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I am really hoping any of the crews working for EAL can throw some light onto my questions. I have an interview down in Bournemouth next week. BUT!!! have heard some pretty unsavoury rumours about the company, have been told that the crews are really unhappy and leaving by the dozens, the salary and flight pay - leave a lot to be desired?!?! Crews are sitting for weeks on end on stand-by and this is making their salary dire!
I will have to travel down from Newcastle for this interview and it's a long way to go if all is not as it seems!
Help?!?!?! Please throw some true facts on how it is...
I will have to travel down from Newcastle for this interview and it's a long way to go if all is not as it seems!
Help?!?!?! Please throw some true facts on how it is...
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Hello! 
I have a good friend that is working for European on the long haul B747-200's and he says that it isn't that good unfortunately! It is alot of min rest when night stopping, the crews aren't very happy and that the money is very low! Also the crew is bonded for a couple of months due to the training and uniform costs etc! I did apply to them but as yet, haven't heard anything back from them !! I applied about 3 months ago!!!!
Hope this helps!!!
I have a good friend that is working for European on the long haul B747-200's and he says that it isn't that good unfortunately! It is alot of min rest when night stopping, the crews aren't very happy and that the money is very low! Also the crew is bonded for a couple of months due to the training and uniform costs etc! I did apply to them but as yet, haven't heard anything back from them !! I applied about 3 months ago!!!!
Hope this helps!!!
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The money is lousy - £8000 pa and £1.50 per duty hour (after tax - breakfast is paid for). Work has been slack but flying is now starting to pick up. Most of the recent work has been min rest. Plenty of long (4/5 night) trips coming soon e.g. Bermuda, Jamaica and the Seychelles. A few crew have left, but not dozens. Lots of positioning by air and road. Bases to be LGW and MAN, but company base is Bournemouth. Trying to do the job from Newcastle would not work.
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Friend of mine works for them and is pretty disgusted by the going's on their.
Money is 8500 Jnr 9800 Psr (although some on 13000) IFD 16000 flight pay £1.67 per duty hour 2 p/cent bar commission.
Yes my friend has had loads of stbys and done a few flights but mostly stbys seems they get called by rostering when their on days off and after their stbys for crew changes. Some dont answer their phones etc
The head bag for the 747 has been nick named the Grim Reaper by the crew as she seems to be a bit of a nutter. She has her little favourites and they call or text her with whats being said and done on the line, which does not seem to be very professional on her part. Also her little favourites seem to be the ones who are getting promoted. one guy 21 yrs old and having done one season promoted to purser another 7 1/2 months experience the same lots of crew with loads more experience not getting anywhere cause they wont stitch up their colleagues. One IFD got found out to having lied about having incharge experience on the 747 (ie. he didn't have any) and nothing was done.
Seamingly their has been a few good trips which went to the Golden Girls or the favourites and they seem to know about their rosters before their even published (make your own mind up about that one).
Personally I would not touch it with a barge pole or even tell anyone about them if they were recruiting. Seems AML and BA crews went for interviews and laughed at the salary etc.
Anyway seems noddy that your wrong about people leaving quite a few have quit this week and lots more are looking for other jobs.
Be Safe, Happy Flying
The FO coming home now so gotta go
Money is 8500 Jnr 9800 Psr (although some on 13000) IFD 16000 flight pay £1.67 per duty hour 2 p/cent bar commission.
Yes my friend has had loads of stbys and done a few flights but mostly stbys seems they get called by rostering when their on days off and after their stbys for crew changes. Some dont answer their phones etc
The head bag for the 747 has been nick named the Grim Reaper by the crew as she seems to be a bit of a nutter. She has her little favourites and they call or text her with whats being said and done on the line, which does not seem to be very professional on her part. Also her little favourites seem to be the ones who are getting promoted. one guy 21 yrs old and having done one season promoted to purser another 7 1/2 months experience the same lots of crew with loads more experience not getting anywhere cause they wont stitch up their colleagues. One IFD got found out to having lied about having incharge experience on the 747 (ie. he didn't have any) and nothing was done.
Seamingly their has been a few good trips which went to the Golden Girls or the favourites and they seem to know about their rosters before their even published (make your own mind up about that one).
Personally I would not touch it with a barge pole or even tell anyone about them if they were recruiting. Seems AML and BA crews went for interviews and laughed at the salary etc.
Anyway seems noddy that your wrong about people leaving quite a few have quit this week and lots more are looking for other jobs.
Be Safe, Happy Flying
The FO coming home now so gotta go
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Just to fill in all those people wondering about EAL. I work for them and will soon be off to start my new job. All the gossip is true. They have a cabin crew manager who has no back bone, He is unable to make his mind up on what salary his crew should be getting. When we started we were all told that IFD was 16.000 Purser was 13.000, infact some pursers are on 9.600, some on 13.000, ask him why its because he has been overuled by Poison Ivy. or Cruella De Vill. Both the names fit well. One guy has been on s/b for five weeks and only took home £485. this month not enough to keep most people in toilet paper these days. From the course i started on only one person is left. WHY. Ill tell you, they are the worst airline i have had the pleasure of flying with in the last twelve years. And that is only three airlines.
If you are thinking of working for them then you like me need to get your head tested.
Good Luck
If you are thinking of working for them then you like me need to get your head tested.
Good Luck
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Just Heard rumour from my friend at EAAC that quite a few people have just resigned from them for various reasons.
Reasons
1. Cruella De Ville
2. Pay
3. Allowances
4. Certain people getting all the good trips
5. The companies tendencies to oversell themselves
6. The lack of professionalism
7. Harressment , favouratism ,
8. Crewing phoneing when they want to
9. Cabin Crew manager unable to overrule Cruella
10. To save their own sanity.
So happy people thought that you all might like to know this information before you even think about applying for the position.
Reasons
1. Cruella De Ville
2. Pay
3. Allowances
4. Certain people getting all the good trips
5. The companies tendencies to oversell themselves
6. The lack of professionalism
7. Harressment , favouratism ,
8. Crewing phoneing when they want to
9. Cabin Crew manager unable to overrule Cruella
10. To save their own sanity.
So happy people thought that you all might like to know this information before you even think about applying for the position.
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God - it's got worse!!
Well, words fail me: I've posted previously about EAC - I use to work for them 5 years ago, and they were bad enough then, but appear to have gotten even worse.
When I was there: - Poor pay / hideous pursors, (very much into favouritism) / established crew refusing to speak to new crew / crap rosters / crewing calling all hours ..... / positioning to other bases v. frequently, (had to hire a car, and drive it yourself! - no crew bus, etc...).
To cap it all, when people left, they were 'TERMINATED' (the actual words used on roster, (which incidentally, was a 'shared' roster, with details of other crew on it). When I myself was 'terminated', on the very day of termination, I was called out to operate a flight: On finishing the flight, I was stripped, (literally), of my uniform and pass, and told "bye, thanks very much", and left to stoll across the apron and through security by myself. Security then demanded to know where my pass was......
It is a pity, because EAC have the capacity to cut a niche for themselves in our competitive market - certainly, their fleet has improved since my time there, (only BAC 11s then, short haul only). However, until they get rid of some of the trash that serves as staff, and bring wages and flight pay up to speed, they will never shake off their amateur<ish> image, and will continue to lose good and potentially good crew.
By the way, can't quite place Cruella - must be since my time, (or a new nickname for one of the resident dragons!).
If ANYBODY pursues employment with this company, please do so with caution, and don't say you weren't warned.
ariel
When I was there: - Poor pay / hideous pursors, (very much into favouritism) / established crew refusing to speak to new crew / crap rosters / crewing calling all hours ..... / positioning to other bases v. frequently, (had to hire a car, and drive it yourself! - no crew bus, etc...).
To cap it all, when people left, they were 'TERMINATED' (the actual words used on roster, (which incidentally, was a 'shared' roster, with details of other crew on it). When I myself was 'terminated', on the very day of termination, I was called out to operate a flight: On finishing the flight, I was stripped, (literally), of my uniform and pass, and told "bye, thanks very much", and left to stoll across the apron and through security by myself. Security then demanded to know where my pass was......
It is a pity, because EAC have the capacity to cut a niche for themselves in our competitive market - certainly, their fleet has improved since my time there, (only BAC 11s then, short haul only). However, until they get rid of some of the trash that serves as staff, and bring wages and flight pay up to speed, they will never shake off their amateur<ish> image, and will continue to lose good and potentially good crew.
By the way, can't quite place Cruella - must be since my time, (or a new nickname for one of the resident dragons!).
If ANYBODY pursues employment with this company, please do so with caution, and don't say you weren't warned.
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Hi Folks,
I thought I'd try and be positive about EAAC, well someones got to - alright!
I have only been working for EAAC for a short while and everybody I have met at the company (with the exeption of one or two, but life wouldn't be life if you got on with everyone now would it?) has seemed really nice, approachable and very friendly, INCLUDING the affore mentiond "Grim Reaper" or "Cruella DeVille" as some people call her. The company itself is a bit dis organised at the moment but wouldn't you be if you we in charge of cabin services and all of a sudden your boss decides to buy a few Jumbo's without any notice to you! I think they have done a very good job in getting them up and running. As for the idea that most of you have about people not flying, there is a fair amount of flying at the moment, BUT you can only fly an aircraft if you have crew - don't you agree? however that aside, from what I understand and have been told, EAAC have six flights a week going to Orlando, Sandford starting in June, three a week from Gatwick and three a week from Manchester. other flights that are going at the moment are, Martinique, Ghana, Calgary, Minardi Formula One team flights and other flights as well. There are alot of other flights and contracts coming in as well. As for whether they are minimum rest I thhink they vary as to when and where you go.
Money wise, I think there is or has just been a pay review, But if you not happy with the money, you have a choice, its goes along the lines of take it or leave it. Surely the people who already work at EAAC know what they get paid and if they don't like it I'm sure they're big and brave enough to leave. The is a few people who have come across from JMC / AML and most of which seem to be enjoying themselves. The good thing about this airline is people who are here tend to want to be here and have fun at the same time.
Basically it all boils down to whether you are able to live on a bit of a pay cut but have a good laugh or whether you want to earn a bit more and work with alot of two-faced superficial crew who are just in the job for the money and who don't really care about alot else....
Up to you, but I reccomend it.
I thought I'd try and be positive about EAAC, well someones got to - alright!
I have only been working for EAAC for a short while and everybody I have met at the company (with the exeption of one or two, but life wouldn't be life if you got on with everyone now would it?) has seemed really nice, approachable and very friendly, INCLUDING the affore mentiond "Grim Reaper" or "Cruella DeVille" as some people call her. The company itself is a bit dis organised at the moment but wouldn't you be if you we in charge of cabin services and all of a sudden your boss decides to buy a few Jumbo's without any notice to you! I think they have done a very good job in getting them up and running. As for the idea that most of you have about people not flying, there is a fair amount of flying at the moment, BUT you can only fly an aircraft if you have crew - don't you agree? however that aside, from what I understand and have been told, EAAC have six flights a week going to Orlando, Sandford starting in June, three a week from Gatwick and three a week from Manchester. other flights that are going at the moment are, Martinique, Ghana, Calgary, Minardi Formula One team flights and other flights as well. There are alot of other flights and contracts coming in as well. As for whether they are minimum rest I thhink they vary as to when and where you go.
Money wise, I think there is or has just been a pay review, But if you not happy with the money, you have a choice, its goes along the lines of take it or leave it. Surely the people who already work at EAAC know what they get paid and if they don't like it I'm sure they're big and brave enough to leave. The is a few people who have come across from JMC / AML and most of which seem to be enjoying themselves. The good thing about this airline is people who are here tend to want to be here and have fun at the same time.
Basically it all boils down to whether you are able to live on a bit of a pay cut but have a good laugh or whether you want to earn a bit more and work with alot of two-faced superficial crew who are just in the job for the money and who don't really care about alot else....
Up to you, but I reccomend it.
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Think you got a few good points big dick but you gotta remember most people are not like you pilots getting £40000 grand plus a year not including flight pay. My friend who works for EAAC cant even get a mortgate on the money their offering and basically everybody has to live at the end of the day.
Yes they have the orlando flights coming up very very soon but basically they need 16 crew checked out to operate and at the moment they have only 5? And with people leaving what are they going to do.??
Yes poisone ivy (the grim reaper, CRUELLA) does come across as very nice but from everything that i have heard she is a complet psycho???? texting people at 4 /6 am in the morning to find out whats been said on the line is very unusual dont you agree??? Making crew up from junior to purser with only 6 months experience is not very professional in my mind and yes it has been done have that on good word. Also what do you think big dick about her terrorising crew on trips believe quite a few people have resigned this week over her.???>
Your comments are very much appreciated but at the end of the day were all in the business to yes have a good trip but at the end of the day earn some money as well.
Flight deck are in a position to say whats happening to eaac but and its a very big but you DONT see what the grim reaper is doing to the cabin crew from what i've heard she is making the cabin crews life hell and most are looking for other work. If the company doesnt do something about it soon they wont have enough EXPERIENCED crew to operate the 747's.
I personally wouldnt put up with that kind of behaviour or expect any crew to either.
Keep safe happy flying
Think you got a few good points big dick but you gotta remember most people are not like you pilots getting £40000 grand plus a year not including flight pay. My friend who works for EAAC cant even get a mortgate on the money their offering and basically everybody has to live at the end of the day.
Yes they have the orlando flights coming up very very soon but basically they need 16 crew checked out to operate and at the moment they have only 5? And with people leaving what are they going to do.??
Yes poisone ivy (the grim reaper, CRUELLA) does come across as very nice but from everything that i have heard she is a complet psycho???? texting people at 4 /6 am in the morning to find out whats been said on the line is very unusual dont you agree??? Making crew up from junior to purser with only 6 months experience is not very professional in my mind and yes it has been done have that on good word. Also what do you think big dick about her terrorising crew on trips believe quite a few people have resigned this week over her.???>
Your comments are very much appreciated but at the end of the day were all in the business to yes have a good trip but at the end of the day earn some money as well.
Flight deck are in a position to say whats happening to eaac but and its a very big but you DONT see what the grim reaper is doing to the cabin crew from what i've heard she is making the cabin crews life hell and most are looking for other work. If the company doesnt do something about it soon they wont have enough EXPERIENCED crew to operate the 747's.
I personally wouldnt put up with that kind of behaviour or expect any crew to either.
Keep safe happy flying
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Who said anything about me being a pilot? well I can't exactly fly a 747 classic with a PPL now can I, Hope springs eternal though!
They're operating thier Jumbos with 12 crew not 16.
Everone does need to live, and like I said, people have a choice as to what they do. You're friend that is wanting a mortgage must have know what the money was going to be when they started now, mustn't they?
As for being made up quickly, I can't say about what I don't know, but as they are only employing experienced crew I'm guessing that they are only promoting experienced crew...
I things like the texting or whatever happens then so be it, it hasn't happened to me and if it does then I am sure something will be done about it.
appreciate your views,
take it easy..
Who said anything about me being a pilot? well I can't exactly fly a 747 classic with a PPL now can I, Hope springs eternal though!
They're operating thier Jumbos with 12 crew not 16.
Everone does need to live, and like I said, people have a choice as to what they do. You're friend that is wanting a mortgage must have know what the money was going to be when they started now, mustn't they?
As for being made up quickly, I can't say about what I don't know, but as they are only employing experienced crew I'm guessing that they are only promoting experienced crew...
I things like the texting or whatever happens then so be it, it hasn't happened to me and if it does then I am sure something will be done about it.
appreciate your views,
take it easy..
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Don't be unhappy
Don't be unhappy!!!!
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Nordic Airlink have an MD82 at BRS & are looking for yet more experienced crew.
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Hi all,
Just to let you know I've just got myself a job with European, I read all the comments on the site, which were a little negative to say the least, but I firmly believe you've got to make your own decisions in life...
Anyway the afore mentioned 'grim reeper'... was absolutely fab!!! I actually feel she has had a really raw deal on this forum, also for anyone else considering joining I have a few friends working there at the minute who, absolutely love it. The trips are really hotting up from June, the uniform has been changed and I believe there are many changes to come.
I totally agree with 'BD', try getting a company organised overnight when you have a delivery of 5 - B747's suddenly land on your doorstep. Not to mention the next batch that they are currently in discussions over!
Regards everyone...
Miss Y
Just to let you know I've just got myself a job with European, I read all the comments on the site, which were a little negative to say the least, but I firmly believe you've got to make your own decisions in life...
Anyway the afore mentioned 'grim reeper'... was absolutely fab!!! I actually feel she has had a really raw deal on this forum, also for anyone else considering joining I have a few friends working there at the minute who, absolutely love it. The trips are really hotting up from June, the uniform has been changed and I believe there are many changes to come.
I totally agree with 'BD', try getting a company organised overnight when you have a delivery of 5 - B747's suddenly land on your doorstep. Not to mention the next batch that they are currently in discussions over!
Regards everyone...
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Hi everyone.
I've been reading all of your comments with some degree of interest. I've worked for European as flight deck for some time now and despite a lot of what goes on, I really do enjoy working for the company.
Unfortunately, I have not yet met many of the new people who were brought in for the 747 but I have heard many points of view from cabin crew from my own 737 (or lesser) fleet!
Of course many of the gripes revolve around pay (or lack of it) but it is very rare that someone is so disenchanted with it that they are motivated to move to another airline. I think they see a big picture where they are generally happy with the company and the people they work with. There are also occasional opportunities (mostly during the season) to go away for a week or two on one of the contracts that come up from time to time (sunbathing etc) at £36/day allowances which helps to prevent wandering. I've even heard comments of 'I'm working too much and want to go home now.' (despite the money).
Despite the shortcomings (and some of the personalities) there are moves afoot to improve the airline in most areas with Liason between staff and management. There has been a lot of inertia and poor communication in this so far but I honestly believe that persistence will pay off.
I cannot see, however, that European is all that different to many other more established airlines, many were probably spoilt at BA and Virgin. What's the saying 'Same s**t different airline'?
I'm trying to be fairly positive here and I've called it how I see it. Things will improve soon I know. Give the 747 fleet a chance to get up and running and everything will be fine.
PS I am not management and I do not know Cruella de Ville.
I've been reading all of your comments with some degree of interest. I've worked for European as flight deck for some time now and despite a lot of what goes on, I really do enjoy working for the company.
Unfortunately, I have not yet met many of the new people who were brought in for the 747 but I have heard many points of view from cabin crew from my own 737 (or lesser) fleet!
Of course many of the gripes revolve around pay (or lack of it) but it is very rare that someone is so disenchanted with it that they are motivated to move to another airline. I think they see a big picture where they are generally happy with the company and the people they work with. There are also occasional opportunities (mostly during the season) to go away for a week or two on one of the contracts that come up from time to time (sunbathing etc) at £36/day allowances which helps to prevent wandering. I've even heard comments of 'I'm working too much and want to go home now.' (despite the money).
Despite the shortcomings (and some of the personalities) there are moves afoot to improve the airline in most areas with Liason between staff and management. There has been a lot of inertia and poor communication in this so far but I honestly believe that persistence will pay off.
I cannot see, however, that European is all that different to many other more established airlines, many were probably spoilt at BA and Virgin. What's the saying 'Same s**t different airline'?
I'm trying to be fairly positive here and I've called it how I see it. Things will improve soon I know. Give the 747 fleet a chance to get up and running and everything will be fine.
PS I am not management and I do not know Cruella de Ville.
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Hi Guys and Gals,
me again. just want to say, (although I've said it before, but for the benefit of everyone else) Miss Yvonne - well done, you've made a good descision and as long as you have patience, understanding and are not hoping for miriclesthen you have chosen a good airline.
Moneyshot,
I would like to take this opportunity to say, "well said" and "here here"
all the best to everyone and keep safe.
BD
me again. just want to say, (although I've said it before, but for the benefit of everyone else) Miss Yvonne - well done, you've made a good descision and as long as you have patience, understanding and are not hoping for miriclesthen you have chosen a good airline.
Moneyshot,
I would like to take this opportunity to say, "well said" and "here here"
all the best to everyone and keep safe.
BD
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Sorry to be a realist - but have been involved since start of EAAC - they are quite possibly THE worst airline ever, four employment tribunals in 7 years (All settled out of court) there could have been alot more. Not only do they comprimise safety co is full of bullies - starts @ the owner. Management- spineless sycophants & Personnel,Ops Drecr, Cabin services, incompetant, crooked brainless, - history of harassment. No excuses-has made promises since day one but just deteriorated NEVER any improvements made. Cruella new but better than others. If you really MUST stay working for them - join a union (They CANT sack you for it - as they say) The TGWU has experience of them & "Their horrendous catalogue of bullying incidents" Some stories - you wouldn't believe. They are under scrutiny & exposure is not far away - you have been warned. You can believe or not you will see
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I'am with you on that pauls. It has to be a company with the worst case of personel abuse in a so called first world country ever. It's neponistic hierarchy are only out for themselves with promotion of inadequacies. The boss just wants money for his F1 team, which are only there to fill the back end of the grid in any case, and the continuos illegal changing of days off is just mind blowing, how they manage to survive the CAA audits is beyond me. Try getting back at 4am in the morning and there is no hotac for you, ( the company won't pay for it),get in to a hire car (which of course you have to drive), and head back to your own base 1.5 hrs away. On arrival check in hire car, grab yours and then drive another 45mins home. Nice very nice.Safety of personel, what crap. If you are a female by your self, makes no difference. Good job or what
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WOW! I have read alll the above posts and I am amazed that the company can get away with it. Joining a union is the most important thing the Cabin Crew can do... Collectively you CAN all fight the company's attitudes. You WILL get somewhere.
Sounds like a problem we had but on a possibly larger scale. I work for an airline in Australia and we all joined a union. It was a bit of a battle but not too hard as long as the union had the numbers. That's all you need really for the union to put up a strong fight. Long story but we did it and now we all love our jobs. Our employer is great (as great as an employer can be...) and our conditions are very nice (and they keep on getting better!).
Sounds like the size of the company and type of operation could really be made into somewhere really great to work. So instead of allowing yourself to be negative... Try being positive as a group and you will see how far it gets you. Write constructive, mature letters to unions, the CAA and the company itself over the things which bother you (including safety and operations stuff). It will be a win-win situation for sure. Why would you all want for your employer's inadequacies to be "exposed"? Wouldn't that potentially lead you out of a job?!?
It is your employer / company. Make it work for you.
Negativity never got anyone anywhere!
P.S. - Just thought I'd point out that my company was never un-safe operationally - it was just Flight Attendant pay and conditions (so yes I guess operationally un-safe to a small degree) that were lacking and a bit of an attitude problem towards us.
Sounds like a problem we had but on a possibly larger scale. I work for an airline in Australia and we all joined a union. It was a bit of a battle but not too hard as long as the union had the numbers. That's all you need really for the union to put up a strong fight. Long story but we did it and now we all love our jobs. Our employer is great (as great as an employer can be...) and our conditions are very nice (and they keep on getting better!).
Sounds like the size of the company and type of operation could really be made into somewhere really great to work. So instead of allowing yourself to be negative... Try being positive as a group and you will see how far it gets you. Write constructive, mature letters to unions, the CAA and the company itself over the things which bother you (including safety and operations stuff). It will be a win-win situation for sure. Why would you all want for your employer's inadequacies to be "exposed"? Wouldn't that potentially lead you out of a job?!?
It is your employer / company. Make it work for you.
Negativity never got anyone anywhere!
P.S. - Just thought I'd point out that my company was never un-safe operationally - it was just Flight Attendant pay and conditions (so yes I guess operationally un-safe to a small degree) that were lacking and a bit of an attitude problem towards us.
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Well, I can tell you about my experience. Not a great deal, but anyway...
They LIE! Probably nothing new to those concerned. I applied to them when I was desperate (believe me I wouldn't if I knew about it all then), a woman (she didn't tell her name) called me after a couple of months ( ) and asked me if I had a wide bodied aircraft experience (strange, because all of my experience was written in my CV 
). I said, no. Then she asked ME if I KNEW if Boeing 757 was WIDE BODIED?? Very strange lady. Anyway she told me in the end (after asking me to hold the line, so she could consult with somebody there) that they DO NOT RECRUIT PEOPLE WITH NO WIDE BODIED EXPERIENCE!!!
The best bit: I know for sure they have taken quite a few people with no wide bodied experience... very confusing.
But it's their loss as far as I am concerned. Now I work for a great airline. Wonderful, gorgeous people, friendly crews etc..
They LIE!
Probably nothing new to those concerned. I applied to them when I was desperate (believe me I wouldn't if I knew about it all then), a woman (she didn't tell her name) called me after a couple of months ( ) and asked me if I had a wide bodied aircraft experience (strange, because all of my experience was written in my CV ). I said, no. Then she asked ME if I KNEW if Boeing 757 was WIDE BODIED?? Very strange lady. Anyway she told me in the end (after asking me to hold the line, so she could consult with somebody there) that they DO NOT RECRUIT PEOPLE WITH NO WIDE BODIED EXPERIENCE!!!The best bit: I know for sure they have taken quite a few people with no wide bodied experience...
very confusing.But it's their loss as far as I am concerned. Now I work for a great airline. Wonderful, gorgeous people, friendly crews etc..
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shoddy company
well 4 years ago i was employed to work as a300 purser from stn with EAC! we did the course which was for ex flyers and were then told we would be contacted re uniform fittings.
I got a call 1 week later to be told that the company had decided not to pursue the operation as the a/c need new engines and this would cost more than the operation was worth and lost my job!
I had just left a permanant position in another airline and was left with nothing not even offered EAC shorthaul! I was lucky enough that air scandic were desperate for senior crew and was offered a direct entry position on the A300 as i was already licenced through AIR FOyle who provided both EAC and Air Scandic with the operationg licence!
what can i say watch your back!!!!!!!!!!
I got a call 1 week later to be told that the company had decided not to pursue the operation as the a/c need new engines and this would cost more than the operation was worth and lost my job!
I had just left a permanant position in another airline and was left with nothing not even offered EAC shorthaul! I was lucky enough that air scandic were desperate for senior crew and was offered a direct entry position on the A300 as i was already licenced through AIR FOyle who provided both EAC and Air Scandic with the operationg licence!
what can i say watch your back!!!!!!!!!!
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Yet again some disturbing reports from recent flights. The image of the company surely counts for a great deal. Then why did one poor girl at the weekend have to be the odd one out because management had not thought to organise the new uniform for her, which the rest of the crew already had. ??? Is this to be a regular event, or is foresight too much to ask ??
Once again the "purser" situation raises its ugly head.
For months it has been who should be and who shouldn't be and who's face fits and who's doesn't. The politics of it all are totally boring and not constructive.
The company has slapped the main crew in the face by having such a huge gap of £4.5k between basic salary which is already ridiculously low.
Some "pursers" are speaking to main crew with no consideration whatsoever and causing resentment. Is the personality change compulsory ? Civility costs nothing and you earn respect not demand it.
Are main crew regarded as serfs !? surely their contribution is just as important as every other member of the team.
Not impressed.
Once again the "purser" situation raises its ugly head.
For months it has been who should be and who shouldn't be and who's face fits and who's doesn't. The politics of it all are totally boring and not constructive.
The company has slapped the main crew in the face by having such a huge gap of £4.5k between basic salary which is already ridiculously low.
Some "pursers" are speaking to main crew with no consideration whatsoever and causing resentment. Is the personality change compulsory ? Civility costs nothing and you earn respect not demand it.
Are main crew regarded as serfs !? surely their contribution is just as important as every other member of the team.
Not impressed.