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Old 4th Jun 2007, 11:04
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Wasn't it hail that easy swiss flew into????

It looks rather like it and that's what I remember too
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Old 5th Jun 2007, 12:04
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It was indeed hailstones that did the damage to the easySwiss aircraft and not turbulence.
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Old 8th Jun 2007, 11:34
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Basic pay

Hi ive had a good scroll thro here and i understand that as a junior i can expect to make a take home pay of about 14-1500 pm. Can anyone tell me how much the basic pay is though - like how much will i make on probation or i read that someone was on basic only cause they were off sick? Sorry to ask but the ej website does not give any figuers for basic pay, sector pay or sales commission.

Thanks.
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Old 8th Jun 2007, 12:02
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cchopeful, the salary scales are currently as follows:

CC Probationary sp 9,365
Cabin Crew spaces 10,860
SCCM Probationary 12,235
SCCM tabbedspaces 13,310


To work out your monthly basic, divide the figures above by 12. easyJet will be reviewing pay later this year, so a higher rate of basic pay will apply from the 1st of October 2007.

You are only on basic pay for the first full month employed, this is while you are training. The second month will be basic pay plus some flight pay (depending on when you start flying). Flight pay (sector pay) is paid one month in arrears, along with commission.

When you are off sick, you do only earn basic pay - but that is only for the period you are off sick. If you are sick for 2 days, then you will only be missing the sector pay and commission for the flights you have not operated. Off sick for a month, then yes you would only receive basic pay.
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Old 8th Jun 2007, 15:47
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Afew post back someone asked about new bases.

Areply to that from (Sorry cant remember who ) mentioned that we cant really say on here due to company confidentiality (think thats how its spelt).
Which is a fair, as easy staff DO look at this forum, and putting on company info could get you in deep.

But are we not safe enough to put on what we have heard going around the 'RUMOUR' network?

I would have thought you can only land in the s**t if you discuss 'Official' info rather than just galley gossip.
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Old 9th Jun 2007, 22:05
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Turnarounds

Are we OK to discuss the new procedures on here?

Tried to reply to your intranet post Adam, but it came up with an error.

Must say I do agree with most points you made thought, 'cept increasing turnaround times is a no-no, it costs too much money!

Would 1 sick bag per row surfice?

Crossing seatbelts, well, I hate the idea of not doing that...reminds me of the time I flew with another airline, there was rubbish in the seat pocket when I got on board and they did a PA saying press the call bell if you want a safety card and there isn't one.

Wasn't nice
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Old 10th Jun 2007, 11:26
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ezychic

I haven't worked with the new procedures yet as I'm on leave at the moment but I'm going back tomorrow and I'm dreading it...

So now we are going to have the nice new uniform (coming up) so we look more professional and nice but our aircraft will look like sh...! Great!
I just couldn't believe it when I heard about it yesterday! It's awful!
A mate of mine received a reward not long ago for a pax writing in about how spotless his aircraft was...well, that won't happen again now, won't it?!

I doubt very much that turn around really will be much quicker...the delays usually happen because of ground handling...that's my experience anyway, just crew can't be bothered to fill out a FER every time especially when they think they make up the time during the flight...

Anyway, I'm sure we will receive a lot of bad pax feedback and I will write it down in a FER every single time.

It looks unprofessional and if I as a pax would get on an untidy aircraft I would be really worried about what the crew did do during turn around...if crew couldn't be bothered to cross the seatbelt and restock seat pockets...could they be bothered to do any kind of security checks....nah, easyjet got this wrong....first impressions count, not just the crew but the aircraft too!!!
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Old 10th Jun 2007, 20:29
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Thanks

Getoutofmygalley, that's really helpful
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Old 11th Jun 2007, 03:58
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To be honest,

I dont mind the hard work we all put in on turnarounds making sure the cabin is tidy, In someway I take pride in having a nice clean cabin ready for pax, it makes them feel more comfortable I think, where if they come onboard to a messy cabin what we they think then of the crew? it could cause bad reflection on us.

And Dolley your right as well how does this all fit in with our new uniform and easyjet wanting to show a professional high brand product?
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Old 11th Jun 2007, 16:21
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Regarding the new turnaround memo, I am still insisting that crew replace sick bags. For some halfwit in Luton to say that the sick bags will be replaced by the cleaners overnight is a joke.

What happens if a pax is seated at say row 17B and uses their sick bag to put their banana skin or whatever in it. This bag gets gashed. On the next sector pax in 17B is sick, ends up vomiting over the carpet, seat cushion and back of seat in front. The down time for cleaners/engineers replacing and cleaning soiled fixtures and fittings is going to be a damn sight longer than 20 seconds!

Pilots at LGW think this is a ridiculous joke and are supporting me in my insistance.
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Old 11th Jun 2007, 16:36
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I am back tomorrow after LVE, so it'll be my first day with these new rules.

I honestly don't mind the sick bag thing, 1 per row (well 3 seats) would be OK for me.

It's the not crossing seat belts I hate.

I just don't think it's gonna look good.

Suppose it's worth a try though, who knows, the money they save on speedier turn arounds might go towards our pay rise.

LOL
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Old 11th Jun 2007, 16:38
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More chance of me flying as the SCCM on the back of a flying pig tomorrow than that happening I think!
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Old 11th Jun 2007, 17:03
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Ha ha ha ha ha.

Love it.

Well I have faith in Ezy even if no one else does.

We'll see how this turns out.
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Old 11th Jun 2007, 18:02
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To be honest since the memo came out my crew are still doing belts and bags, and i CAN NOT see what real difference in turn times it makes. Honestly save 20 secs if not replacing bags, who the hell sat down with a calculator and worked that one out
1 Minute 30 or something around there to cross seatbelts
so now we are up to 1 minute 50.
Ok well did they sit and time the time it takes from us giving ground staff the ok to board to pax actually arriving, or fueller to turn up, or wchr/s/c to arrive with care bears, waiting for steps/airbridge.
But hey guys DONT replace sick bags as we can solve all these other problems.

Still love easyjet though
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Old 12th Jun 2007, 19:26
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TBN on Roster

Hey all

Quick Q

Got TBN (To Be Notified) down on my brief schedule for July a couple of times. Have it down for days 1&2 three weeks in a row then day 6 of the last week.

Last week I had TBN on every day, except the first day or two of July.

Anyone got any ideas what delights may be in store or if it's just one of those funny things rostering do?

Ta muchly

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Old 12th Jun 2007, 19:47
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I am still insisting that crew replace sick bags
Getoutofmygalley, will you be insisting that crew don't arm their doors next because you dont like it?? If you disagree with the new procedures, then so be it, but dont expect your crew to break SOPs to keep you happy.
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Old 13th Jun 2007, 10:57
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Got TBN (To Be Notified) down on my brief schedule for July a couple of times. Have it down for days 1&2 three weeks in a row then day 6 of the last week.

Last week I had TBN on every day, except the first day or two of July.

Anyone got any ideas what delights may be in store or if it's just one of those funny things rostering do?
If this is for your july roster TBN will be on there as July's will not officially be finished and released until the 17th of this month. So basically they are still working on your roster and they have not yet filled in the days with duties with TBN.
The rosters are officially complete and realeased on the 17th of each month. And to be honest I would not go off what you have seen on your unfinished July roster as it could change a little or alot between now and it being released.
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Old 13th Jun 2007, 12:11
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TBN

TBN
TO BE NOTIFIED...

ie when the rosters are out.

It's nothing special sorry to say, it's what it says on the tin.
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Old 13th Jun 2007, 15:29
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ezpz

You've got a fair point although I agree with getoutofmygalley. I think it's plain stupid and ending up not having any sick bags in a row is just ridiculous. However, the new policies are the new policies, if I like it or not.

My first day back after leave I asked my crew to stick with the policies and they weren't happy at all as they rather would do the seat belts and sick bags. At the end of the day there's work pride involved...I logged a FER at the end of the day about customers commenting on the untidy state of the aircraft.

The day after I had an OPM on board so I brought the matter up with her and she said that everybody is still doing the seat belts and the issue is being raised in Ltn by our BCCM so since then I tell my crew exactly that, and that I keep on doing it but they don't have to if they don't want to as long as the seat belts are on the seat.

Regarding sick bags I ask them to use their common sense. If there is all sick bags missing in a row and you don't replace them you might end up cleaning up sick. So far everybody is doing it...out of their own free will...(although I make it pretty clear that if it's in their rows and the sick is there because there was no sick bags they'll be cleaning it up, not me ----that was supposed to be a joke. I don't really do that!)

So all together no problems with new policies...but Ltn will have to change something one way or another as I'm sure they can't just have a whole base (and I'm sure it's more) ignoring what's written down. So either they have to change it back or put their foot down...let's wait and see :-)

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Old 14th Jun 2007, 11:22
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Getoutofmygalley, will you be insisting that crew don't arm their doors next because you dont like it?? If you disagree with the new procedures, then so be it, but dont expect your crew to break SOPs to keep you happy.
ezpz what a most ridiculous counter arguement. Arming of doors is an SOP which is for a safety related duty. The not replacing of sick bags is not a safety related function, therefore I am free to insist that my crew replace them.

As I am the SCCM onboard I have the right to change things (non safety related) to make things better for the passengers, I have been told this by my OPM's and BCCM on numerous occasions. Also I have had Captains say to me that they would like me to continue with the sick bag replacements, to which I reply "I am already insisting on this". What do you want me to do? say to the Captain "I am sorry sir, but due to this new turnaround policy I can not carry out your request" - The Captain is in charge of the aircraft and if he wants my crew and I to do things a certain way, then my crew and I WILL providing it isn't something to jeopardize the safety of the pax, crew and aircraft.

I have had an OPM onboard this week and I said to the OPM that I am continuing to insist they are replaced and guess what, the OPM agreed that they should continue to be replaced as the down time (as per my original post) on awaiting cleaners and engineers will far outweigh the 20 seconds saved on not replenishing them.

This is a stupid rule change made up by someone in Hangar 89 who probably has never operated as crew and does not realise the potential problems involved in NOT replacing sick bags.

Most of the crew I work with have high standards and want the cabin to look clean and do not like the cabin looking a mess. Remember we are in a customer service industry and we want out pax to return to us time and time again. Passengers who have to experience messy cabins will be less inclined to fly again with us, similarly any poor pax who ends up covered in their own vomit (or the vomit of a neighbouring pax) will most certainly not want to fly with us if we do not have sick bags in the seat pockets. Plus, how do you explain to a pax covered in vomit that we don't replace sick bags "to save 20 seconds of turnaround time"?

Now, when you are capable of coming back with a reasoned arguement other than "will you be insisting that crew don't arm their doors next because you dont like it??" then I will be willing to discuss this further with you, but until then stay out of this arguement!
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