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HostessVB,
Even your username suggests that of the golden days...something of which I highly doubt virgin blue would like you calling yourself....especially being a 'new age flight attendant ' as you call yourself.
I find it interesting that you are on the QF forum boasting about virgin blue when in reality you are facing a very scary future.......
1. Virgin Blue cabin crew EBA currently being renegotiated with great difficulity. No outcome reached. Existing Conditions AT RISK.
2. DJ looking at reducing crew numbers on 737-800 services from 5 to 4. And from 4 to 3 on 737-700.
3. DJ slowly installing second hand 'Jetblue Airlines' in-flight entertainment in each seat which is riddled with problems.
4. New crew management system being installed at DJ, which in turn will max utilise cabin crew to save the company crewing costs which are now too high thanks to the invent of JQ.
5. A uniform that falls apart very easily and is now VERY dated as it was designed by Marcs back in 1999 ( 20th century ) therefore making you look like a bunch of dinosaurs.
6. Inter fighting between BNE and MEL based crew over layover times and layover destinations.
7. Inaugral Virgin Blue flight BNE-SYD AUG 2000. Cabin crew too busy dancing in cabin during pushback that ATC had to advise tech crew via radio that L1 was not closed properly. High Attention to safety ???????????
This is only a few of the problems you are facing. At Qantas we are facing problems also, but until now, we never attacked DJ crew on this website like you have done to us. I have many close DJ friends who I admire and vice versa and their attitudes are certainly not aligned with yours.
Good Day.
Even your username suggests that of the golden days...something of which I highly doubt virgin blue would like you calling yourself....especially being a 'new age flight attendant ' as you call yourself.
I find it interesting that you are on the QF forum boasting about virgin blue when in reality you are facing a very scary future.......
1. Virgin Blue cabin crew EBA currently being renegotiated with great difficulity. No outcome reached. Existing Conditions AT RISK.
2. DJ looking at reducing crew numbers on 737-800 services from 5 to 4. And from 4 to 3 on 737-700.
3. DJ slowly installing second hand 'Jetblue Airlines' in-flight entertainment in each seat which is riddled with problems.
4. New crew management system being installed at DJ, which in turn will max utilise cabin crew to save the company crewing costs which are now too high thanks to the invent of JQ.
5. A uniform that falls apart very easily and is now VERY dated as it was designed by Marcs back in 1999 ( 20th century ) therefore making you look like a bunch of dinosaurs.
6. Inter fighting between BNE and MEL based crew over layover times and layover destinations.
7. Inaugral Virgin Blue flight BNE-SYD AUG 2000. Cabin crew too busy dancing in cabin during pushback that ATC had to advise tech crew via radio that L1 was not closed properly. High Attention to safety ???????????
This is only a few of the problems you are facing. At Qantas we are facing problems also, but until now, we never attacked DJ crew on this website like you have done to us. I have many close DJ friends who I admire and vice versa and their attitudes are certainly not aligned with yours.
Good Day.
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...and so on they go, merrily ranting away about how the world owes them a living....with their heads firmly buried in the sand and the industrial landscape changed around them...
adieu my friends. see you when you are serving me fries and a big mac, having done to qantas what your mates did to ansett.
now as i depart, lets all join hands and sing the internationale....
adieu my friends. see you when you are serving me fries and a big mac, having done to qantas what your mates did to ansett.
now as i depart, lets all join hands and sing the internationale....
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hostessvb....Just what are you trying to prove??? In a JQI Post you wrote that other crew seem "bitter", but its you that is only proving this about yourself.
With all due respect...Grow up and stop bouncing from thread to thread trying to poision them.
With all due respect...Grow up and stop bouncing from thread to thread trying to poision them.
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hostessvb - I'd be just thrilled if you could avoid wandering into this thread and stirring everybody up in future. It's not difficult, and it's not productive - nor is it clever. You are, I'm sure, best qualified to comment on your own employer, and this might be the best thing to do in future.
For the rest of you, who have managed to deal with this without resorting to the traditional abuse - well done and thank you.
Now, let's move on...
For the rest of you, who have managed to deal with this without resorting to the traditional abuse - well done and thank you.
Now, let's move on...
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Well said tightslot,
What this recent discussion piece has highlighted is the majority of us who fly do care about our jobs and ensuring we have quality and decent conditions to match. So I would urge and refer those of you who feel strongly about your future and whats happenning to our industry to refer to post 96 and 95 in that order.
To all Virgin crew understand we respect what you do as cabin crew.
I hold the view we are all flight attendants and it is up to all of us to recognise that our jobs as crew (irrespective the employer) deserve to be recognised with decent conditions and remuneration.
The one thing employers would love to see on here is divisiveness within an occupation (cabin vcrew) in order to play one groups conditions against the other. Its called a race to the bottom. Those that say yes to anything offered and attack others on better conditions play straight in to the hands of these despicable management tactics causing them only to laugh as they walk to the bank to check their bonus has been paid.
Once again refer post 96 and 95 please
What this recent discussion piece has highlighted is the majority of us who fly do care about our jobs and ensuring we have quality and decent conditions to match. So I would urge and refer those of you who feel strongly about your future and whats happenning to our industry to refer to post 96 and 95 in that order.
To all Virgin crew understand we respect what you do as cabin crew.
I hold the view we are all flight attendants and it is up to all of us to recognise that our jobs as crew (irrespective the employer) deserve to be recognised with decent conditions and remuneration.
The one thing employers would love to see on here is divisiveness within an occupation (cabin vcrew) in order to play one groups conditions against the other. Its called a race to the bottom. Those that say yes to anything offered and attack others on better conditions play straight in to the hands of these despicable management tactics causing them only to laugh as they walk to the bank to check their bonus has been paid.
Once again refer post 96 and 95 please
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OK. I'm no hostie, trolly dolly/troll, FA, steward(ess), or any other moniker I can think of. I'm just SLF, and not even from down that way, but enjoy a lurk on here once in awhile.
I do have a trip down that way soon, and I've got segments booked on QF, DJ and JQ, and am contemplating more of the alphabet soup down there. I've had nothing but good service on QF (but, har har, I usually fly US-domestic services
), and if hostessVB is typical of DJ, uhm...it'll be just like being at home!
seriously, hope she aint working HBA-ADL in January.
I do have a trip down that way soon, and I've got segments booked on QF, DJ and JQ, and am contemplating more of the alphabet soup down there. I've had nothing but good service on QF (but, har har, I usually fly US-domestic services
), and if hostessVB is typical of DJ, uhm...it'll be just like being at home!seriously, hope she aint working HBA-ADL in January.
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interesting comparison
All South West Airlines Employees and their eligible family members have FREE UNLIMITED space available travel anywhere Southwest Airlines flies!
As a SWA Employee you will receive Profit Sharing . . . and Southwest Airlines has had 32 consecutive years of profit!
Southwest Airlines has FABULOUS Medical, Dental and Vision plans for all Employees!
SWA offers a casual uniform environment, which means you can wear tennis shoes!
The Southwest Airlines University offers Career Development classes for all SWA Employees!
Southwest Airlines holds Chili Cookoffs, Holiday Celebrations, Deck Parties, Golf Tournaments and more for all SWA Employees and their family members.
SWA Employees get a dollar for dollar match in their 401K (US Pension plan) - up to 7.3% of their investment!
this all adds up to more pay then in QF.
low cost and being profitable and sharing it with employees can be a long term successs story. where does it leave J* and VB? 
As a SWA Employee you will receive Profit Sharing . . . and Southwest Airlines has had 32 consecutive years of profit!
Southwest Airlines has FABULOUS Medical, Dental and Vision plans for all Employees!
SWA offers a casual uniform environment, which means you can wear tennis shoes!
The Southwest Airlines University offers Career Development classes for all SWA Employees!
Southwest Airlines holds Chili Cookoffs, Holiday Celebrations, Deck Parties, Golf Tournaments and more for all SWA Employees and their family members.
SWA Employees get a dollar for dollar match in their 401K (US Pension plan) - up to 7.3% of their investment!
this all adds up to more pay then in QF.
low cost and being profitable and sharing it with employees can be a long term successs story. where does it leave J* and VB?
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Well apparently i struck a chord when i said i "hated" Virgin Blue.
Just to clarify...
1. I "hate" the way Virgin Blue turned up in Australia and their boss said he was here to do the Aust public a service as they had been taken advantage of by the duolopy of QF and AN. They were after $$$.
2. I "hate" the way Virgin Blue prides itself with its advertising by putting down QF all the time. You never see QF putting out any advertising. QF constantly puts on mercy flights -sometimes paid for by the Govt, sometimes self funded.
When AN collapsed QF carried loads of pax free of charge. Virgin Blue?
3. I "hate" it when my wife flies on Virgin Blue occasionally for work reasons and she comes home complaining how the FA's tried to sell her stuff onboard 4 times on a SYD-ADL sector. Oh and she tells me the onboard jokes are getting old and repetitive.
4. I "hate" the way that Virgin Blue FA's refuse to acknowledge you when you see them about the place and you say hi.
5. I "hate" Richard Branson. He's a ****.
So there you go.
Just to clarify...
1. I "hate" the way Virgin Blue turned up in Australia and their boss said he was here to do the Aust public a service as they had been taken advantage of by the duolopy of QF and AN. They were after $$$.
2. I "hate" the way Virgin Blue prides itself with its advertising by putting down QF all the time. You never see QF putting out any advertising. QF constantly puts on mercy flights -sometimes paid for by the Govt, sometimes self funded.
When AN collapsed QF carried loads of pax free of charge. Virgin Blue?
3. I "hate" it when my wife flies on Virgin Blue occasionally for work reasons and she comes home complaining how the FA's tried to sell her stuff onboard 4 times on a SYD-ADL sector. Oh and she tells me the onboard jokes are getting old and repetitive.
4. I "hate" the way that Virgin Blue FA's refuse to acknowledge you when you see them about the place and you say hi.
5. I "hate" Richard Branson. He's a ****.
So there you go.
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Just a thought, Virgins boss attempts to be everyones best friend. Hes very shrewd.I once had a beer in japan with some Virgin crew. They were raving about wha a nice guy he is.
I told them that my boss(Mr Strong) might not try to be my best buddy but at least i got paid what i am worth. Yes it did take years of tough negotiations but I do get paid a reasonable wage.
I suggested if Mr Virgin really respected you as an employee he would pay you a "reasonable" wage.
I explained i saw life differently to them. Enjoying my job which I still do is about how I interact with the customers and get paid a "reasonable" wage for doing a great job.
Their view which had been pushed by the culture of the company was about making life a party every where you go, singing in the aisle, being funky , alternative.
I asked did their pay cover their life expenses and mortgage. I was met with dead silence.
I told them that my boss(Mr Strong) might not try to be my best buddy but at least i got paid what i am worth. Yes it did take years of tough negotiations but I do get paid a reasonable wage.
I suggested if Mr Virgin really respected you as an employee he would pay you a "reasonable" wage.
I explained i saw life differently to them. Enjoying my job which I still do is about how I interact with the customers and get paid a "reasonable" wage for doing a great job.
Their view which had been pushed by the culture of the company was about making life a party every where you go, singing in the aisle, being funky , alternative.
I asked did their pay cover their life expenses and mortgage. I was met with dead silence.
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Full Circle
The position of Flight Attendant at QF has come full circle.
When I started 25 years ago it was a good part time job.
It paid less than a second job I had.It is becoming that again.
Buy a business and fly partime ..... perfect!!
When I started 25 years ago it was a good part time job.
It paid less than a second job I had.It is becoming that again.
Buy a business and fly partime ..... perfect!!
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part time?
you must be part time mate, as i can certainly not say the same about my rosters. and we are not that far apart in senority, but maybe in category. carmen always adds a surprise to my roster
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Mach 2 male,
from what the FAAA said these meetings cover very sensitive issues. im not sure we should be covering the topics and contents of those meetings in this forum. If any of us cant make them then we should speak to someone who attended.
Some people on here would love to use this as an alternative to attending.That is not a reference to you Mach.Many will be away and miss attending, all the more reason we should discuss it when we meet either in slip port or onboard.
This may be the ideal forum to discuss outcomes of the meetings further down the track, just a suggestion. Im sure eden or pegasus can give us further advice on this issue.
from what the FAAA said these meetings cover very sensitive issues. im not sure we should be covering the topics and contents of those meetings in this forum. If any of us cant make them then we should speak to someone who attended.
Some people on here would love to use this as an alternative to attending.That is not a reference to you Mach.Many will be away and miss attending, all the more reason we should discuss it when we meet either in slip port or onboard.
This may be the ideal forum to discuss outcomes of the meetings further down the track, just a suggestion. Im sure eden or pegasus can give us further advice on this issue.
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Faaa Meetings
A very sensible suggestion hawk eye.
The 2 meetings so far in sydney have been great turn outs and there has been unanimous support for the FAAA position regarding changes that need to occur.
All crew should attend a meeting.
The 2 meetings so far in sydney have been great turn outs and there has been unanimous support for the FAAA position regarding changes that need to occur.
All crew should attend a meeting.
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