British Airways - LGW
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LGW is the blueprint for the new look LHR have no mistake. It may take time, but things WILL change. Look at what's happening to crew compliments on EFLHR, look familiar anyone at SFLGW?
I had foreseen that even before I joined BA, and yet it is not me (or you) who gets the xxK bonus for the great idea...ever wondered why?
Guys BA is saving A LOT of money with the SF, whatever happens crew at LGW will keep operating both LH and SH, whatever routes they move or not move isn't really important to us as crew. We have no destination payments of box payments so anything could happen.
If they want to take DFW or ATL or IAH... please help Yourself Willie, we know that something else will have to come "down the road" as we all know the situation with slots at LHR. Plus, one can agree or not with Him, but Willie doesn't care who does what as long as it's profitable and keeps the base costs down. It's all in His hands and SFLGW has already started proving His point.
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Just to say good luck to all SOU Bacons starting as new entrants at singlefleet 6 November.
& for every other member of cabin crew at SOU who could not go especially the part timer mothers i sincerely wish you all the luck in the future and hope you continue to be happy and healthy even though you have lost the jobs you loved.
See you at the P*SS Up tomorrow night.
& for every other member of cabin crew at SOU who could not go especially the part timer mothers i sincerely wish you all the luck in the future and hope you continue to be happy and healthy even though you have lost the jobs you loved.
See you at the P*SS Up tomorrow night.
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A few of them are. I am preparing their paperwork to start their course with us at SF LGW. But it's not many of them, I have to say. At the moment we also have only three New Entrant courses scheduled to start from now till the end of February, and two of them start in the next 2 weeks and one at the beginning of january.
God knows what's going to happen then!!
God knows what's going to happen then!!
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- Be careful with negative bids (i.e. AVOID bids). They might work for a while but then can suddenly go against you! You might find that for a couple of months an Avoid bid has avoided you the dreaded doubles, but then the following month you get 4 (which is the maximum you can get rostered in a month, by the way). This is because Carmen could read an Avoid as a preference. Silly but true.
- If you want nightstops, bid for any nightstop, don't be too choosy (for example "I want a MAN nightstop every other friday night") as your chances of getting what you want then are reduced. For example just put a bid of 200 points for any nightstop, anytime, multiplied by x times, chances are you will get a few nightstops this way.
- A manager once told me that anything with availability below 40 is almost impossible to get for a fairly new crew, so check with the "filter" option how many trips there are that correspond to your wish before submitting the final bid.
- Keep bid lines to a minimum, the more bid lines you put, the more confusing it gets for Carmen (she doesn't have a PhD!)
- Try not to outbid your main bid. For example:
You ask once for the 13th November off and you give 200 points.
Then you ask for 3 there&backs and give 100 points to this bid line = Carmen thinks: 3 x 100 = 300 so considers your second bid as more important. If Carmen gives you even only 2 of these there&backs your overall satisfaction will be 200, which is the same as your main bid. So be careful!!!
- I have found myself that I get better satisfaction if I "trick" the silly cow by using odd numbers, i.e. 199 points for my top bid, 99 instead of 100 for my second and 49 instead of 50 for the third and so on when I have more requests. Remember though to always calculate that your 2nd and possibly 3rd bid do not outbid your first!!
That's it I cannot think of anything else right now, but if I do I will post it for you later.
Hope it helps!!! I am sure that when I go back to work you'll be such an expert in "Carmenology" that you'll give me tips
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guys i thought there is still loads of new entrants to start over the next month....this is what i was told at least like there is 2 courses every week plus the guys who are coming every week from LHR one course a week...so its maybe a lot more than 3 courses altogether:-)
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Newbagr, I hope you take my word for the truth and not for a rumour as Icompleted the training plans for LGW until mid Feb myself last thursday.
There are only 3 new entrant cabin crew courses scheduled from now till february. One of them started yesterday, that leaves 2, one commencing monday next week and one starting in the first half of january. There were another 3 new entrant courses scheduled but have been indefinitely cancelled - i.e. we do not know whether they'll take place or when.
There are however lots of Fleet Transfer courses (i.e. B777 conversions for ex-EF LGW crew) and a few (one per week or every other week) 737 Transfer courses for those WW LHR crew who were on a temporary contract.
Our trainers will be very busy in the next few months with these fleet transfer courses together with CM & Purser promotion and Wings courses.
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There are only 3 new entrant cabin crew courses scheduled from now till february. One of them started yesterday, that leaves 2, one commencing monday next week and one starting in the first half of january. There were another 3 new entrant courses scheduled but have been indefinitely cancelled - i.e. we do not know whether they'll take place or when.
There are however lots of Fleet Transfer courses (i.e. B777 conversions for ex-EF LGW crew) and a few (one per week or every other week) 737 Transfer courses for those WW LHR crew who were on a temporary contract.
Our trainers will be very busy in the next few months with these fleet transfer courses together with CM & Purser promotion and Wings courses.
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Flyby wire thats interesting info as did hear the other day new entrant courses still running till feb actually going to be in hangar 6 for my CM course so any tips appreciated , will send you a PM !
Any other news any news about the MAN - JFK route ?
Any other news any news about the MAN - JFK route ?
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Don't know if this is true but have heard it from various different departments at compass.
Regards to the MAN-JFK route.
- It's on a 767
- Engineering equipment is in place for 767 and not 777
- LGW are not 767 trained
There are great deal more theories but I think this makes the most sense.
Regards to the MAN-JFK route.
- It's on a 767
- Engineering equipment is in place for 767 and not 777
- LGW are not 767 trained
There are great deal more theories but I think this makes the most sense.
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so many rumours are going around at the moment, I even heard that it will be done by EF LHR crew. I guess we'll have to wait and see, to be honest I wouldn't like the idea of positioning to MAN then operate the JFK route and vice versa.
Thank god our agreement doesn't allow to combine SH and LH sectors like the old single fleet contract, otherwise I could see the situation of SF LGW crew operating W patterns to JFK via MAN as highly likely!!!!
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Thank god our agreement doesn't allow to combine SH and LH sectors like the old single fleet contract, otherwise I could see the situation of SF LGW crew operating W patterns to JFK via MAN as highly likely!!!!
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True...but I believe you cannot mix a short-haul with a long-haul duty though. However nothing would keep us from positioning prior to a LH flight, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see!!
Maybe YD or WLITS have fresher gossip......
Maybe YD or WLITS have fresher gossip......
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Yeah thaths true you cant mix LH and SH in the same day , but we could do
LGW-JFK(NS)-MAN(NS)-JFK(NS)-LGW thats if LGW gets a JFK !! Who knows !!!
Or we could do what Charter does position up and position back !
LGW-JFK(NS)-MAN(NS)-JFK(NS)-LGW thats if LGW gets a JFK !! Who knows !!!
Or we could do what Charter does position up and position back !
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Psrt Time and NSP Transfers
For anybody out there who is interested.......
How the transfer within the NSP will work I have no idea, however I hope his will make many people happy! 
GATWICK FLEET PART TIME
As you are aware the Eurofleet Gatwick Lifestyle Choice Framework expired in September. Any unachieved bids from that list are now null and void. We are pleased to advise you that a new opportunity to apply for a change of contract type will be opened this month.
We will open the list on Monday 20 November 2006 at 0900hrs
We will close the list on Sunday 31 December 2006 at 1200hrs
The list will be valid for 12 months. This will bring Gatwick Fleet in line with the Opportunities and Choice Framework, which currently applies, to LHR and GLA. In Winter 2007 a new Opportunities and Choice will open for the entire NSP. At this stage you will be able to bid for a change in contract type and/or a fleet transfer along with your LHR and GLA colleagues.
A document, titled ‘Part-Time at Gatwick Fleet’, is available on the intranet. This explains the part-time arrangements for the variable contracts at Gatwick Fleet.
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As you are aware the Eurofleet Gatwick Lifestyle Choice Framework expired in September. Any unachieved bids from that list are now null and void. We are pleased to advise you that a new opportunity to apply for a change of contract type will be opened this month.
We will open the list on Monday 20 November 2006 at 0900hrs
We will close the list on Sunday 31 December 2006 at 1200hrs
The list will be valid for 12 months. This will bring Gatwick Fleet in line with the Opportunities and Choice Framework, which currently applies, to LHR and GLA. In Winter 2007 a new Opportunities and Choice will open for the entire NSP. At this stage you will be able to bid for a change in contract type and/or a fleet transfer along with your LHR and GLA colleagues.
A document, titled ‘Part-Time at Gatwick Fleet’, is available on the intranet. This explains the part-time arrangements for the variable contracts at Gatwick Fleet.
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superairhostess your inbox is full and I cannot send you any private messages! remember to delete the messages you have sent as well as the old ones you do not need anymore
For the many people who have asked me when the transfer list opens, as the memo says that will be october/november 2007, to get in line with the rest of the NSP, and it will be valid for 2 years. Then it should re-open in 2009, 2011 and so on.
Next year, when the time gets closer, BA will send everybody a memo about it and will give full explanation on how to apply together with an application form.
FBW
For the many people who have asked me when the transfer list opens, as the memo says that will be october/november 2007, to get in line with the rest of the NSP, and it will be valid for 2 years. Then it should re-open in 2009, 2011 and so on.
Next year, when the time gets closer, BA will send everybody a memo about it and will give full explanation on how to apply together with an application form.
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unions, Bassa or Amicus(cc89)
hiya i need to join a union soon, but im not sure who to go with, i have two choices Amicus(cc89) which is based at gatwick and is operated my gatwick crew(?) and is cheap, or theres Bassa, i have heard they are a strong union and get things moving but are more expensive! in general what does every one think!
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Sammyjayne, have we been naughty? Being LGW Crew, I have to be honest and say that they both seam to be as useless as each other! The only real difference between he two is if you are lucky enough to be on a Part-Time contract as CC89 will give you a special rate of £5.50pm. As for geting things moving, the Unions and Company seam to spend more time in 'cooling-off' periods than anything else. Neither of them are worth the amount they charge if you are Full-Time Crew unless of course you have been a naughty boy/girl!!!!!!!