happens. We work with a great bunch of people, and I know lots who are staying. Im ignoring what every ones been saying will find out for my self. If I dont like whats happened after October, then I'll go elsewhere. But go to the open day and see what they have to say. you never know. Lets be positive +++:ok:

arewehomeyet 19th March 2007 19:14

You're right, I'm running before I can walk, need to get the job first :p

Sweetmissy 21st March 2007 14:19

Tell me about BMED?
 
Hey guys,

I've been reading through so many posts on BMED, some negative and yet so many positive ones.. it 's good to see that although BMED have had it hard lately, so many of you are sticking with it!!!! it must be good!!

I've got an assessment day on Sunday with BMED, pls can any of you lovelies give me some tips??

Smiles x :ok:


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