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Mia Donna - excellent statement - definitely agree with you - IOM night stops will definitely wear off!!! Now, I know what I would prefer - either a nice classy 4 or 5 star hotel in Fra or a crappy 1 star hotel in IOM? mmm, tough choice!!!
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Trust me I am not putting myself down. I am on a high in my job which is now at easyjet.
I come to flybe/bacon as flybe is my previous airline and it is interesting to see what is happening in the world of flybe, if it is better or worse now than when I was there, and to catch up on gossip, and of course it is even more interesting with the bacon merger.
As I have said on many occasions I have nothing against crew at flybe, however I do like to add my comments and agree with you guys about flybe and now bacon crew are treated by management.
Putting yourseld down Airbourne is going to get you no where....
I come to flybe/bacon as flybe is my previous airline and it is interesting to see what is happening in the world of flybe, if it is better or worse now than when I was there, and to catch up on gossip, and of course it is even more interesting with the bacon merger.
As I have said on many occasions I have nothing against crew at flybe, however I do like to add my comments and agree with you guys about flybe and now bacon crew are treated by management.
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Exactly Tiggerific, also, after a 14 hour day with no crew food it's not very nice to be told that the hotel you are nightstopping in has no rooms. Then try + phone crewing who don't pick the phone up for 45 minutes to then get told you are in a different hotel. I must've left my crystal ball at check in. Then being assured the next day that you are booked into a crew hotel for that night, get back to the hotel + surprise surprise - no room booked. The hotel asks to take credit card details so we can get into our rooms - do I look that stupid? The hotel rings Flybe - no answer - the receptionist makes a joke that Flybe have caller id + probably know who it who is calling so she witholds the number. Lo + behold the Flybe phone is answered within 2 rings. Coincidence maybe??? I think not.
I'm not going to intentionally disagree but has it occured to you that whilst you are working your arses off at the moment, so are the likes of Operations and Crewing who are dealing with double the number of crew, but without double the number of Crewing/Ops staff!
Here at Flybe there may be slightly more crew however there are actually in fact 4 hotac controllers as well as a hotac superviser who cover the operation for 12 hours everyday including weekends and there are LESS nightstops than before! common sense says there is something wrong somewhere!!
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Dear All,Just spent a few moments on 'skytrax' looking at our passenger comments section, and I have a question for anyone from our 'Management' team who may bother with this forum. ( 'Managment' as in could not manage a way out of a paper bag team!)
DO YOU ACTUALLY GIVE A TOSS ABOUT OUR PASSENGERS?????
Seems not if you read the reviews?
DOH!
Please BA, let me have my course date SOOOOOON!!
Safe flying!
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Oldflyboy: I regret to inform your comments apply totally to the BA management as well that you soon hope to join. Unlike Bacon / Flybe et al mainline management group BA would be unable to find a brewery in the first place.
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HZ123,
Sorry, can't agree, as when we were BACON at least our customers were treated with respect and handled well on the ground by BA staff who knew what they were doing, unlike Swissport. Also our ops team were very experienced and kept delays & cancellations down, something the bunch of adolescants flybe employ in Exeter seem unable to be able to do!
And if you read what the customers say, no-one at flybe wants to contact them back to answer complaints. A friend who works on the BHX airport info desk tells me that flybe are the only airline operating ex BHX who won't take calls from the public. The switchboard are instructed to tell them to contact the airline on line or by mail!
I know, as I flew BA recently, that they respond to comments, as my concerns were answered within seven days!
Safe Flying
Sorry, can't agree, as when we were BACON at least our customers were treated with respect and handled well on the ground by BA staff who knew what they were doing, unlike Swissport. Also our ops team were very experienced and kept delays & cancellations down, something the bunch of adolescants flybe employ in Exeter seem unable to be able to do!
And if you read what the customers say, no-one at flybe wants to contact them back to answer complaints. A friend who works on the BHX airport info desk tells me that flybe are the only airline operating ex BHX who won't take calls from the public. The switchboard are instructed to tell them to contact the airline on line or by mail!
I know, as I flew BA recently, that they respond to comments, as my concerns were answered within seven days!
Safe Flying
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Suggest you start opening your eyes! Presume you don't listen to your customers, or don't interface with them, or you would understand how badly they are treated on the ground and how flybe disregard them when cancelling flights etc.
FYI, BACON were not 'rescued', it was a tactical decision by BA, and lots of us, both pilots and cabin crew have given it a chance, realised it's not for us and are leaving.
HOWEVER I still reserve the right to speak on this forum about the bad stuff flybe do, in the vain hope that the airline improves.
Bottom line is, BA treats its staff better, recognises them appropriately and Manages them effectively, something flybe just seem unable or are unwilling, to do. I don't think its deliberate, it's just that they don't have enough experience or nowse to do it properly.
As a recent post from me indicates, as soon as I get a course I will be off, and you won't have anyone to remind flybe how cr*p they are.
Hooray I hear you cry!
Safe Flying.
Suggest you start opening your eyes! Presume you don't listen to your customers, or don't interface with them, or you would understand how badly they are treated on the ground and how flybe disregard them when cancelling flights etc.
FYI, BACON were not 'rescued', it was a tactical decision by BA, and lots of us, both pilots and cabin crew have given it a chance, realised it's not for us and are leaving.
HOWEVER I still reserve the right to speak on this forum about the bad stuff flybe do, in the vain hope that the airline improves.
Bottom line is, BA treats its staff better, recognises them appropriately and Manages them effectively, something flybe just seem unable or are unwilling, to do. I don't think its deliberate, it's just that they don't have enough experience or nowse to do it properly.
As a recent post from me indicates, as soon as I get a course I will be off, and you won't have anyone to remind flybe how cr*p they are.
Hooray I hear you cry!
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so has everybody had their winter leave forms?it seems flybe have mislaid a few of our leave days for winter.maybe theyre in the same place as the summer sunshine thats gone missing
does anybody know if legally they can reduce our leave given that we have not yet signed a flybe contract?
does anybody know if legally they can reduce our leave given that we have not yet signed a flybe contract?
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It was exactly the same when I was strutting my stuff at flybe/british european/jersey european.
I was also wondering how flybe will react to easyjet soon starting to operate from BHX. Only a couple of routes to start with, but i reckon it will start competing against the likes of flybe.
Bottom line is, BA treats its staff better, recognises them appropriately and Manages them effectively, something flybe just seem unable or are unwilling, to do.
I was also wondering how flybe will react to easyjet soon starting to operate from BHX. Only a couple of routes to start with, but i reckon it will start competing against the likes of flybe.
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I was also wondering how flybe will react to easyjet soon starting to operate from BHX. Only a couple of routes to start with, but i reckon it will start competing against the likes of flybe.
I also wouldn't be surprised if WW were giving Flybe a serious tanking on the domestic routes giving BE's current crewing problems
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Airbourne-Adamski,
Any chance of Easyjet opening a BHX base? Some of us would rather not leave Brum, and word from our ex bacon pilots is easy is a good place to be??
Safe Flying
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Any chance of Easyjet opening a BHX base? Some of us would rather not leave Brum, and word from our ex bacon pilots is easy is a good place to be??
Safe Flying
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Regards to easy opening a base at BHX i have not heard anything.
The initial flights out of BHX is to start on the winter schedule operating to GVA and GNB. Wether this will be just a winter thing Ii dont know, I cant really see easy just buying slots for winter out of a major midland airport. It would not suprise me if easy are testing the water in BHX and just seeing how well they do. My own opinion is if successful in BHX in winter then they may look at sun destinations for summer. Oh and dont forget easy have a strong brand in scotland so is there room to compete on that market?
As I recruit easy crew as well I have not heard of base plans, but you guys will be the first to know. I would'nt say its a certain no but who knows.
Not just saying this cause iam ex Flybe and now at easy but HELL YEAH. I could spend ages telling you how much better, but i have not time today LOL but eg. Better pay, Loads of fantastic incentives on selling as well as 10% commission. Great management WHO LISTEN to crew and talk to crew including the big chief, and the list goes on.
Any way hows life at flybe
Regards to easy opening a base at BHX i have not heard anything.
The initial flights out of BHX is to start on the winter schedule operating to GVA and GNB. Wether this will be just a winter thing Ii dont know, I cant really see easy just buying slots for winter out of a major midland airport. It would not suprise me if easy are testing the water in BHX and just seeing how well they do. My own opinion is if successful in BHX in winter then they may look at sun destinations for summer. Oh and dont forget easy have a strong brand in scotland so is there room to compete on that market?
As I recruit easy crew as well I have not heard of base plans, but you guys will be the first to know. I would'nt say its a certain no but who knows.
is easy is a good place to be??
Any way hows life at flybe
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Update?
Well AA,
New crew room all glistening, but that's about the best of it. Our PM's still have to refer everything to HOCS even stuff like roster change requests, obviously the woman can't let go!
Number 3's ( sad how flybe calls crew by numbers rather than name) sitting at home doing nothing on permanent standby, no airport standbys any longer, so chance to gossip is reduced!
Number 1's are working hard as we seem to be short still on barbie jet. Lodsa good crew left, very few of the ex Brymon ones left, and only a couple of ex BAR still here. Think we must have lost nearly 70 or so crew from here. Our male PM not doing himself any good, heard on grapevine he doesn't like being asked SEP questions in briefing!!!!!
No improvements to the way Swissport look after our customers, despite our ex BA PM on secondment to flybe's customer service team.
Oh yes, and our Manager George is off poorly, hope he is OK, but frankly we don't miss him!
Safe Flying
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New crew room all glistening, but that's about the best of it. Our PM's still have to refer everything to HOCS even stuff like roster change requests, obviously the woman can't let go!
Number 3's ( sad how flybe calls crew by numbers rather than name) sitting at home doing nothing on permanent standby, no airport standbys any longer, so chance to gossip is reduced!
Number 1's are working hard as we seem to be short still on barbie jet. Lodsa good crew left, very few of the ex Brymon ones left, and only a couple of ex BAR still here. Think we must have lost nearly 70 or so crew from here. Our male PM not doing himself any good, heard on grapevine he doesn't like being asked SEP questions in briefing!!!!!
No improvements to the way Swissport look after our customers, despite our ex BA PM on secondment to flybe's customer service team.
Oh yes, and our Manager George is off poorly, hope he is OK, but frankly we don't miss him!
Safe Flying
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hey
think you're going to the rock for 3 days and they make you do a delayed trip, where do you put your bags????!!! yeh its hit and miss at the moment
but as we know thats the airline business???
on a good note the crew rooms looking good- nice and spacious
and nice cosy room for our delays
g.mck is off, but fair play to the pms who we see, they are doin a great job and last time i flew with the male pm his sep was spot on?-so another rumour wrong? - all i know is hes about all the time, the others arent!
anyway off to sou for a few days, or am i???
safe flying
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think you're going to the rock for 3 days and they make you do a delayed trip, where do you put your bags????!!! yeh its hit and miss at the moment
but as we know thats the airline business???
on a good note the crew rooms looking good- nice and spacious
and nice cosy room for our delays
g.mck is off, but fair play to the pms who we see, they are doin a great job and last time i flew with the male pm his sep was spot on?-so another rumour wrong? - all i know is hes about all the time, the others arent!
anyway off to sou for a few days, or am i???
safe flying
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Flybe MathsTest
Hi everyone
This is my first posting as I am a pprune virgin! I have been fortunate enough to be told by Flybe that I have an interview with them on 8th August but I am worried about the maths test as my maths is not very good.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
This is my first posting as I am a pprune virgin! I have been fortunate enough to be told by Flybe that I have an interview with them on 8th August but I am worried about the maths test as my maths is not very good.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
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Ryanair at BHD
Well what news for flybe............
Ryanair announced they will start operations from BHD to LPL, EMA and PIK (Glasgow Preswick). with more routes to be announced.
Initial routes much in competion with flybe.
Also heard while night stopping at Belfast Intl that when Ryanair come to BHD flybe will move their belfast operation to Belfast Intl.
Interesting news and gossip don't you think.
I wonder what real impact Ryanair will have on flybe in Belfast?
Ryanair announced they will start operations from BHD to LPL, EMA and PIK (Glasgow Preswick). with more routes to be announced.
Initial routes much in competion with flybe.
Also heard while night stopping at Belfast Intl that when Ryanair come to BHD flybe will move their belfast operation to Belfast Intl.
Interesting news and gossip don't you think.
I wonder what real impact Ryanair will have on flybe in Belfast?
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I wonder what real impact Ryanair will have on flybe in Belfast?
It would be foolish to underestimate the power of frequency and with 9/10 a day on BHDMAN, 7 a day on BHDBHX and 4 a day on BHDGLA, this will ensure Flybe maintain their presence on these routes.
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A few posts back I mentioned about easyjet going into BHX only doing a few initial routes in winter, and suggested if easyjet are testing the water for more.
Old Fly Boy
You asked about the future of easy at BHX and as i said I would keep you imformed. Our found this on our web site. I have only pasted the last section as I think its the more interesting.
David Osborne, UK Regional General Manager, commented:
“easyJet’s expansion from Birmingham International Airport is great news for skiers from the Midlands, giving them more choice and a brand new service to Grenoble.With the daily service to Geneva and twice weekly flight to Grenoble they now have the opportunity to fly to the major ski gateways for the French and Swiss Alps.
Our expansion in Birmingham reflects our commitment to growth across the UK, we recognise the strong demand for low-fares with convenience and Birmingham's great potential."
Peter Vella, Business Development Director at Birmingham International Airport, said:
“We’re delighted to welcome easyJet to Birmingham and offer our passengers a brand new service to Grenoble and increased services to Geneva. We look forward to working with easyJet to make these routes a success and we hope this is the start of a growing presence at Birmingham.”
Old Fly Boy
You asked about the future of easy at BHX and as i said I would keep you imformed. Our found this on our web site. I have only pasted the last section as I think its the more interesting.
David Osborne, UK Regional General Manager, commented:
“easyJet’s expansion from Birmingham International Airport is great news for skiers from the Midlands, giving them more choice and a brand new service to Grenoble.With the daily service to Geneva and twice weekly flight to Grenoble they now have the opportunity to fly to the major ski gateways for the French and Swiss Alps.
Our expansion in Birmingham reflects our commitment to growth across the UK, we recognise the strong demand for low-fares with convenience and Birmingham's great potential."
Peter Vella, Business Development Director at Birmingham International Airport, said:
“We’re delighted to welcome easyJet to Birmingham and offer our passengers a brand new service to Grenoble and increased services to Geneva. We look forward to working with easyJet to make these routes a success and we hope this is the start of a growing presence at Birmingham.”
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FlyBE's problems seem to be primarily at BHX where the Bacon tribe longs for the old days and the high cost culture of their now defunct employer. There are inevitable problems with any takeover, and even more so when those taken over have some sort of illusion that they were /are superior and provided a better service than those in the organisation which has taken them over. Yes, Bacon had more admin backup and the merger is giving FlyBE some indigestion but folk would be better helping the new organisation through the initial difficult period rather than raising a constant barrage of whinging. The original FlyBE people must be fed up with it and the sooner the whingers move on the better. Then the rest can get on and enjoy life,- less pampered though it may be.