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Old 15th Sep 2007, 13:51
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Interesting mistake if it is true

If this mistake is true pretty bad on behalf of Tiger to reveal their new routes,
I bet you the moment they announce new route to Canberra, DJ and QF will pounce. How stupid Tiger!
I do think they would make heaps of money on that route, a good choice

3 out of 10 A/C

yes your calculations of 3 are about right, Tiger only starting with 5 A/C, nothing has been confirmed for more

Still think it is wishful thinking, where will they get the A320's from?
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Old 16th Sep 2007, 04:15
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Somehow I don't think fares would be $19.95 or $29.95 Milocole. If they offered fares below taxes and charges they would last much less than the year I have given it. JQ and DJ can do that because they have very deep pockets. Tiger has empty pockets at the moment as it has only been given $10 million for start up. This is virtually nothing! I'm told that Tiger is on such a budget that they don't even do 3-4 stage interviews for Crew as it costs too much time and too much time is too much money. Also told that their office is a shoe box that looks like something out of a movie scene in The Bronx. $10 million for a new airline in a new country is pocket money. Sources have told me that Tiger are very worried as they have spent just on $120,000 in advertisement already and hardly any seats sold. $120,000 of $10 mil
I really hope you guys don't lose your joba nd know what you are up for.
Word gets around so quick and yes it can be rumours, but I have also heard that Tiger had all of these wonderful plans in the new terminal at MEL, but have dumped it all and doing it VERY BASIC
Can anybody give me any resonable debate as to why they think Tiger will do well?
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Old 16th Sep 2007, 04:57
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Originally Posted by onlyemirates
Can anybody give me any resonable debate as to why they think Tiger will do well?
Singapore Airlines want the Pacific routes, they have been trying for years to get on them however they are protected by the Australian Government. A way around that is to set up a domestic airline in Australia (in this case Tiger), get it up & running, sell 51% of it to Australian investors so its then technically an Australian airline - that then gives Tiger the right to apply to fly to the USA from Australia. I daresay the domestic operations are nothing but a facade for the long term aspirations of Singapore Airlines to get a slice of the Pacific Pie - even if it does mean they can only have a 49% stake in the operating airline.
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Old 16th Sep 2007, 08:54
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Im 100% interested in supporting this company and dont want to come accross as a negative nancy but milocole, your points are just a load of ramble. Please check they make sense before you post so we can understand what you are trying to say.

I would hope an aircraft would arrive a couple of months early for the purpose of training crew and familiarity for the crew/ engineers, and dont think it would be sitting "rusting" in that period.

Some of what you say concerns me
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Old 16th Sep 2007, 08:59
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Sebby you took the words right out of my mouth..... the AOC process takes time - proving flights, evac demo's, crew training, practice flights for outports to get used to handling the aircraft etc etc.

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Old 16th Sep 2007, 15:22
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Sinala I'm with you 100%. Can't agree more. Think that is what is happening because I just can't see Tiger working at all. Think they don't care if they lose their money just to get entry on the Pac routes, only thing is, once the Pac route opens up everybody will be doing it so don't think it will be so lucrative for the airlines. Soon DJ will be doing it and then another and another. Singapore is such a clever and tight operation, why would they put their name up for ridicule with one of the worst budget airlines. Think in the long term you might see an upgraded Tiger. Business Class and all and they could do the Pac route and have Melbourne, Darwin and Perth as their bases forwarding pax onto their International arm. Just can't see domestic working for them on what they plan and what I've heard. Were contracts sent out on re-used toilet paper? ok now kidding
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Old 17th Sep 2007, 04:26
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Tiger sale

Tiger releases sale but flight to get a "real" ticket. All very much a gimmick, but hey all the airlines do that when starting up. I searched all of the destinations to take a holiday. Nothing just one seat to Launceston. Typical!
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Old 17th Sep 2007, 12:56
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Leane,

I remember when JQ was announcing international flights there was a short window on their website where all their international destinations were revealed (by accident) and a few people got a glimpse.
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i did, we had a 2hour breif 1st. OMG felt like 200, and we got allocated certain routes , i have newcasle, laun ceston, canberra. They havn't released those routes yet ?????????? i start on the 29th December with only 1 flight sector(Laun) then a flexible 38 hour roster.
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 07:13
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sale

Stop fighting for the "sale" fares everybody

All Tiger Airways sale tickets ( that's all of 10 ) are sold

What are you going to be doing between end of course and first flight. Easy, you will be calling those 10 people to refund their money, because Tiger not going anywhere

Have a look. So called big sale and flights are still EMPTY. Tiger is getting worried, although they did not spend anything on this campaign, was just withe first A320 coming to MEL.

Have you guys gone to the zoo to pick up your uniforms yet?
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 08:55
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Does everyone think that tiger will get reg approval, if they dont they better transfer us to dj, jq,qf or my holiday if up the gurgular. How long does everyone think they last, im given them to MARCH08
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 11:43
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I think the kind of uninformed slander & speculation thats being spouted here is demonstrative of a diminished level of maturity and/or knowledge of this industry and its practices, requirements, systems and processes.

Perhaps those with concrete facts regarding Tiger care to comment on the process of the acquisition of an AOC and predicted launch date?
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Old 27th Sep 2007, 22:43
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Leanne7, Milocole or what ever the name is, does not work for Tiger airways, and it amazes me that anyone would believe that an airline would issue rosters on the first day of training....... Not to mention that we start flying in November, not December and the rosters are set, not flexible...... If anyone would actually like to know the facts about Tiger, please feel free to ask. Onlyemirates, you are a FOOL! your views are uneducated and uninformed.
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Old 28th Sep 2007, 06:58
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Tiger Melbourne

I must say its with some surprise that I have read a few of the comments in this thread. I have taken up a position with Tiger, and it's not because I am desperate to become a Flight Attendant (I've been one, with one of the so-called "Big 3"), nor because I really need the job, but because I think it's a great, and exciting, opportunity. As a Flight Attendant, you generally don't have a chance to contribute much more than your personality and smile. You are given a book, told how to do things (i.e pour coffee) and then you turn up to work, do your job and go home. Maybe for some thats enough. But I'm excited by the fact that I will be able to contribute so much more given that this is a new operation and management appear genuinely interested in utilizing the full range of skills and experiences that people have. I didn't even ask about staff travel when I was going through the employment process. Who cares? Who on earth does this job for cheap standby tickets anyway? And as for conditions, well to expect Tiger (or any other airline for that matter) to mirror the spoon-fed, pampered conditions at Qantas, is unrealistic at best. Those days are over. I am really hoping that everyone who makes the decision to go to Tiger will give it their all, and will be there because they really truly want to. The ones that don't should go fly for QF, where you can get away with that sort of attitude. Whether Tiger lasts for 6 months or 6 years, I'm recognizing this opportunity for the great one that it is and am going to give it my all. Because at the end of the day, you will get out of it what you put in.
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Old 28th Sep 2007, 06:58
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Originally Posted by TigerCrew
As far as I know TT crew max working hours are 14
IF this is true, then the 6 sector days that were being spoken about earlier in this thread are a real possibility...
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Old 1st Oct 2007, 07:36
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qantas conditions

hiya evaflyer,
re the spoonfed pampered conditions at qantas,
you are so right that they are over.
the only way in is MAM and after 5 years, in the perth base,
you may have a slight chance of permanent employment.
the only other way in is via a regional with career progression.
still can't figure out why anyone would work for an airline
without staff travel, saved me heaps over the years.
go tiger!!
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Old 3rd Oct 2007, 08:01
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Well done to those successful with Tiger!
I started with a start up Airline and it is very exciting so enjoy the journey.Are your rest periods similar to QF , i have heard that they are 12 hours minimum rest , is this just at home base?
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Old 21st Oct 2007, 19:48
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MMM 4 Airlines!!!

This is Australia, not EUROPE with unlimited passengers!!!!
Lets see how many airlines have Gone Under!! Do we know an airline called Compass Mark 1 & II
Another airline Ansett & Impulse Airlines & Eastwest and the list goes on....
So I agree, these cheap flights maybe 2 per flight, I looked and well it seems they are no cheaper than the other 3....
Suppose we SH.T in their back yard so they have come over here to SH>T in ours!! (Jetstar Asia).
The only Loser is the poor employee's who lose thier jobs >>>>>
Signed
A Long Time flyer.....
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Old 21st Oct 2007, 21:19
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Can someone confirm that Tiger have just handed back all of their Sydney slots to SACL?
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Old 21st Oct 2007, 22:00
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Originally Posted by aulglarse
Can someone confirm that Tiger have just handed back all of their Sydney slots to SACL?
Until March they have... Its confirmed here: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...-23349,00.html
TIGER Airways has shunned Sydney Airport in its initial expansion and handed back slots it had been allocated for the northern winter season.

Tiger Australia corporate affairs head Matthew Hobbs confirmed that Tiger had returned slots at Sydney for the end of October to March.

This did not mean the airline had no intention of flying to Sydney or NSW, he said.

"We will go NSW at some point but at the moment we've got to get our airline up and running," he said. "That's not one of the first sets of routes."
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