Opinions on male cabin crew
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Opinions on male cabin crew
What's everyone's opinion on male cabin crew, do people think of them as homosexual or not?
i myself am straight, but am considering applying for employment as cabin crew with easyJet, but i feel most male cabin crew are stereotyped as being homosexual?
so whats everyones opinion on this?
i am intrested in people who aren't cabin crew as well as men who are!
i myself am straight, but am considering applying for employment as cabin crew with easyJet, but i feel most male cabin crew are stereotyped as being homosexual?
so whats everyones opinion on this?
i am intrested in people who aren't cabin crew as well as men who are!
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Happy and gay
A 747 captain here, from Argentina...
Old manners, old fashion and traditions, soon to retire...
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We have 12 F/As on our 747s... of which generally, 60% are females, and 40% are males, so shall I say, average 7 ladies and 5 gentlemen... I think that half of our gentlemen are possibly gay.
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I have learned to be friends with the gay male flight attendants (generally pilots hate them, I donīt) - After flight, we get together at the bar in the hotel, and I offer the captain's round of drinks, and I am good friends to many of them. They have the greatest jokes about gays and straight people, and furthermore, since I am sadly a widower, they leave me all the pretty female cabin staff for a hopeful romance.
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I also often fly as incognito passenger with other airlines, and I consider the gay male flight attendants as professionals, and capable of giving perfect passenger service. I have no preference, I rather have a gay male flight attendant serving my drinks and meal than a female on PMS...
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It is true, that in Europe and North America, many male flight attendants are perceived as being gay. Maybe less in the rest of the world. In the old days, I am talking 1960s and 1970s, male flight attendants (we named them stewards then) were generally straight, and manned the galleys, while females (stewardesses in these days) were serving in the cabin. Also to mention, the senior flight attendant was often a male, since the females retired early (age 35/40 or so) and males continued until later age.
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The only personal thing about gays as flight attendants, is that some of these "couples" often team together for same flights, and watch out if there is a jealousy situation and a love triangle with 3 of them, around L5 door in the rear of the cabin. Their love life is to be kept "private" and outside the concern of our passengers. I tolerate their sexual preferences, but they should keep their tempers to the privacy of their hotel rooms.
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If some who read me are gay, Gents, remove that stupid gold earring from your ear. Cheers...
For me, "gay" means "happy" in my vocabulary... I have an old dictionnary.
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Old manners, old fashion and traditions, soon to retire...
xxx
We have 12 F/As on our 747s... of which generally, 60% are females, and 40% are males, so shall I say, average 7 ladies and 5 gentlemen... I think that half of our gentlemen are possibly gay.
xxx
I have learned to be friends with the gay male flight attendants (generally pilots hate them, I donīt) - After flight, we get together at the bar in the hotel, and I offer the captain's round of drinks, and I am good friends to many of them. They have the greatest jokes about gays and straight people, and furthermore, since I am sadly a widower, they leave me all the pretty female cabin staff for a hopeful romance.
xxx
I also often fly as incognito passenger with other airlines, and I consider the gay male flight attendants as professionals, and capable of giving perfect passenger service. I have no preference, I rather have a gay male flight attendant serving my drinks and meal than a female on PMS...
xxx
It is true, that in Europe and North America, many male flight attendants are perceived as being gay. Maybe less in the rest of the world. In the old days, I am talking 1960s and 1970s, male flight attendants (we named them stewards then) were generally straight, and manned the galleys, while females (stewardesses in these days) were serving in the cabin. Also to mention, the senior flight attendant was often a male, since the females retired early (age 35/40 or so) and males continued until later age.
xxx
The only personal thing about gays as flight attendants, is that some of these "couples" often team together for same flights, and watch out if there is a jealousy situation and a love triangle with 3 of them, around L5 door in the rear of the cabin. Their love life is to be kept "private" and outside the concern of our passengers. I tolerate their sexual preferences, but they should keep their tempers to the privacy of their hotel rooms.
xxx
If some who read me are gay, Gents, remove that stupid gold earring from your ear. Cheers...
For me, "gay" means "happy" in my vocabulary... I have an old dictionnary.
xxx
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What does it matter what people think of you or your profession? as long as you are comfortable with your own lifestyle, choices, preferences and career it doesnt matter.
I fly with guys,girls,gays and lesbians and to be honest it doesnt effect their service so why should it even be an issue?
I fly with guys,girls,gays and lesbians and to be honest it doesnt effect their service so why should it even be an issue?
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At my airline it is no issue whatsoever, for me personally as well. Our male senior cabin crewmembers are generally easy to work with, both the gay and straight one. Among the women there is a definite difference between the single and married ones. The female senior cabin crewmembers who are alone and in their mid-forties and up, are generally very complicated people (of course not all). I am sure someone could earn their doctorate figuring out this group of staff.
In a CRM course we once had the analogy that within a crew the captain functions along the line of a father within a family, and a senior cabin crewmember as the mother (independent of gender). In the American vernacular there is a saying that states: if daddy aint happy, daddy aint happy, if mother aint happy, no one is happy. I think it sums up the way things work on board of our aircraft. If the captain is an asshole it can be a uniting factor within a crew. The first officer gets sympathy because he has to work in close proximity with the jerk, and the crew rallies as a reaction to the captains disposition. The captain is left dealing with his own behavior. On the other hand if the senior cabin crewmember isnt functioning it makes life hell for the rest of the cabin staff, and the captains life gets much more complicated trying to make up for the deficiencies. In these cases I tend to come home just drained of all energy. This group isnt capable of dealing with criticism, and has very little ability to self analyze.
It is much more important to be up to date on your job, be aware of the people (other staff and more importantly the passengers) around you and how your behavior impacts on those people, and most importantly to be happy with what you are doing. Gay or not is immaterial.
In a CRM course we once had the analogy that within a crew the captain functions along the line of a father within a family, and a senior cabin crewmember as the mother (independent of gender). In the American vernacular there is a saying that states: if daddy aint happy, daddy aint happy, if mother aint happy, no one is happy. I think it sums up the way things work on board of our aircraft. If the captain is an asshole it can be a uniting factor within a crew. The first officer gets sympathy because he has to work in close proximity with the jerk, and the crew rallies as a reaction to the captains disposition. The captain is left dealing with his own behavior. On the other hand if the senior cabin crewmember isnt functioning it makes life hell for the rest of the cabin staff, and the captains life gets much more complicated trying to make up for the deficiencies. In these cases I tend to come home just drained of all energy. This group isnt capable of dealing with criticism, and has very little ability to self analyze.
It is much more important to be up to date on your job, be aware of the people (other staff and more importantly the passengers) around you and how your behavior impacts on those people, and most importantly to be happy with what you are doing. Gay or not is immaterial.
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I'm working for a UK based long haul airline while I finish my flight training. We have between 12 and 18 crew on each of our flights and generally of these there are between 3 and 6 guys. I would say 60-70% of our male crew are gay, but they are a great laugh and most of the time are just another one of the lads! The girls can tell who is straight and who is gay right away and that has never been a problem for me. Don't even think of it as an issue. People will work out who you are very very quickly. You get the occassional passenger (generally some fat lout who is on a stag party or something) who will make a comment but usually I just ignore it, at the end of the day I'm the one that gets to go to a hotel with 12 gorgeous girls at the end of the flight 
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Gay dear, who dear? me dear? No dear!
Does it really matter? At the end of the day, there are people pulling their hair out to even try and get into this industry... Countless interviews, countless rejections. First and Foremost, as long as you can shout orders and get people off of that plane in an emergency, does it matter what team you play for?
This world is riddled with Stigmas about people...
As a member of crew you have to adhere to uniform guidelines, and I am yet to see an airline out there that doesn't state on it's application criteria, "you must be well presented and maintain a well groomed appearance" Until recently, Gay Men were at the forefront of this (supposedly)... what with men now becoming 'meterosexual' and taking a little pride in their skin, hair etc... they fit the bill quite easily...
Forget the labels... "Hi, I'm Bob and I'll be your crew member today..." have you ever had a stewie come up to you and say... "Hi, I'm .... I'm gay, and I'm your crew member!"
You are there for the safety of your passengers and your fellow crew members... At EZY, staying down route is not likely, and if another crew member thinks you are... just tell them you're not, it really is that simple.
And as for the passengers on board, you are not living your day to day life with them. So what does it matter what they think of you. As long as you have done your job, and they have got off that aircraft happy... whats the difference?
The only labels cabin crew should have to deal with are Gucci, Prada, Fendi and similar haha!
This world is riddled with Stigmas about people...
As a member of crew you have to adhere to uniform guidelines, and I am yet to see an airline out there that doesn't state on it's application criteria, "you must be well presented and maintain a well groomed appearance" Until recently, Gay Men were at the forefront of this (supposedly)... what with men now becoming 'meterosexual' and taking a little pride in their skin, hair etc... they fit the bill quite easily...
Forget the labels... "Hi, I'm Bob and I'll be your crew member today..." have you ever had a stewie come up to you and say... "Hi, I'm .... I'm gay, and I'm your crew member!"
You are there for the safety of your passengers and your fellow crew members... At EZY, staying down route is not likely, and if another crew member thinks you are... just tell them you're not, it really is that simple.
And as for the passengers on board, you are not living your day to day life with them. So what does it matter what they think of you. As long as you have done your job, and they have got off that aircraft happy... whats the difference?
The only labels cabin crew should have to deal with are Gucci, Prada, Fendi and similar haha!
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We have loads of straight male stewies. Most of them say it's the best way to find a bird cause they are surrounded by hosties.
Does it really matter what people think?? If it's something you have always wanted to do and dont mind giving up your fri and sat nights then go for it
Does it really matter what people think?? If it's something you have always wanted to do and dont mind giving up your fri and sat nights then go for it
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I'm a straight male f/a, and couldnt give a sh*t what people think I am!
If you like the job, and want it enough, it shouldnt bother you! The % of gay vs. straight male f/a's depends from airline to airline.
If you like the job, and want it enough, it shouldnt bother you! The % of gay vs. straight male f/a's depends from airline to airline.
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Homer does it really matter what your sexual preference is? Is it more to do with what your mates might think? Mum and dad might be a bit dissapointed that there son isnt in a rough tough occupation!! Well it doesnt matter one little bit.I am a straight guy, Purser with a large airline and dont give a damn what others think. just because your on an aircraft doesnt mean that You are gay.How many times a day do you think you get checked out by other guys in the job your in now? its no different! dont you think that the girls dont get checked out by other women on the aircraft ,of course they do! laugh it off ,take it as a compliment that someone finds you attractive!! would it be the end of the world if heavens above, a guy chatted you up in the galley ? have had that done to me loads of times hasnt made me gay!!!! and yes i have a trolley bag that i wheel and dont carry, well its heavy!!!! my point is its all about attitude other peoples that is ,if someone wants to look at me onboard and percieve that i am gay well thats there perogative its not gonna affect the way i deal with them onboard the aircraft, looking at the name you chose for this forum are you sure you dont want to step out of the onboard wardrobe? or did you choose it as a bit of a mickey take, cos if you did maybe life in the cabin is not for you.
Homer,
you obviously have a certain level of homophobia to even make this a concern. Therefore you are probably looking at the wrong profession because as a flight attendant you will come across colleagues from all walks of life
you obviously have a certain level of homophobia to even make this a concern. Therefore you are probably looking at the wrong profession because as a flight attendant you will come across colleagues from all walks of life
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Being married too, and actually working in same airline as my CC wife, I have a unique perspective of getting both sides of the argument, or should that be, from both sides of the flight deck door.
My wife tells me that in regards to cabin crew, she would much rather work with straight guys, and socialize with gay guys. The reason she has this preference is that straight guys tend to prefer to get on with the job, whilst the gay guys would rather do anything but get on with the job. The worst work experience she has had was when an entire Crew other than her and the pilots were gay, which resulted in so much bitching and moaning that the crew barely functioned, much to the detriment of the service offered to the passengers. It later transpired that it was Mardi'gra at their overnight and they all wanted to get off to go, so much so that my wife was left at the airport terminal as the gaggle of gay guys in their haste had left for the hotel without her.
My experience is that I have no preference either way, I am polite and respectful, and I treat people in a way that I would expect to be treated.
My wife tells me that in regards to cabin crew, she would much rather work with straight guys, and socialize with gay guys. The reason she has this preference is that straight guys tend to prefer to get on with the job, whilst the gay guys would rather do anything but get on with the job. The worst work experience she has had was when an entire Crew other than her and the pilots were gay, which resulted in so much bitching and moaning that the crew barely functioned, much to the detriment of the service offered to the passengers. It later transpired that it was Mardi'gra at their overnight and they all wanted to get off to go, so much so that my wife was left at the airport terminal as the gaggle of gay guys in their haste had left for the hotel without her.
My experience is that I have no preference either way, I am polite and respectful, and I treat people in a way that I would expect to be treated.
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flitegirl....I'm not sure what you are going with this but generally I work with people whether they are straight ,gay or somewhere in between.
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I work for a an airline in the gulf so we have more straight boys. We do have our fair share of gay ones though. It makes me laugh when all the straight boys are shocked at how many gay guys we do have here. I tell them if they were in the west they would most definately be outnumbered.
I prefer to work with men straight or gay. THere is less bitchiness and alot more smutty galley talk. Mind you some straight guys really don't react well being told what to do by a female galley or purser.
I prefer to work with men straight or gay. THere is less bitchiness and alot more smutty galley talk. Mind you some straight guys really don't react well being told what to do by a female galley or purser.
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I too am Gay, but generally percieved as being Straight! The funniest bit is I actually get hit on by chicks onboard more often than I do by guys... So the point is, its not about the job - its about the person. At the end of the day, as echoed by most other posters, its irrelevant to anyone else - if its going to be an issue, it will only be an issue with you.
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atyourcervix73,
unlike your wife, i hate to work with a crew full of straight male FAs, as a lot of them are lazy as, just want to check out pretty chicks on board, chat them up and hopefully get lucky; not all of them, but a good percentage of them, lazy buggers, nothing gets done. Gay guys can surely be bitchy, but what about girls? You want to talk about girly bitchiness, OMG, don't even start! Most of our best galley operators are gay boys, pretty damn good, and I'm proud to be one of them. At the end of the day, we're all there because we love the job, who cares about your sexual preference?
unlike your wife, i hate to work with a crew full of straight male FAs, as a lot of them are lazy as, just want to check out pretty chicks on board, chat them up and hopefully get lucky; not all of them, but a good percentage of them, lazy buggers, nothing gets done. Gay guys can surely be bitchy, but what about girls? You want to talk about girly bitchiness, OMG, don't even start! Most of our best galley operators are gay boys, pretty damn good, and I'm proud to be one of them. At the end of the day, we're all there because we love the job, who cares about your sexual preference?