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Hi everyone & anyone! 
I've been invited to a recruitment centre for QantasLink in acouple of weeks. Has anyone been to this assessment day recently? Any tips, suggestions or advice? Does QantasLink hire permanent full-time? All replies will be very much appreciated!! Am already nervous....
Many thanks.xo
I've been invited to a recruitment centre for QantasLink in acouple of weeks. Has anyone been to this assessment day recently? Any tips, suggestions or advice? Does QantasLink hire permanent full-time? All replies will be very much appreciated!! Am already nervous....
Many thanks.xo
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Interesting bit of the new Shorthaul CSM contract, does this mean it is effectively an AWA?
So what sort of terms and conditions can the shorthaul CSMS negotiate between QF and themselves?
example:
" I will only do X destination and Y destination, and in return I will offer QF 20 more hours a roster! "
When do the CSMS get to negotiate outside the EBA? Are there guidelines as to what they can and cannot negotiate for?
The Flight Attendants (Domestic Airlines) Award 1985 and related Enterprise Agreements as in force from time to time applies to your employment. The provisions of that award apply to your employment independently of and do not form part of the terms and
conditions fixed by this letter or any other terms and conditions of employment agreed between Qantas and yourself.
conditions fixed by this letter or any other terms and conditions of employment agreed between Qantas and yourself.
example:
" I will only do X destination and Y destination, and in return I will offer QF 20 more hours a roster! "
When do the CSMS get to negotiate outside the EBA? Are there guidelines as to what they can and cannot negotiate for?
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negotiating with schedulers
also called 'playing the game' with crewing in shorthaul
this is not restricted to csms
e.g usually revolves around delays where an unscheduled
overnight with crew/pax due to duty limitations and disruptions.
crew may extend where individual and separate agreements with
crewing means crew extend....agreement may include increasing
overtime allowances for the day and even dropping a duty such as
2/4 legs futher in the roster and have it turned into a duty free day
....negotiating can be so much fun, lots more interesting than just
having a yes/no vote as in longhaul
this is not restricted to csms
e.g usually revolves around delays where an unscheduled
overnight with crew/pax due to duty limitations and disruptions.
crew may extend where individual and separate agreements with
crewing means crew extend....agreement may include increasing
overtime allowances for the day and even dropping a duty such as
2/4 legs futher in the roster and have it turned into a duty free day
....negotiating can be so much fun, lots more interesting than just
having a yes/no vote as in longhaul
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Hey Cart Elevator,
What you highlighted was the same as in my contract from a few years ago.
It has nothing to do with AWA's (or it certainly didnt back then!) - no such thing when i got my CSM job.
Cheers,
Sydney S/H.
What you highlighted was the same as in my contract from a few years ago.
It has nothing to do with AWA's (or it certainly didnt back then!) - no such thing when i got my CSM job.
Cheers,
Sydney S/H.
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Career progression?
Just enquiring as to what others on here think about career progression for the FA category , now that we have seen many of our former colleagues leave?
Do you think there will be an upgrade soon?
I left the Perth Base 2 years ago hoping my prospects for upgrade may improve
Thanks
Do you think there will be an upgrade soon?
I left the Perth Base 2 years ago hoping my prospects for upgrade may improve
Thanks
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Ooops,There Goes..
Looks like NRT EX SYD is also going to shorthaul.
Since the Classics demise on this route it has become a sitting duck for the Airbus trained shorthaul crew.
Another destination disappears.
JNB,LAX FRA SFO is about all that will be left soon.
Since the Classics demise on this route it has become a sitting duck for the Airbus trained shorthaul crew.
Another destination disappears.
JNB,LAX FRA SFO is about all that will be left soon.
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Whilst I understand that QF doesn't give a rats about it's own customers my understanding is that the company has an obligation to supply language speakers on it's various codeshare flights ?
If so how does QF get around this obligation given that our domestic collegues dont seem to have too many?
I had to laugh when I heard that the longhaul "Sherpa" assisting the first shorthaul operated BOM sector had done EXACTLY ONE BOM trip prior to taking on the role..........
Oh well.......at least he looks the part.
Interesting to note that international passenger numbers are down 8%.......
http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...246011426.html
If so how does QF get around this obligation given that our domestic collegues dont seem to have too many?
I had to laugh when I heard that the longhaul "Sherpa" assisting the first shorthaul operated BOM sector had done EXACTLY ONE BOM trip prior to taking on the role..........
Oh well.......at least he looks the part.
Interesting to note that international passenger numbers are down 8%.......
http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...246011426.html
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A Choice
Why would you fly Qantas when you have a choice?
1.IFE system that is totally unreliable
2.Aircraft that break down.
3.First and Business class seats that dont work.
4.Galleys that leak into floors under pax feet.
5.Toilets U/S on full flights
6.A managerial indifference to pax complaints about delays ,aircraft,IFE and seating problems
7.Continuous lighting problems
...and now we have cultural indifference
Bravo..bloody Bravo
1.IFE system that is totally unreliable
2.Aircraft that break down.
3.First and Business class seats that dont work.
4.Galleys that leak into floors under pax feet.
5.Toilets U/S on full flights
6.A managerial indifference to pax complaints about delays ,aircraft,IFE and seating problems
7.Continuous lighting problems
...and now we have cultural indifference
Bravo..bloody Bravo
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Without wanting to sound cynical has anyone actually seen the patterns with S/H doing the NRT's ?
It is obvious that Darth wants L/H to go the way of the dinosaurs but let's not count the chickens before they hatch.
If S/H are going to do the NRT's the company will probably save a motsa in allowances and that would certainly please a bonus minded boss.
While we are on rumour(s) another is that with the latest delay with the flying croissant and it's appearance now late 2008 at the earliest the company is thinking about another VR package as there will be not enough flying for L/H crew.If the rumour about Japan flying is true then there will be a lot more under used crew.
Hands up for how many would take a package if it is offered again !!!
It is obvious that Darth wants L/H to go the way of the dinosaurs but let's not count the chickens before they hatch.
If S/H are going to do the NRT's the company will probably save a motsa in allowances and that would certainly please a bonus minded boss.
While we are on rumour(s) another is that with the latest delay with the flying croissant and it's appearance now late 2008 at the earliest the company is thinking about another VR package as there will be not enough flying for L/H crew.If the rumour about Japan flying is true then there will be a lot more under used crew.
Hands up for how many would take a package if it is offered again !!!
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Interesting
the last LH CSM (oz based) appointment letter was 2 pages, my mate tells me. the current sh CSM appointment letter is 8 pages long. i would take it to a lawyer and have several sections crossed out. wonder what they would do?
re package my senority number has ONLY gone down a couple of hundred. so whats all the talk about 400 senior guys/gals leaving?
re package my senority number has ONLY gone down a couple of hundred. so whats all the talk about 400 senior guys/gals leaving?
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......another round of VR??
Just called past the BOS desk after EP's to try and validate the latest rumour of more VR due to the "flying croissant "( luv it Lowerlobe ! ) being de-layed .
They reckon the bean counters are crunching the numbers as we speak.
Looks like a Happy Chrissie for those who missed the 1st offer
They reckon the bean counters are crunching the numbers as we speak.
Looks like a Happy Chrissie for those who missed the 1st offer
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SH aint SH anymore!
The latest bid package for Sydney SH CSM's .....
Auckland, Bombay, Jakarta, Hong Kong, Manila, Shanghai, Bejing, Singapore.
Hmm and one strange destination... LRE?! What the? Where's that...?
5day trips to Bejing, 6day trips Bom, etc....
Times are a changin'
The latest bid package for Sydney SH CSM's .....
Auckland, Bombay, Jakarta, Hong Kong, Manila, Shanghai, Bejing, Singapore.
Hmm and one strange destination... LRE?! What the? Where's that...?
5day trips to Bejing, 6day trips Bom, etc....
Times are a changin'
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Why would you fly Qantas when you have a choice?
1.IFE system that is totally unreliable
2.Aircraft that break down.
3.First and Business class seats that dont work.
4.Galleys that leak into floors under pax feet.
5.Toilets U/S on full flights
6.A managerial indifference to pax complaints about delays ,aircraft,IFE and seating problems
7.Continuous lighting problems
...and now we have cultural indifference
Bravo..bloody Bravo
1.IFE system that is totally unreliable
2.Aircraft that break down.
3.First and Business class seats that dont work.
4.Galleys that leak into floors under pax feet.
5.Toilets U/S on full flights
6.A managerial indifference to pax complaints about delays ,aircraft,IFE and seating problems
7.Continuous lighting problems
...and now we have cultural indifference
Bravo..bloody Bravo
This is a rumour netwok not an exaggeration network.
1 IFE isn't great but when you compare the troubles every airline has with VOD its a very similar story and the A330 fleet is pretty good these days.
2 Aircraft that break down- I can guarantee you are no worse off than anyone else, except that QF suffers the tyranny of distance if an aircraft goes U/S up the line.
3 Previous J class seat was bad for reliability but the beds work fine unless you know something we in engineering don't.
4 (this is my favourite) Galleys that leak on the floors. 95% of the time this is caused by pure sabotage. It is caused by a certain object that I won't name in here being put down the drain that does a perfect job of blocking the pipe below floor level causing the galley drains to back up and wet the floors.
Yes ladies and gentlemen of this forum you can guess whom they blame for this !!
5 It is rare for the toilets to fail these days and again that sabotage word comes out when describing a percentage of the causes when toilets forward of door 2 go U/S.
6. Agreed
7. You do have a valid point on the 744 P and J class lighting, Its rubbish
sydney S/H LRE is Longreach QLD