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Info please
Hi,
Please could someone who is currently working for Silverjet let me know the following.
Generally....
1) What is the minimum amount of time you get off downroute?
2) What is the minimum amount of time you get off on a b2b when back?
3) On average what would a main crew member take home (I am aware it vaires, but on average)?
4) What is the standby call out time?
5) Do people commute by public transport from far away? How possible is this?
Thanks and safe travels
Please could someone who is currently working for Silverjet let me know the following.
Generally....
1) What is the minimum amount of time you get off downroute?
2) What is the minimum amount of time you get off on a b2b when back?
3) On average what would a main crew member take home (I am aware it vaires, but on average)?
4) What is the standby call out time?
5) Do people commute by public transport from far away? How possible is this?
Thanks and safe travels
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Firstly, the next two aircraft have not been cancelled they arrive as planned in March/April !!!!!!
Secondly, investors have not pulled out. With the current low share price an investor decided to not convert a loan into equity !
Secondly, investors have not pulled out. With the current low share price an investor decided to not convert a loan into equity !
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HotelHopper...
In response to your queries...
1. Our minimum time down route is at least 24 hours...
2. Minimum time between a back to back is 26 hours
3. Average salaries are very dependant on duties, if you check previous
posts on FDP, and do the calculations you can roughly work out how
much you would earn per trip... Multiply that by the average 5.5 trips
per month, and add it to your basic salary...
4. SBY call out time is 90 minutes
5. We have crew commute from the Algarve, Eastern Europe and Northern
England... Anything is possible.
Hey Vainbone. Long time no speak! Galley FM rears it's ugly head again and people are believing everything they read in the papers. If you can bide time until March/April, I hope (in the nicest sentiment) that the slander launched by the press is proven wrong! I hope all things are well with you!
1. Our minimum time down route is at least 24 hours...
2. Minimum time between a back to back is 26 hours
3. Average salaries are very dependant on duties, if you check previous
posts on FDP, and do the calculations you can roughly work out how
much you would earn per trip... Multiply that by the average 5.5 trips
per month, and add it to your basic salary...
4. SBY call out time is 90 minutes
5. We have crew commute from the Algarve, Eastern Europe and Northern
England... Anything is possible.
Hey Vainbone. Long time no speak! Galley FM rears it's ugly head again and people are believing everything they read in the papers. If you can bide time until March/April, I hope (in the nicest sentiment) that the slander launched by the press is proven wrong! I hope all things are well with you!
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Accuracy Please!
Shame on you Vainbone. Investors have not pulled out. You need to (nay Must) be much more precise and careful when commenting on these important matters.
Here are the facts:-
Quote "Silverjet today announces that TFB will not be converting its £10 million
convertible loan into new Silverjet ordinary shares at 60 pence per share.
As a result, TFB forgoes its conversion rights whilst Silverjet still benefits
from the £10 million loan on highly attractive terms of LIBOR plus 200bps until
it is repayable on 17 December 2009.
TFB said:
"Because of recent market conditions, we have decided not to exercise our right
to convert our loan to Silverjet into equity. Instead we will continue to work
with the company and monitor its performance going forward. We continue to
believe the company has a sound business model and excellent prospects for the
future to become a major player in the global aviation business."
NB: 'Right to convert'!
SJ Share price largely a function of present Stock Market conditions.
SJ will be fine. Wait and see. You have to take the big picture into account.
Well said 8ache.
Here are the facts:-
Quote "Silverjet today announces that TFB will not be converting its £10 million
convertible loan into new Silverjet ordinary shares at 60 pence per share.
As a result, TFB forgoes its conversion rights whilst Silverjet still benefits
from the £10 million loan on highly attractive terms of LIBOR plus 200bps until
it is repayable on 17 December 2009.
TFB said:
"Because of recent market conditions, we have decided not to exercise our right
to convert our loan to Silverjet into equity. Instead we will continue to work
with the company and monitor its performance going forward. We continue to
believe the company has a sound business model and excellent prospects for the
future to become a major player in the global aviation business."
NB: 'Right to convert'!
SJ Share price largely a function of present Stock Market conditions.
SJ will be fine. Wait and see. You have to take the big picture into account.
Well said 8ache.
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Bob gave some AMAZING advice earlier that seems to have been overlooked.
GO TO THE INTERVIEW. If you're lucky enough to get one, take it. Go along and see what the company is all about. I work for BA at the moment and, to be honest, would be mad to leave what I currently enjoy for anything less than FSM/CSD/Whatever at Silverjet and that's why I don't work with the company.
I went for an interview back in Feb of 07 and was offered the job of Service Coordinator. It was a fairly difficult decision to make when I chose to turn the offer down, but if I hadn't been with BA, I wouldn't have thought twice.
The airline is run by a management team with passion for the company and a passion for service. The product offered onboard is amazing - the service offered on the ground is spectacular.
I fitted in with all of SJ's requirements for the Number One grade on their flights but they didn't even acknowledge that when I went for the interview. That annoyed me a little. The assumed I was applying for Main Crew and that was what put me off a bit.
Nevertheless, to make a decision based solely on what you read here would be shortsighted.
Get both sides of the argument for/against accepting a position with this company.
DO bear in mind, though, that with EOS' announcement that they will begin flying to DXB in direct competition with Silverjet, I fear Silverjet is facing some fairly difficult times ahead.
GO TO THE INTERVIEW. If you're lucky enough to get one, take it. Go along and see what the company is all about. I work for BA at the moment and, to be honest, would be mad to leave what I currently enjoy for anything less than FSM/CSD/Whatever at Silverjet and that's why I don't work with the company.
I went for an interview back in Feb of 07 and was offered the job of Service Coordinator. It was a fairly difficult decision to make when I chose to turn the offer down, but if I hadn't been with BA, I wouldn't have thought twice.
The airline is run by a management team with passion for the company and a passion for service. The product offered onboard is amazing - the service offered on the ground is spectacular.
I fitted in with all of SJ's requirements for the Number One grade on their flights but they didn't even acknowledge that when I went for the interview. That annoyed me a little. The assumed I was applying for Main Crew and that was what put me off a bit.
Nevertheless, to make a decision based solely on what you read here would be shortsighted.
Get both sides of the argument for/against accepting a position with this company.
DO bear in mind, though, that with EOS' announcement that they will begin flying to DXB in direct competition with Silverjet, I fear Silverjet is facing some fairly difficult times ahead.
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ah thank you for those wise words 8che
Only what i've been told from "up high"
I did make it quite clear it was only what I had heard I do hope Tfly get rid of those vile flying sheds however I do not appreciate being shot down and told I am talking rubbish.
No go away and play nicely with your toys.
Only what i've been told from "up high"
I did make it quite clear it was only what I had heard I do hope Tfly get rid of those vile flying sheds however I do not appreciate being shot down and told I am talking rubbish.
No go away and play nicely with your toys.
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I hear they are calling crew downroute in the middle of the night and off loading crew downroute to cover flights the following day, sounds a nightmare, anyone know can they force you to do that legally? just curious
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Legal as long as a rest period is not disturbed as this would mean the rest period will start again from when they took the call, for instance if you are on 12 hours rest and crewing contact you during this period then your 12 hours start again from the time of the call.
In addition if your down route on rest and they call you to operate a later flight, and your due a day off you can refuse as 7 days notice is the norm for a day off change, they can not force you to give up a day off.
In addition if your down route on rest and they call you to operate a later flight, and your due a day off you can refuse as 7 days notice is the norm for a day off change, they can not force you to give up a day off.
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In addition if your down route on rest and they call you to operate a later flight, and your due a day off you can refuse as 7 days notice is the norm for a day off change, they can not force you to give up a day off.
Between airlines really depends whats in the contract. Some airlines might have something like that in the contract. For instance like force draft for BA pilots where they have to give up a day off.
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Yeah, it really does depend on the airline and the contract. As long as it does not contradict CAA minimum requirements then it is legal. I once flew for an airline that would not let you leave the hotel before 1000 local time down-route in case of a change. This same airline would also count two of your clear days down-route (we used to have 6 in POP and CUN) as days off towards your 8-in-a-month allocation.
In this case with Silverjet, from an outsiders standpoint, as long as minimum rest is achieved after the phone call, then you would be obliged to operate the change - unless your agreement specifically states otherwise.
In this case with Silverjet, from an outsiders standpoint, as long as minimum rest is achieved after the phone call, then you would be obliged to operate the change - unless your agreement specifically states otherwise.
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I heard the next day would have been standby and undisturbed rest prior to change was disturbed. makes you wonder what they would have done if there was another problem and the change couldnt be actioned, just curious thanks for the answers.
Wish we had these rules in the Private Bizjet world, sometimes phone never stops ringing during rest with changes to flight etc.
Wish we had these rules in the Private Bizjet world, sometimes phone never stops ringing during rest with changes to flight etc.
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Crew compliment
Just wondering if some Silverjet crew can help me. I'm doing an assignment for uni and I have a few questions regarding the service and crew compliment.
I guess there is one inflight manager for each flight. Is this a serving position, or is it galley based? What do they actually do?
How many service co-ordinators are there?
How many cabin crew are there?
I realise there are no trollies but is it still a four corner service from the forward and rear galleys?
Sorry for all the questions but any insight would be big help. Cheers!
I guess there is one inflight manager for each flight. Is this a serving position, or is it galley based? What do they actually do?
How many service co-ordinators are there?
How many cabin crew are there?
I realise there are no trollies but is it still a four corner service from the forward and rear galleys?
Sorry for all the questions but any insight would be big help. Cheers!
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The legal requirement to be 'incharge' of an aircraft is a years flying experience.
In my opinion (and it is only my opinion) an individual is promoted on merit and ability to be able to perform to the required standard in that particular role.
I have flown with thousands over a long career in the industry. Yes, i have come across people who were nowhere near ready to step into a role with that kind of responsibility in such a short period of time. Equally, i have flown with people who have displayed ALL the skills necessary and more. The role of CSD is not just about flying experience, but the ability to manage effectively, evaluate situations and make decisions, lead a team and be a role model.....some of these qualities are obtained through life experience and not just flying.
At least give the person concerned the chance to prove themselves as effective prior to shooting the decision to promote them down in flames. Your 'friend' might just be suprised at their ability and if their not, there are always the correct channels to go through to voice your concerns.
Safe flying to all
In my opinion (and it is only my opinion) an individual is promoted on merit and ability to be able to perform to the required standard in that particular role.
I have flown with thousands over a long career in the industry. Yes, i have come across people who were nowhere near ready to step into a role with that kind of responsibility in such a short period of time. Equally, i have flown with people who have displayed ALL the skills necessary and more. The role of CSD is not just about flying experience, but the ability to manage effectively, evaluate situations and make decisions, lead a team and be a role model.....some of these qualities are obtained through life experience and not just flying.
At least give the person concerned the chance to prove themselves as effective prior to shooting the decision to promote them down in flames. Your 'friend' might just be suprised at their ability and if their not, there are always the correct channels to go through to voice your concerns.
Safe flying to all