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Old 1st Dec 2007, 19:50
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Pilot's pay talks start in January for implementation in July. The Pilots and their union will remain impartial throughout any Cabin Crew industrial action.
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quote: happy flying haha
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I am perfectly happy, I never said anything to suggest otherwise. Did I ?
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You know that your post is misleading and haven't got the balls to admit you are wrong on it.
... so, about that CRM course !!

If anyone takes the time to read the post you draw reference to you will see at no point it says they achieved a pay rise of XX.X% though I agree it could be misinterpreted if somone did not take the time to read the entire newsfeed article. To keep you happy I have done back to ammend the bold to include the pensionable pay text also. Regardless it is still a good achievement and shows what can be achieved by a united workforce prepared to stand their ground (You know, a bit like the pilots did when the company was in a 'CLIMATE' far worse than it is now).

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Old 2nd Dec 2007, 09:43
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Will the Pilots accept an extra month of standby for an RPI increase next July?...thought not...but you expect the cabin crew to!

I have ZERO faith in the current management having this airline in better financial shape in 18 months time.
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Will the Pilots accept an extra month of standby for an RPI increase next July?...thought not...but you expect the cabin crew to
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In your dreams vote No - a few weeks ago I was genuinely really undecided but after 17 years of hearing the same old same old,I am now ready to strike. I'm just absolutely sick and tired of working with an inadequate product (ife, lack of onboard catering supplies, crew and the list goes on and on). I am very grateful to have a job after 2 Gulf wars, however, enough is enough. We've gone this far and can't be doing all this fiasco every yearly pay review - so let's just stick it out and see what happens. Vote YES! I'm sure you've all had similar experiences to my recent full load I/B flight on A340-600 with 4 .........yes 4 crew down. BA would have most definately canx that flight but not us. Well I've done 17 years of bending over backwards on behalf of my employer now as I'm getting older it's time someone else bent a little too to show their appreciation.
Rant over and out!
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Old 2nd Dec 2007, 16:43
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"so let's just stick it out and see what happens. Vote YES!"

What will happen is you will get only the companywide pay rise with a high risk of taking the company down. You have a good offer! Grab it while you can and get a better union rep from Unite next time round!
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Old 2nd Dec 2007, 17:56
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I will be voting no for strike! and will be happy to go to work to help the company if the strike goes ahead.

I think we should take the 4.8% and run!
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Old 2nd Dec 2007, 18:51
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What will happen is you will get only the companywide pay rise with a high risk of taking the company down
Yeah, far more expensive than just getting back round the table with the union for some talks, it better be the next company announcement on ifly seeing as the ballots are due tomorrow and there's a he*l of a lot of people that feel like VsFsm_Oct1990 right now.

I will be voting no for strike! and will be happy to go to work to help the company if the strike goes ahead.

I think we should take the 4.8% and run!
Of course you will virginfun, you'd probably work for free too.
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Old 2nd Dec 2007, 18:55
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"Yeah, far more expensive than just getting back round the table with the union for some talks, it better be the next company announcement on ifly seeing as the ballots are due tomorrow and there's a he*l of a lot of people that feel like VsFsm_Oct1990 right now."

No point getting back round the table, as there is no more on offer.
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Old 2nd Dec 2007, 21:56
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simple then, got my marker out for the yes TICK, if it's the only way the company will listen.
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Old 3rd Dec 2007, 11:43
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Try singing this: I'm gonna be lonely this Christmas, when I have no dough, I'm gonna be lonely this Christmas, when I am all alone...." to the tune of "lonely this christmas" by elvis.

It could get expensive on the picket line.... outside BAA and Virgin land of course.
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Old 3rd Dec 2007, 12:18
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yachtno1 - I can't speak on behalf of everyone, but when I talk about BA, I am thinking about BA Worldwide Fleet. They operate similar routes to us. BA LGW is a mixed fleet L/H & S/H. BA Worldwide, both new and old contracts are still higher than us! Even the people on the new temp contracts are getting more per flying hour when you take into account al there alowances and trip pay.

I'm not sure of the exact figures, but I've heard rumours that BA get £1200 for a Sydney trip, where as we get £440. This is flight pay and allowances all added together. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Old 3rd Dec 2007, 13:04
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No, I don't think so. At the end of the day, I will still be paid when you are on strike. You, however, will not.

So, no, I don't think I have more to lose than you at all.
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Standstead, I was thinking more like "R-E-S-P-E-C-T" by Aretha with a vat of mulled wine and mince pies Sticking together as a team

thoroughly looking forward to it, though thanks for your concern
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Old 3rd Dec 2007, 13:21
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thoroughly looking forward to it, though thanks for your concern
You are thoroughly looking forward to striking?????? Surely not?????
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Old 3rd Dec 2007, 13:44
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capb, would rather have not been forced into it, but if it has to be done I will do it with 110% commitment is what I mean, you are welcome to a mince pie on your way in.
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Old 3rd Dec 2007, 13:48
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I am glad that has been cleared up as I dont think anyone in their right mind woul dwant to look forward to strike action!!!!!
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Old 3rd Dec 2007, 14:00
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Talking oh dear you two

scoobydoo

You are in a very, very lonely place if you are looking forward to striking. It's an immature viewpoint.

strikertworedshoes

loose my job (sic)... do you mean lose my job?

To add ha ha is so petty and childish that it is staggering. You don't know me, you don't know who I am or what assets or cash I have in the bank. Let me tell you this:

There are plenty of jobs for well qualified and MULTI type rated pilots. Like me. I will get another job even if your petty minded, juvenile, crass and immature attitude were to cost me my job.

Come to think of it, six months off, just spending a little bit of savings would be nice. I could go skiing all winter.
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Old 3rd Dec 2007, 14:23
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Do you really believe a strike would ruin the airline?? Get real. If you're not prepared to go that far to get what you want, go back to your life of poor wages and rubbish conditions and stop whinging. Only by being strong will you ever have a chance of getting what you want, but I fear you have already lost and Branson is rubbing his hands with glee at your inability to collectively look after one other...
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