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I'd rather two or three than one for some reason? I feel more comfortable talking with more people than just focusing on one.
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Foot in the door
I also heard that they might be looking for someone in Mildura... do you think it'd be a good short term option as a way to get a foot in the door for longer term?? How bad can the lifestyle be?? Anyone??
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As I mentioned in an earlier post, non-native Mildura based flight attendants don't last long. If you're not the kind of person who can relocate easily to a town where you don't know anyone, it's not for you. Think about how much you depend on your family and friends before you decide to move if you are offered a position. Getting a transfer to another base may take longer than you think.
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Medical
Ok everyone in the know!
What exactly goes on at a Medical? Are they looking to fail you? My eyesight is not the best so am concerned about an eyetest. How strict are
they on the weight thing, I'm probably a bit underweight would that matter.
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What exactly goes on at a Medical? Are they looking to fail you? My eyesight is not the best so am concerned about an eyetest. How strict are
they on the weight thing, I'm probably a bit underweight would that matter.
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Interview involved a lot of tough questions Unsure of how I went but I really gave it my best. Can't do anymore than that
Now the waiting...
About being a little underweight. I am sure it does not matter unless you are A LOT underweight, then there is cause for concern. Some people are naturally a little under, and I believe that is fine.
Interview involved a lot of tough questions
Unsure of how I went but I really gave it my best. Can't do anymore than that Now the waiting...
About being a little underweight. I am sure it does not matter unless you are A LOT underweight, then there is cause for concern. Some people are naturally a little under, and I believe that is fine.
Sorry to break up the party, but Eastern FA is a ****e job. Why do you think so many people are leaving?
They pay ****e
They treat their staff like ****e
They lie about progression (are they still telling you guys it will happen in interviews?)
They constantly operate single FA on 300's and draft (read forced overtime) on the end of your shift. Expect to do 10-11 hours a day. Thats 10-11 hours pretty much entirely on your feet and 6 sectors, often without a break.
Think very carefully before taking a job with these sharks.
They pay ****e
They treat their staff like ****e
They lie about progression (are they still telling you guys it will happen in interviews?)
They constantly operate single FA on 300's and draft (read forced overtime) on the end of your shift. Expect to do 10-11 hours a day. Thats 10-11 hours pretty much entirely on your feet and 6 sectors, often without a break.
Think very carefully before taking a job with these sharks.
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Well thanks for your information, I quite often go around blind before I leap into something...
And FYI I personally know some Jet* FA's who left Eastern and now are desperately trying to get back in.
Can't be all that bad then.
And by the way ggrowler who would you suggest I go with.
And FYI I personally know some Jet* FA's who left Eastern and now are desperately trying to get back in.
Can't be all that bad then.
And by the way ggrowler who would you suggest I go with.
Woo-hoo, it's better than Jetstar - big deal. It's like comparing STD's.
If you show me a few FA's who are "desperate"to come back, I'll show you dozens who are desperate to leave (and are leaving in large numbers).
I have stated the facts so that I don't have to see more disillusioned, lied-to FA's when I go to work. It's not glamourous, the work is bloody hard, and the rewards are almost insulting.
I have seen several FA's almost in tears from anger and frustration as their shift goes from being 7 hours to 12 hours. I spoke to someone who did a 16+! hour duty the other day (union approved, but thats another story
). Try organising things such as doctors, dentists, hair, picking up kids, etc, etc.
As for where else to go, that's up to you. I'm not saying don't come to EAA, I'm saying if you do, don't whinge when it is as I've stated.
If you show me a few FA's who are "desperate"to come back, I'll show you dozens who are desperate to leave (and are leaving in large numbers).
I have stated the facts so that I don't have to see more disillusioned, lied-to FA's when I go to work. It's not glamourous, the work is bloody hard, and the rewards are almost insulting.
I have seen several FA's almost in tears from anger and frustration as their shift goes from being 7 hours to 12 hours. I spoke to someone who did a 16+! hour duty the other day (union approved, but thats another story
). Try organising things such as doctors, dentists, hair, picking up kids, etc, etc.As for where else to go, that's up to you. I'm not saying don't come to EAA, I'm saying if you do, don't whinge when it is as I've stated.
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Well the way I look at it some STD's are worse than others. 
And don't worry if I do get the job I won't whinge because I have been
informed by yourself and others that fly with them. A good friend of mine who works for QF LH Crewing said to me a while ago that the "reign of the flight attendant is over" the good old days are gone.
And this forum informs us of the good, bad and the ugly. So your right no whinging from the informed.
And don't worry if I do get the job I won't whinge because I have been
informed by yourself and others that fly with them. A good friend of mine who works for QF LH Crewing said to me a while ago that the "reign of the flight attendant is over" the good old days are gone.
And this forum informs us of the good, bad and the ugly. So your right no whinging from the informed.
Have never been, never will be, and, before anyone starts, haven't "missed out". I'm posting as an informed outsider.
I presume you are an EAAFA - is anything I have posted not fact?
8 Drafting's before lunch yesterday due to management not allowing uncovered shifts to be offered to people on days off (as per the INTENT of the FA EBA)...
I presume you are an EAAFA - is anything I have posted not fact?
8 Drafting's before lunch yesterday due to management not allowing uncovered shifts to be offered to people on days off (as per the INTENT of the FA EBA)...
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Grrowler, with comments like "...seen several FA's almost in tears from anger and frustration as their shift goes from being 7 hours to 12 hours. I spoke to someone who did a 16+! hour duty the other day..." and "8 draftings before lunch...." you must work there - how would you get to know that level of detail? So come on Grrowler! Give us the dirt.
16 Hour duty? I'mpossible! I've just read the drafting clause and the max u could do would be 11 hrs planned. Either you're talking about "tours eitherside of a layover" and if you're talking about the guy that went to MQL, I heard about that too and apparently he got $175 for an extra 2 hrs work... not bad money for 2 hrs work if you ask me!
Grrowler... if you do work there, then why don't you exercise your choice to leave? Isn't that what people do when they don't like a job?
I've heard of bad Management before, but surely they aren't 'chaining' people to the workplace!?
Fingers Crossed; Yeah I've heard that two people from JQ are back with EAA - they apparently hated it over there... you just don't know who to believe really!
16 Hour duty? I'mpossible! I've just read the drafting clause and the max u could do would be 11 hrs planned. Either you're talking about "tours eitherside of a layover" and if you're talking about the guy that went to MQL, I heard about that too and apparently he got $175 for an extra 2 hrs work... not bad money for 2 hrs work if you ask me!
Grrowler... if you do work there, then why don't you exercise your choice to leave? Isn't that what people do when they don't like a job?
I've heard of bad Management before, but surely they aren't 'chaining' people to the workplace!? Fingers Crossed; Yeah I've heard that two people from JQ are back with EAA - they apparently hated it over there... you just don't know who to believe really!
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Many times I have done 16-19hour unplanned duties... in a disrupt this is to be expected and to have your duty extended is not uncommon for any airline so really growler your not telling anyone anything any airline these days wouldnt expect.
The only things that have limits on them is the amount of sectors you are legally able to operate, in nz we are allowed to pax one and then operate up to 5 domestic, or pax/operate one domestic and then operate 2 international.
EAA is not a bad company... yes the work is hard, and yes it will take a while for any sort of progression but if this is the job you want go for it. Opportunities that are full time and that do have eventual progression are hard to come by in aussie so i wish you all the best!
The only things that have limits on them is the amount of sectors you are legally able to operate, in nz we are allowed to pax one and then operate up to 5 domestic, or pax/operate one domestic and then operate 2 international.
EAA is not a bad company... yes the work is hard, and yes it will take a while for any sort of progression but if this is the job you want go for it. Opportunities that are full time and that do have eventual progression are hard to come by in aussie so i wish you all the best!
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grrowler,
Unfortunately, the INTENT of the EBA is irrelevant if the clauses in question do not actually state that duties should be offered to staff on days off before drafting occurs. The only conditions the company must meet before resorting to drafting cabin crew are:
1 All reallocatable flight attendants have been utilised.
2 All reserve flight attendants have been utilised.
3 A new duty has been rejected by a flight attendant.
I don't understand how you can be so passionate about an issue which bears no relation to you personally.
Unfortunately, the INTENT of the EBA is irrelevant if the clauses in question do not actually state that duties should be offered to staff on days off before drafting occurs. The only conditions the company must meet before resorting to drafting cabin crew are:
1 All reallocatable flight attendants have been utilised.
2 All reserve flight attendants have been utilised.
3 A new duty has been rejected by a flight attendant.
I don't understand how you can be so passionate about an issue which bears no relation to you personally.
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Most the major airlines in Aus all have duty hour restrictions. As an average they hover around 10hr30-11hr planned duty, extendable to 12 under disrupts. Anything over that needs to be approved by the FAAA.
Jetconnect SH had a restriction of max 22hrs when I was there - I never did more then 13 hours though and the base I was in only ever did Trans Tassies so we were doing the longer (but easier!) duties. I don't quite know how on earth you'd ever manage to hit 22 (and neither does the company or that's what you'd probably be working!!).
If it's the dream job, go for it, but just know it's not the best thats on offer. Other regional airlines offer a better deal and so do the domestics. I took a job at JC years ago knowing that it wasn't the best deal and used it for and enjoyed the experience - I couldn't stand the people I worked with everyday whinging about the money and conditions though - everyone saw the CEA before they took the job. Don't be one of them if you take the gig at EAA.
On the up side - it's probably one of the last ways to get a FT gig at QF SH - that's if it still exists once you sit out the 5-7 years on a Dash!
Jetconnect SH had a restriction of max 22hrs when I was there - I never did more then 13 hours though and the base I was in only ever did Trans Tassies so we were doing the longer (but easier!) duties. I don't quite know how on earth you'd ever manage to hit 22 (and neither does the company or that's what you'd probably be working!!).
If it's the dream job, go for it, but just know it's not the best thats on offer. Other regional airlines offer a better deal and so do the domestics. I took a job at JC years ago knowing that it wasn't the best deal and used it for and enjoyed the experience - I couldn't stand the people I worked with everyday whinging about the money and conditions though - everyone saw the CEA before they took the job. Don't be one of them if you take the gig at EAA.
On the up side - it's probably one of the last ways to get a FT gig at QF SH - that's if it still exists once you sit out the 5-7 years on a Dash!