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There is no SH that departs on xmas day. However there are some long haul. Last year there were 3 LH flights that departed on xmas day.
There are a few probabilities:
1. You will arrive back from somewhere on the 24th. (Short Haul)
2. You will arrive back from somewhere on the 25th. (Long haul)
3. You will go somewhere on the 24th and land back on the 26th. (Short haul)
4. Depart on the 24th, 25th or 26th for a trip anywhere from 3 days - 7 days.
There is a bidding pack that all the crew get whereby you can choose which flights you'd like to over xmas and new year. However it is only a preference and by no means mean that you will actually get it.
In short you can tell them what you would prefer but you get what your given and it can be anything.
Hope this helps a little and welcome to LGW
There are a few probabilities:
1. You will arrive back from somewhere on the 24th. (Short Haul)
2. You will arrive back from somewhere on the 25th. (Long haul)
3. You will go somewhere on the 24th and land back on the 26th. (Short haul)
4. Depart on the 24th, 25th or 26th for a trip anywhere from 3 days - 7 days.
There is a bidding pack that all the crew get whereby you can choose which flights you'd like to over xmas and new year. However it is only a preference and by no means mean that you will actually get it.
In short you can tell them what you would prefer but you get what your given and it can be anything.
Hope this helps a little and welcome to LGW
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Perfect.
Thanks for the Information 
Just another Questions what is the crew ratio on the following Aircraft 777/737 and are we getting the A320 down at LGW ?
Does the 737 have flop down screens ?
Just another Questions what is the crew ratio on the following Aircraft 777/737 and are we getting the A320 down at LGW ?
Does the 737 have flop down screens ?
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Hi flowerduet - congratulations 
The 777 has either 10 or 11 crew depending on whether it is a 3 class or 4 class route (coming back from Tampa this morning we had 10 crew as it didn't have first class. One cabin manager, one purser and 8 main crew) - the 737 has a minimum of 3 crew which tends to be the norm unless the club loads are higher when you get a 4th crew member. LGW have the A319 but I am not on it yet and more are coming apparantly to replace the older 737's. No drop down screens on the 737 (if only!).
As for trips - well as a new crew member I didn't expect to see the caribbean for ages but have got 2 Barbados trips this month and this was my first month of bidding!
Enjoy!
The 777 has either 10 or 11 crew depending on whether it is a 3 class or 4 class route (coming back from Tampa this morning we had 10 crew as it didn't have first class. One cabin manager, one purser and 8 main crew) - the 737 has a minimum of 3 crew which tends to be the norm unless the club loads are higher when you get a 4th crew member. LGW have the A319 but I am not on it yet and more are coming apparantly to replace the older 737's. No drop down screens on the 737 (if only!).
As for trips - well as a new crew member I didn't expect to see the caribbean for ages but have got 2 Barbados trips this month and this was my first month of bidding!
Enjoy!
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I'm on the airbus aswell and you always have 4 crew onboard the A319.
When you get trained on the airbus you get converted onto the A319, A320 and A321 but to be honest you will only see the A319 at LGW.
When you get trained on the airbus you get converted onto the A319, A320 and A321 but to be honest you will only see the A319 at LGW.
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Hi SuperBoy
After my Face2Face just recently, management are considering even A320 and A321 for LGW, as the loads have gone up for LGW...so watch that space...you just never know with BA
cheers all
L.
After my Face2Face just recently, management are considering even A320 and A321 for LGW, as the loads have gone up for LGW...so watch that space...you just never know with BA
cheers all
L.
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Hi Guys,
AMS - LHR glad your enjoying your EF course - bet you can't wait to be online!!!
In other news - I noticed A LOT of speculation about the offering of LHR EF courses, now I'm not sayign it won't happen - the company have said that before and it still did happen as there was operational need for it and LGW has yet to finalise a transfer agreement for LHR with the TU's but I thought I'd offer some information - This is not rumour but information from an IR day I had recently with managers - they call it face to face.
New Entrants at LGW - we are still short of crew and will need them to cover the gaps covered currently by Titan Airlines Sub Flights and Rest Day Working, however summer is nearly at an end (thank the lord) so I imagine the strain will start to wear off soon anyway.
IAH/DFW move to LHR - at this point we will likely have some 250 - 300 crew more than we need (yes 3 777's on daily flights need this many crew!) At LHR more crew are needed to cover these flights as 1. they get higher crewing levels anyway and 2. they have to have more days off than us. This will result in open spaces at LHR WW and I'd imagine these will be filled by LHR EF. This then leaves a gap at LHR EF and a surplus at Gatwick Fleet, however by March when this all happens, the Ops & Choice framework will be finalised at LGW and (if we all read out contracts correctly) the Senior Crew at LGW should have first dibs on those spaces (EF) before externals - indeed the manager we had said as much and she expected 250 crew at least to move "up the road" at that time.
New 777's arrive at BA in 2009 - Now there is much talk of slot space at LHR and the room it has but the more pressing fact is that LHR terminals are saturated - T5 alone will already not accomodate our entire operation (757 fleet and some Aussie routes will depart T3). Fleet Managers at LGW expect new "leisure" long haul routes to arrive at LGW at this point consolidating the leesure routes there and more business/profitable routes at LHR.
At this point we'll recruit to LGW again I would imagine (if it does happen)
Open Skies - point to point Europe to the states - how will it be operated and who will - if It's UK based crew you can bet your bottom dollar that the company would pick the cheaper crew.
OPS & Choice to be finalised at LGW during winter 07 - at this point we gain the right to transfer, moreover our seniority will be higher than anyone joining after us (after october 06 when we joined NSP) so in actuality if the list for transfers is seniority based, as everything at BA is, you may be better joing LGW now than LHR EF later if your ultimate goal is LHR WW as your seniority will be higher.
EF was only offered externally due to no OPS & Choice at LGW - if they bypassed us when it is in place then the company would have A LOT of angry people on their hands.
The gist of my very long post is this - if you want to Join BA - take what they offer you straight away - I applied for EF got it then things changed and I ended up at LGW - don't cling onto that application as a right to go to EF.
I'm sure at some point some courses may well open up for external LHR - but do you risk waiting to fall off the end of your year? or losing the seniority of an entire year if you are planning on LHR WW?
Both bases are great to work at (I've done them both with BA) and yes the money is less at LGW but this for thought - I net the same ammount each month now as I have learned to live within my means, and at LGW we are a bit "tighter" when it comes to money - but we still have a very very good time - just for less money (got to Holister instead of A&F for example when your in the mall).
The wages are not appaling; my bottom line (ie what I put in the bank) is always around 1500 a month and I am very Junior.
Take the job don't hold out and regret it and don't let people put you off - it's an exciting time at the company right now!
AMS - LHR glad your enjoying your EF course - bet you can't wait to be online!!!
In other news - I noticed A LOT of speculation about the offering of LHR EF courses, now I'm not sayign it won't happen - the company have said that before and it still did happen as there was operational need for it and LGW has yet to finalise a transfer agreement for LHR with the TU's but I thought I'd offer some information - This is not rumour but information from an IR day I had recently with managers - they call it face to face.
New Entrants at LGW - we are still short of crew and will need them to cover the gaps covered currently by Titan Airlines Sub Flights and Rest Day Working, however summer is nearly at an end (thank the lord) so I imagine the strain will start to wear off soon anyway.
IAH/DFW move to LHR - at this point we will likely have some 250 - 300 crew more than we need (yes 3 777's on daily flights need this many crew!) At LHR more crew are needed to cover these flights as 1. they get higher crewing levels anyway and 2. they have to have more days off than us. This will result in open spaces at LHR WW and I'd imagine these will be filled by LHR EF. This then leaves a gap at LHR EF and a surplus at Gatwick Fleet, however by March when this all happens, the Ops & Choice framework will be finalised at LGW and (if we all read out contracts correctly) the Senior Crew at LGW should have first dibs on those spaces (EF) before externals - indeed the manager we had said as much and she expected 250 crew at least to move "up the road" at that time.
New 777's arrive at BA in 2009 - Now there is much talk of slot space at LHR and the room it has but the more pressing fact is that LHR terminals are saturated - T5 alone will already not accomodate our entire operation (757 fleet and some Aussie routes will depart T3). Fleet Managers at LGW expect new "leisure" long haul routes to arrive at LGW at this point consolidating the leesure routes there and more business/profitable routes at LHR.
At this point we'll recruit to LGW again I would imagine (if it does happen)
Open Skies - point to point Europe to the states - how will it be operated and who will - if It's UK based crew you can bet your bottom dollar that the company would pick the cheaper crew.
OPS & Choice to be finalised at LGW during winter 07 - at this point we gain the right to transfer, moreover our seniority will be higher than anyone joining after us (after october 06 when we joined NSP) so in actuality if the list for transfers is seniority based, as everything at BA is, you may be better joing LGW now than LHR EF later if your ultimate goal is LHR WW as your seniority will be higher.
EF was only offered externally due to no OPS & Choice at LGW - if they bypassed us when it is in place then the company would have A LOT of angry people on their hands.
The gist of my very long post is this - if you want to Join BA - take what they offer you straight away - I applied for EF got it then things changed and I ended up at LGW - don't cling onto that application as a right to go to EF.
I'm sure at some point some courses may well open up for external LHR - but do you risk waiting to fall off the end of your year? or losing the seniority of an entire year if you are planning on LHR WW?
Both bases are great to work at (I've done them both with BA) and yes the money is less at LGW but this for thought - I net the same ammount each month now as I have learned to live within my means, and at LGW we are a bit "tighter" when it comes to money - but we still have a very very good time - just for less money (got to Holister instead of A&F for example when your in the mall).
The wages are not appaling; my bottom line (ie what I put in the bank) is always around 1500 a month and I am very Junior.
Take the job don't hold out and regret it and don't let people put you off - it's an exciting time at the company right now!
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when when when?
anyone else out there losing hope that we will ever get a start date? had my interview in May and still waiting! I know ba is a business but I really expected more contact to those of us waiting. even just an automatic reply each month might be nice
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Hey AmS-LHR your right I should clarify as I really don't want to put a negative spin on it,
I whole heartedly expect external places to LHR EF (those in the holding pool with first dibs on this) but my main point was don't necessarily expect it to be soon with so much change or loads if you are waiting to apply in the first place - Hold out if you want to but if you want to work at the company take what your given as you never know what might come later - I waited nearly a year in the holding pool and If I'd waited for an EF LHR external to come along my application would have expired and I wouldn't be working for BA at a time when I think, despite what some say, the future could be really good!
The thing is LGW is NOT as bad as what people say - granted it's not as lucrative as LHR but, for a job as crew, it is still a fair wage to start on and, not meaning to sound negative, if you are young and don't hold any professional qualifications you couldn't go wrong picking it as a first job.
like with anything in life it's getting on the ladder that's the hard bit, thereafter you are already in the right place.
As for someone else saying their surprised I net 1500, well, I do..... sometimes it's a bit shy say 1400 sometimes it's a bit better, however, I self fund completely when down route and don't access my allowances so they all go into my pay packet - I think it should really be impossible for ppl at LGW not to clear even 1000 unless they are bidding badly or not taking into account the use of their crew card to pre access wages (not making an accusation I have just never met someone who earns that little).
Anyway for all of you out there in the holding pool - wait for as logn as you feel you can but in the long run if it get's to the point where your application is nearly over and all that's available is LGW please please go for it, it's really a great place to work.
AMS-LHR, CST those were the days! you'll be on your FAM flight before you knwo it chucking out the glamour! Well we try anyway!
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I whole heartedly expect external places to LHR EF (those in the holding pool with first dibs on this) but my main point was don't necessarily expect it to be soon with so much change or loads if you are waiting to apply in the first place - Hold out if you want to but if you want to work at the company take what your given as you never know what might come later - I waited nearly a year in the holding pool and If I'd waited for an EF LHR external to come along my application would have expired and I wouldn't be working for BA at a time when I think, despite what some say, the future could be really good!
The thing is LGW is NOT as bad as what people say - granted it's not as lucrative as LHR but, for a job as crew, it is still a fair wage to start on and, not meaning to sound negative, if you are young and don't hold any professional qualifications you couldn't go wrong picking it as a first job.
like with anything in life it's getting on the ladder that's the hard bit, thereafter you are already in the right place.
As for someone else saying their surprised I net 1500, well, I do..... sometimes it's a bit shy say 1400 sometimes it's a bit better, however, I self fund completely when down route and don't access my allowances so they all go into my pay packet - I think it should really be impossible for ppl at LGW not to clear even 1000 unless they are bidding badly or not taking into account the use of their crew card to pre access wages (not making an accusation I have just never met someone who earns that little).
Anyway for all of you out there in the holding pool - wait for as logn as you feel you can but in the long run if it get's to the point where your application is nearly over and all that's available is LGW please please go for it, it's really a great place to work.
AMS-LHR, CST those were the days! you'll be on your FAM flight before you knwo it chucking out the glamour! Well we try anyway!
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Could anyone help me with the following
1) How do we apply for CC, I am an Indian, do they hire people other than British?
2) Any info about their assesment days in India?
1) How do we apply for CC, I am an Indian, do they hire people other than British?
2) Any info about their assesment days in India?
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They do have Indian based crew but recruitment is very rare for this and competition is very high. You're probably better off trying airlines like Jet and Kingfisher, who have big expansion plans.
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"Looks like there's something in the works. BA are now recruiting for temps at LHR again. 11 month contracts on longhaul."
I think this was expected - a lot of ground based staff who lost their jobs in recent base closures were given this contract first with many saying it would be offered externally. They always need crew.
If you can handle the uncertainty of what happens after the 11 months - go for it, it's a real chance to sample the best BA has to offer. (If you like longhaul! ) They found something for us temps from last year so nothing to say they won't this time - Don't expect to stay in LHR WW though - I'm not saying it wouldn't happen but I think there is a Union problem if that were to happen.
San fran, Bankok, Jo'burg, Cape Town, New York - you could see all those places and more in 11 months! and you'll be amongst the first people to grace T5.
Good luck for anyone who gos for it!
I think this was expected - a lot of ground based staff who lost their jobs in recent base closures were given this contract first with many saying it would be offered externally. They always need crew.
If you can handle the uncertainty of what happens after the 11 months - go for it, it's a real chance to sample the best BA has to offer. (If you like longhaul!
) They found something for us temps from last year so nothing to say they won't this time - Don't expect to stay in LHR WW though - I'm not saying it wouldn't happen but I think there is a Union problem if that were to happen.San fran, Bankok, Jo'burg, Cape Town, New York - you could see all those places and more in 11 months! and you'll be amongst the first people to grace T5.
Good luck for anyone who gos for it!
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Holding Pool LHR EF and Temp Contract WW LHR
Hi All,
This is my first post on here after reading this forum for months. I am BA Cabin Crew at LGW and have to say, I totally agree with Matts posts. Well said, and I think it is a solid advice.
A bit of info for all the people in the holding pool for EF LHR..... My partner is in the holding pool since May. When he saw today that BA is offering LHR WW on a temp contract for 11 months he contacted BA recruitment to enquire if he would be eligible for this contract. The girl who answered the phone wasn't quit sure, but he was called back within the hour by a lady from BA who informed him he is eligible. Training will probably start in December, but he will be contacted by BA in the next 2 to 3 weeks for an exact startdate. She also stressed the fact that there was no job guarantee at the end of the 11 months but also said things often change at BA (don't we all know
). Further, she also said that BA isn't planning any New Entrant courses for LHR EF until at least April 2008!!! So depending on how many people there are in this holding pool, your number on the list in the pool, or indeed the courses actually starting in April 2008 and the number of courses, people might well miss out!!!
I know that anything can happen with BA (I speak from 3 years experience with the Company), but my advice to people in the holding pool would also be.... go for LGW or try to get the temp contract on LHR WW. I think that in BA we are at the beginning of a lot of exciting change, both for LGW and LHR. So don't miss the boat!!!
Best regards to all and happy flying!!!
This is my first post on here after reading this forum for months. I am BA Cabin Crew at LGW and have to say, I totally agree with Matts posts. Well said, and I think it is a solid advice.
A bit of info for all the people in the holding pool for EF LHR..... My partner is in the holding pool since May. When he saw today that BA is offering LHR WW on a temp contract for 11 months he contacted BA recruitment to enquire if he would be eligible for this contract. The girl who answered the phone wasn't quit sure, but he was called back within the hour by a lady from BA who informed him he is eligible. Training will probably start in December, but he will be contacted by BA in the next 2 to 3 weeks for an exact startdate. She also stressed the fact that there was no job guarantee at the end of the 11 months but also said things often change at BA (don't we all know
). Further, she also said that BA isn't planning any New Entrant courses for LHR EF until at least April 2008!!! So depending on how many people there are in this holding pool, your number on the list in the pool, or indeed the courses actually starting in April 2008 and the number of courses, people might well miss out!!!I know that anything can happen with BA (I speak from 3 years experience with the Company), but my advice to people in the holding pool would also be.... go for LGW or try to get the temp contract on LHR WW. I think that in BA we are at the beginning of a lot of exciting change, both for LGW and LHR. So don't miss the boat!!!
Best regards to all and happy flying!!!
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thats interesting info. I've been in the holdpool since May too and am getting less hopeful each day of getting a start date. now thinking that I might give them a call tomorrow to see if I can be considered for the temp longhaul contract.
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EF Pool to WW Temp
Me too (have been in the Pool since May). I've had a search but can't find any thread, so can any current WW crew please post their roster for this month, so I can get an idea of what might be involved. Many thanks!
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Take a risk or not??
I suppose there won't be any ground to argue if comes at the end of the 11 month contract, not even a transfer to LGW is being offered. Right?
Its tempting but risking not getting a permanent position afterwards can be a bad move esp for people who need a regular income to pay mortgage etc.
Its tempting but risking not getting a permanent position afterwards can be a bad move esp for people who need a regular income to pay mortgage etc.
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If you do decide to take the temp 11 month contract and are lucky enough to be offered LGW afterwards, I believe you LOSE your seniority as you go from a temp to a new perm contract. I am sure that this happened last summer, but happy to be corrected.