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HH should have stayed at EK. He felt like he was on top of hte world rulling the Cabin Crew Department. Well, he prep'd his own grave.
The new guy is not much better and is enjoying life so let's see how long he will be here. Has no idea about the culture here, people or what he is doing but seems to be in good terms with HR so he is Safe......for now !
The new guy is not much better and is enjoying life so let's see how long he will be here. Has no idea about the culture here, people or what he is doing but seems to be in good terms with HR so he is Safe......for now !
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Alright alright , can people stop complaining about everything .
I mean , EY is a new airline ...of course nothing is perfect , far from it , but come on , it is not bad working for them.
Personnaly , I really love the job (I think it is amazing to be able to be in London one day , the other in Manila and the week after in Toronto).....and the reason why people complain is maybe because they dont like the job itsef ...they would complain about the passengers , about this and that ...and it is annoying.
The pay , is not bad in EY ....I get 7200 dirhams almost everymonth , which is 1700 euros + accomodation ....
Sorry guys , but in Europe , you would not get accomodation provided , transportation provided and all this ...but for the first few years , you will start doing short hauls ...
So please , stop seeing the bad side of the job and the airline and try to enjoy ....
I mean , EY is a new airline ...of course nothing is perfect , far from it , but come on , it is not bad working for them.
Personnaly , I really love the job (I think it is amazing to be able to be in London one day , the other in Manila and the week after in Toronto).....and the reason why people complain is maybe because they dont like the job itsef ...they would complain about the passengers , about this and that ...and it is annoying.
The pay , is not bad in EY ....I get 7200 dirhams almost everymonth , which is 1700 euros + accomodation ....
Sorry guys , but in Europe , you would not get accomodation provided , transportation provided and all this ...but for the first few years , you will start doing short hauls ...
So please , stop seeing the bad side of the job and the airline and try to enjoy ....
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Not complaining, just the facts. One thing was said when hired and once here, a new story. If you have no experience and come from Eastern Europe or Asia, whatever they give you is ok. Sorry to say it but so many crew are saying.. I will depart today but I can't as I have to send money home and whatever I get is more than what I will get at home.
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The facts ...??? well you can see these facts on a good side or not...you can choose to believe that everything is horrible , that the management is bad , that the salary is very low ( which is wrong ...lets be realistic ...where do you get 2000 USD + ACCOMODATION),that aircrafts are bad , that your accomodation is bad ....or you can choose to see things on a positive side ....
I know lots of crew are from Asia or easter Europe ...it is not my case , I am from Western Europe and see....I am staying
Of course , I wont stay forever but for a couple of years , its not too bad
I know lots of crew are from Asia or easter Europe ...it is not my case , I am from Western Europe and see....I am staying
Of course , I wont stay forever but for a couple of years , its not too bad
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Originally Posted by cabincrewUAE
The facts ...??? well you can see these facts on a good side or not...you can choose to believe that everything is horrible , that the management is bad , that the salary is very low ( which is wrong ...lets be realistic ...where do you get 2000 USD + ACCOMODATION),that aircrafts are bad , that your accomodation is bad ....or you can choose to see things on a positive side ....
I know lots of crew are from Asia or easter Europe ...it is not my case , I am from Western Europe and see....I am staying
Of course , I wont stay forever but for a couple of years , its not too bad
I know lots of crew are from Asia or easter Europe ...it is not my case , I am from Western Europe and see....I am staying
Of course , I wont stay forever but for a couple of years , its not too bad
You're new aren't you. I started out positive too. Takes about 6 months for people to realise the ****tiness of their situation.
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Personal point of view
Some people want to see a glass as half full or half empty .....it is really up to you. 
Which ever way everyone wants to look at the airline - look at what else is out there..If other airlines are so much better and you are soooooo good...
then why aren't you being head-hunted by them!!??
The company has many good staff, crew and otherwise (and some bad I admit) but which company doesn't? At least the POTENTIAL is there...whether it is fully reached will show in a few years...but in the meantime, try and enjoy your job as best you can and don't let the others things detract from your life......Get out and see the world.. I mean reallly..are you planning on living the rest of your life in the UAE anyway???
At least you are working on mostly brand new aircraft and still get to do a real service...... better than having to sell food like others do in our profession or walk the aisle collecting rubbish in a large garbage bag......I know as I have been there too....Not pretty!!
I too have good days and bad, but I have to look at what other choices I have back in my home country and think whether I want to work for companies like Ryanair and Easy jet et. al.....
Yeah right, to compare, I bet it would be a dream working for them too!!! NOT!!!
Try working in a company that makes you clean the aircraft on turnarounds
AND AFTER you have just worked a 9:30 or 12 hour day and then see what it is like in the aviation industry as it stands today.....but then again I am sure that EK, BA, QF, AA, SN and all are just lining up to recruit some of the negative posters from this site!!
Maybe some people need to look at the postings on here and see what the other airlines are really like too before being so critical.
And for all those doubting... No I am not new!!
Neither to the aviation industry or to EY. And No I am not in management nor am I sleeping with anyone who is!! (since I know what kind of rebuttal I will get from my posting!) I am just a crew member trying to make the best of what is left of the aviation industry.... or should that now read mass transport industry!!??
Which ever way everyone wants to look at the airline - look at what else is out there..If other airlines are so much better and you are soooooo good...
then why aren't you being head-hunted by them!!??The company has many good staff, crew and otherwise (and some bad I admit) but which company doesn't? At least the POTENTIAL is there...whether it is fully reached will show in a few years...but in the meantime, try and enjoy your job as best you can and don't let the others things detract from your life......Get out and see the world.. I mean reallly..are you planning on living the rest of your life in the UAE anyway???
At least you are working on mostly brand new aircraft and still get to do a real service...... better than having to sell food like others do in our profession or walk the aisle collecting rubbish in a large garbage bag......I know as I have been there too....Not pretty!!
I too have good days and bad, but I have to look at what other choices I have back in my home country and think whether I want to work for companies like Ryanair and Easy jet et. al.....
Yeah right, to compare, I bet it would be a dream working for them too!!! NOT!!!
Try working in a company that makes you clean the aircraft on turnarounds
AND AFTER you have just worked a 9:30 or 12 hour day and then see what it is like in the aviation industry as it stands today.....but then again I am sure that EK, BA, QF, AA, SN and all are just lining up to recruit some of the negative posters from this site!!Maybe some people need to look at the postings on here and see what the other airlines are really like too before being so critical.
And for all those doubting... No I am not new!!
Neither to the aviation industry or to EY. And No I am not in management nor am I sleeping with anyone who is!! (since I know what kind of rebuttal I will get from my posting!) I am just a crew member trying to make the best of what is left of the aviation industry.... or should that now read mass transport industry!!??
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What what a load of rubbish you talk....
The airline has poetential? Thats kind of like saying Hitler had poetential to be a nice guy. We never actually saw it did we.
"If the other airlines are sooo good and we are sooo good why aren't we being head hunted." No one here is saying that they are good, just that EY is bad. And even if they were claiming to be supercrew what bloody airline headhunts crew you moron. ( Well actually EY did in the beginning and look how thats turned out.)
And yes the other airlines are way better. Look at the web history on the shared computers in your building I bet you find just about every airline and airline job site thats out has been accessed by your colleagues.
I am a little confused as to what you want us to do. Wait and see and try and enjoy ourselves for a few years till the place comes good. I mean how many years are we talking here ? You said it was pathetic to spend yourife in the UAE? I'm also supposed to get out and see the world aren't I?
The airline has poetential? Thats kind of like saying Hitler had poetential to be a nice guy. We never actually saw it did we.
"If the other airlines are sooo good and we are sooo good why aren't we being head hunted." No one here is saying that they are good, just that EY is bad. And even if they were claiming to be supercrew what bloody airline headhunts crew you moron. ( Well actually EY did in the beginning and look how thats turned out.)
And yes the other airlines are way better. Look at the web history on the shared computers in your building I bet you find just about every airline and airline job site thats out has been accessed by your colleagues.
I am a little confused as to what you want us to do. Wait and see and try and enjoy ourselves for a few years till the place comes good. I mean how many years are we talking here ? You said it was pathetic to spend yourife in the UAE? I'm also supposed to get out and see the world aren't I?
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Calm down please, etihadlad and pinkus - You clearly have different views on this matter, on what must be a subjective discussion. Both points of view are relevant, and I'm sure that potential Etihad crew members now have sufficient information to make a decision.
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Everyone has the right to their opinion and I do agree with Pinkus and Etihadlad can say what they feel as well. I am sure we have presented the real facts of life at EY and maybe people can form their own opinion on EY. If PCW, HH and the new guy BL are changed with positive crew oriented management I am sure things will turn more positive as we need people who can understand us. Hands-on management.
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Why don't you just leave then if you hate it that much?
I think you missed what etihadlad was saying.... Enjoy what you can seems to be the clear point that was being made as nowhere is perfect and many companies have issues for the crew...
I think you missed what etihadlad was saying.... Enjoy what you can seems to be the clear point that was being made as nowhere is perfect and many companies have issues for the crew...
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What to say ....
Hi guys, haven't been here for quite some time.
I work for EY almost 10 months, and like someone said u need 6 months to realize what is EY.
Unfortunately, there r more negative comments on EY than positive, and honestly, there r more negative things happening in EY than positive (for the crew).
It's not that bad in EY, but my advice to everybody is think twice before u join!
It's quite funny to defend bad things in EY saying this company is still new. What a joke! This is not some bakery where u can change things like u want, this is supposed to be an airline that pretends to be a 5 star airline, so things should have been put in their place long time ago.
Many things r bad here for the crew. Starting from recruitment, where they tell u nice things, show u one contract, and than, when u arrive in AUH everything changes. I could write a whole list of lies I was told at the assesment day, and the only true thing was "we are introducing each month 1-2 new destination" .... sad, very sad.
The salary is more or less ok, but not nice compared to the EK. If only we had allowances things would have been much better.
Now we have this French guy as a Cabin Crew Manager ... we all hoped he might change something for the crew, but actually he is repeating the same stories we have heard months ago. And what he gives us is peanuts, like: short reminder of services on flights (printed), to-do list for galleys, book of annoucements, only english and arabic pa, and so on. No comment.
The latest thing is they r moving all the guys in one building, so we will have male and female buildings ... again, no comment ...
More and more people r resigning. Last month we had 25 people who left the company. Maybe the number doesn't look big, but for EY it is. And they left for QR,EK or home.
That's pretty much I wanted to say here ....
Once again, THINK TWICE, before u join ....
Good luck to everybody!
I work for EY almost 10 months, and like someone said u need 6 months to realize what is EY.
Unfortunately, there r more negative comments on EY than positive, and honestly, there r more negative things happening in EY than positive (for the crew).
It's not that bad in EY, but my advice to everybody is think twice before u join!
It's quite funny to defend bad things in EY saying this company is still new. What a joke! This is not some bakery where u can change things like u want, this is supposed to be an airline that pretends to be a 5 star airline, so things should have been put in their place long time ago.
Many things r bad here for the crew. Starting from recruitment, where they tell u nice things, show u one contract, and than, when u arrive in AUH everything changes. I could write a whole list of lies I was told at the assesment day, and the only true thing was "we are introducing each month 1-2 new destination" .... sad, very sad.
The salary is more or less ok, but not nice compared to the EK. If only we had allowances things would have been much better.
Now we have this French guy as a Cabin Crew Manager ... we all hoped he might change something for the crew, but actually he is repeating the same stories we have heard months ago. And what he gives us is peanuts, like: short reminder of services on flights (printed), to-do list for galleys, book of annoucements, only english and arabic pa, and so on. No comment.
The latest thing is they r moving all the guys in one building, so we will have male and female buildings ... again, no comment ...
More and more people r resigning. Last month we had 25 people who left the company. Maybe the number doesn't look big, but for EY it is. And they left for QR,EK or home.
That's pretty much I wanted to say here ....
Once again, THINK TWICE, before u join ....
Good luck to everybody!
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What EYtruth said is true and not in a negative way but the way it is. If this is the type of airline you would like to work for then, join. Maybe ( as we all hope) things will change. I know it could be a great place to be and work but it is not at the moment.
The French Guy who we all were hoping will change things..... well I don't know what to say. Trying to stay positive but he is sure not making anything positive or being there for the crew. The same as the other GF guy he is with. What he is producing or introducing is what other airline's check pursers or base supervisor's do. Small things, not what a Manager should be doing or working at. Not sure where they've found him but I know there is much better choices when it comes to management. They need to bring happy, motivated people who come from friendy airlines and bring the positive feel to all of us. We need Managers who come on flights sometimes with us and can see the real world. Not the ones who are there now as they are not even sure what they do as they do not have the experience nor the education to do the job as required.
I know people say EK is good but they have their problems as well and their cabin crew management is not the best as I know people who are at EK. I know people will say, well apply to EK and yes, a lot of people do but I have invested my time and dedication here and don't want it to be just a waste. Never did I imagine that I would see people leaving EY to go to QR but the days are here and people do. Maybe if management can hear us out and see how we feel, they would start thinking or do they simply don't care ???? I wonder !
Anyway, for those interested in EY... you know the facts, if you are still interested then apply or consider EK, QR.
The French Guy who we all were hoping will change things..... well I don't know what to say. Trying to stay positive but he is sure not making anything positive or being there for the crew. The same as the other GF guy he is with. What he is producing or introducing is what other airline's check pursers or base supervisor's do. Small things, not what a Manager should be doing or working at. Not sure where they've found him but I know there is much better choices when it comes to management. They need to bring happy, motivated people who come from friendy airlines and bring the positive feel to all of us. We need Managers who come on flights sometimes with us and can see the real world. Not the ones who are there now as they are not even sure what they do as they do not have the experience nor the education to do the job as required.
I know people say EK is good but they have their problems as well and their cabin crew management is not the best as I know people who are at EK. I know people will say, well apply to EK and yes, a lot of people do but I have invested my time and dedication here and don't want it to be just a waste. Never did I imagine that I would see people leaving EY to go to QR but the days are here and people do. Maybe if management can hear us out and see how we feel, they would start thinking or do they simply don't care ???? I wonder !
Anyway, for those interested in EY... you know the facts, if you are still interested then apply or consider EK, QR.
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I'm a bit impressed with things that Skyhigh72 wrote, as those r the facts, with no intention to have argument with any of the members of this forum.
If only EY management could pay more attention to us (crew) we might have some real improvements.
Lack of knowledge, skills and will is what caracterizes EY management. And I would say they simply don't care what the crew thinks, as they will always find people to recruit. Maybe not from Europe or Australia, but from other places for sure. And it's going to be harder and harder for recruiters. If they don't change anything, EY will become first "self-service" airline, as no crew will be working there,
So long ....
If only EY management could pay more attention to us (crew) we might have some real improvements.
Lack of knowledge, skills and will is what caracterizes EY management. And I would say they simply don't care what the crew thinks, as they will always find people to recruit. Maybe not from Europe or Australia, but from other places for sure. And it's going to be harder and harder for recruiters. If they don't change anything, EY will become first "self-service" airline, as no crew will be working there,
So long ....
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EY oh EY....
I attended the interview in KL in May and got selected then after about a week i got my MGT Clearence and went on to doing my medicals and submitting it to them after abt a week...then of course i got calls from them checking on when im available to fly off and stuff.. and i had also left my job as i was advised that i will be leaving in less then a month..... then all of a sudden i receive a mail and a call saying that due to some problems all recruitments are on hold however those recruited will definately join the team only not knowing when... so i waited and waited and in July the agent in KL got the list of names for those leaving in August... I got so excited as im on the list... got packed, bought all the stuff needed and all set to leave... then on the 13/8 exactly 3 months after my interview i receive a mail from EY saying that im an unsuccessful candidate... i was shocked and not knowing loads of other people received the same email too. The way the management works is crazy... i dont think they know wat they are doing... how can u recruit people make them spend so much on medicals, lead them on with informations on departure and now this...
I really hope that the way the management works will change as doing this to people out there is really not fair...
This is crazy....
I attended the interview in KL in May and got selected
then after about a week i got my MGT Clearence and went on to doing my medicals and submitting it to them after abt a week...then of course i got calls from them checking on when im available to fly off and stuff.. and i had also left my job as i was advised that i will be leaving in less then a month..... then all of a sudden i receive a mail and a call saying that due to some problems all recruitments are on hold however those recruited will definately join the team only not knowing when... so i waited and waited and in July the agent in KL got the list of names for those leaving in August... I got so excited as im on the list... got packed, bought all the stuff needed and all set to leave... then on the 13/8 exactly 3 months after my interview i receive a mail from EY saying that im an unsuccessful candidate... i was shocked and not knowing loads of other people received the same email too. The way the management works is crazy... i dont think they know wat they are doing... how can u recruit people make them spend so much on medicals, lead them on with informations on departure and now this...I really hope that the way the management works will change as doing this to people out there is really not fair...
This is crazy....
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Gwennie, So sorry to know how EY has been dealing with you. Yes, the Managers of both HR and InFlight are a complete joke and already the word on the street is that either they have to bring onboard some experienced and positive people soon or they will be out very soon as people will be talking to the Sheikh. How true that is, who knows ? At EY who knows. They are trying all this new ways in our department but having the wrong people doing it.
I suggest you try EK and Best of Luck !
I suggest you try EK and Best of Luck !
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ridiculous!!!
This is such a fool. How could an airline doing thing like such? They simply thought that we are bunch of idiots.
They are just being:
irrational
irrelevant
irresponsible
and finally they made me feel so IRRITATING!
They are just being:
irrational
irrelevant
irresponsible
and finally they made me feel so IRRITATING!