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Old 19th Sep 2006, 07:34
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I wonder if any of these posts supposedly from people going through the application process are actually people in the office making it look like it's a great idea...because no one seems to be posting any of the conditions of Scrooge Air ...
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Conditions for JQI as follows:
  • Able to be rostered 152 hours in 28 day roster with 8 days off
  • You can be used on your days off
  • Min rest of 12 hours...increases as duty exceeds 12 hours (eg 15 hr duty = 15 hrs rest). This is in slip ports AND at home base.
  • No min number of nights at home base following any duty
  • No daily overtime
  • No overtime for CSM's except where they exceed 152 hours in 28 day period, and that is at time and a half
  • No annual leave loading whilst on annual leave
  • Crew have to pay for all passports, visas, etc
  • No provision for crew rest seats on board in the AWA
  • CSM's perform line training, team base management (sick leave meetings, etc) for lower base wage than JQ domestic CM's
  • Airport standby does not count towards daily duty hour limitations (eg. 5 hours at airport, used for SYD-DPS-SYD duty = 20 hours effectively, but 'technically' only 15 hours actual duty performed)

These are just some of the edited highlights of JQI.
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Old 19th Sep 2006, 09:20
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Thanks for that info Mr SeatBack 2....
Well with those T & C's I imagaine a flood of people lining up for interviews....come to think about it ,the sad part is that there probably is...I can't wait to hear what the pay being offered is..or lack of and I thought the conditions for QFUK were crook

304 hours possible per 56 day day block..mmmmm Can you imagine the conversation in the galley (The only place apart from the toliets and flight deck you can go to have a break) on a HNL trip.."Fred,what are you going to do during our 14 hour slip,after we have cleaned the aircraft I mean"..."Ohh I'm going to sleep because I only had one night off after my last trip and this was an early sign on"
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Old 19th Sep 2006, 09:46
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Gee Whiz,,,, GIVE ME AN APPLICATION FORM....... I would like to also donate my kidneys heart and liver and feel free to have the soul thrown in......

FOOLS if you take it people
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After a $10 million profit in the last financial year ,J* has just announced a $5 million advertising deal to sponsor the new ARL team on the Gold Coast .The new club will be called the J* Titans....No bad to spend 50% of your profit on a sponsorship deal...I'd like to know if any of the money came from QF...
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Hi Everyone

Just wondering if you guys/gals had any tips on getting through the assesment days with Jetstar. I know i read a lot of stuff about how bad it is to work for them, but this is my first interview with airline. I just really want a job.
The assessment day is in Brisbane on the 29th. Has anyone else been invited?

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Old 20th Sep 2006, 22:23
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Emster

apply for MAM-its a Qantas Shorthaul flight attendant position. You will work 80 per month minimum but will probably work way over that. You will fly all over Australia and Asia. The money is great. What I'm trying to say is, keep your options open, as Jetstar isn't your only ticket into the airline industry. Obviously there are people around that work for MAM who are are bitter and twisted about not having a "fulltime" position as such, and not being eligible for staff travel, but I have really enjoyed my time there. If you are interested go to the website and apply there.

www.mam.net.au

Good luck with your flying career!

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Old 20th Sep 2006, 23:16
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hi guys after 5weeks of waiting i finally got my "thanks, but no thanks email yesterday"...

is there no method in their madness...some people are still waiting to hear after one interview,some after two...bad public relations exercise for a start up airline.

i'm not really that dissapointed...have seen the best days of my aviation career and it was a million times better than back yard asia airlines will ever be ...

good luck to all the hopefuls though..I hope you guys wont be used and abused..
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Old 21st Sep 2006, 09:35
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Hi Wingletts, I am in the same boat as you. The frustrating thing for me is that I am passionate about the role of Cabin Crew and when working for another airline - received letters weekly from managers and pax for work well done. All I can say is that it is the airline that eventually suffers. This is my 5th rejection in about 4 years. I had to resign to accommodate my partners Medical Career, now it is my turn.....oh well......one day!

All the best to the rest, and perhaps we are actually the lucky ones considering the terms and conditions I am seeing here.
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Old 21st Sep 2006, 12:03
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I went for a Recruitment day w/ JQ Domestic back in July. Whilst I believe I was treated well enough re: the whole e-reply scenario [ie; not having to wait weeks for a 'yes' or 'no'] I was a little disappointed in the actual events of the day and the unprofessionalism of the "recruitment team". They really should invest some interest in hiring [or utilising] some form of a HR team. People trained to work with people and get as close as possible to their real personality without forming a biased or judgemental opinion.

The woman I was interviewed by was a Cabin Supervisor [or what not] and was a wall of thick, cold ice. She had no ability in displaying interest in your personality and freely expressed boredom with your application. She was like this with a few of the people I discussed this with. I sometimes think that I may have gotten further with another interviewer, however having the opportunity to interview again in 4 months I will not be applying to JQ again. If that's the type of supervisor you'll be working in a cabin with I'd rather not. What an old drone.

Just my thoughts.
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Old 22nd Sep 2006, 23:22
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Originally Posted by justsmile!
apply for MAM-its a Qantas Shorthaul flight attendant position.....

just beware with MAM, there's no holiday pay and no sick leave entitlements. ie you don't work, you don't earn. And they tell you when to take your annual leave.
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missed out again?

hi to braniff and others who were unsuccessful.
don't give up!
9 applications before i made it.
a guy i know made it after 12 and got into ansett (oops)
i know it is depressing after each knockback but eventually
you will get interviewers who are totally bored/hungover/drugged out
or just plain impressed with your persistence
after 15 years hate management....love my job!

don't forget qf regionals, most have a career progression scheme
to shorthaul
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Old 26th Sep 2006, 05:50
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^^ Great advice!

How often do people get through the medical and security checks and then are knocked back? Just interested...

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Old 28th Sep 2006, 13:55
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Seems like J* are intentionally not hiring F/A's that are already experienced.....Very strange to me, especially if you were already Qantas Crew for nearly 5 years in the past and in a training position!

I hate to think what will become of this half-hearted airline

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Old 28th Sep 2006, 14:01
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Everyone whinges about how bad JQI will be and how bad JQ dom is yet time and time again people apply for it... Do you really think it will change when you get there... Because it wont.....

Consider a career change
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Old 29th Sep 2006, 05:13
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Originally Posted by OzyOS
Seems like J* are intentionally not hiring F/A's that are already experienced.....Very strange to me, especially if you were already Qantas Crew for nearly 5 years in the past and in a training position!

I hate to think what will become of this half-hearted airline

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of course they dont want more experienced crew! they want to get rid of us 'old schoolers' as it is.. hiring ex AO/QF/VB crew will only bring into the mix MORE people who are only too aware how the conditions are being erroded.
If your young or old (they dont really care cos they like a mix) but you have NO flying experience, and pref. a sales background, you have a pretty good chance.
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Old 29th Sep 2006, 05:33
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I find it interesting that cabin crew an ex CC walk into interviews and assume that they will get the job.

Very interesting.
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Old 29th Sep 2006, 08:32
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pinklemonae: Ofcourse you would assume that experience within this field would help you a bit, nothing interesting about it...common sense? Why do you think that alot of airlines advertise in their requirements that previous experience can be a plus? Unfortunately it seems that JQI dont really see it this way.

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Old 29th Sep 2006, 08:54
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Originally Posted by pinklemonae
I find it interesting that cabin crew an ex CC walk into interviews and assume that they will get the job.

Very interesting.
I understand what you're saying pinklemonae

I was at an interview recently and some ex cabin crew did swan on in like they had it in the bag, it was quite annoying though and I think would show in the interview itself.

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Old 29th Sep 2006, 09:09
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Fingers Crossed: Its a shame that you were under this impression regarding ex CC. Are you sure they were "Swanning" or did they just have an air of confidence about them? The only thing that being ex CC can help you with is that the company are 100% aware that you are aware of what is required of you in this position, as for many.. its not for them.

What happens when you get a job as CC then a few years decide to change to another airline and the people at the interviews (who are non-CC) say the same thing about you....would you think a bit of jealousy might be in there?

Granted there may be a few that this job goes straight to their heads (as in any career), but there are also alot of current and ex CC that are lovely and humble people who just want to work as you do.

I am NOT trying to cause waves here, just trying to make sure this thread doesnt turn into some cat-fight.
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