Anything to do with Jetstar Recruitment (Merged)
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Its absolutely 100% true, regarding staff travel and full benefits. Have a look on the Jetstar website under news and it will fill you in on all. I found out at my final interview and was pleased, not much of a difference from working at QLink except more pay.
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Believe me you'll need every week of it. (the 6 weeks leave)
Still though, the package doesn't seem that draconian , particularly if you are flogging away in a menial poorly paid job. My nephew has been working at a 4 star hotel for 18 months now. His group certificate showed his gross earnings for a year of shift work including incidental overtime was $ 28,219 aus .
He has level 2 first aid and has recently been semi automatic defibrillator trained as his hotel now has some. He has also been trained in emergency procedures regarding fire or other threat to life evacuations.
He is 21 years old . Over a beer or 3 the other night he was telling me of some of the things that he has encountered during his employment.
Aside from the normal abuse and disputes over bills , mini bar etc , which confront anyone in a front line customer service role he has had some awful experiences including:
Drunk and drug affected people harassing hotel staff and guests in the foyer whilst attempting to scrounge food, money or a comfortable lounge to sleep on for the night. One such charmer produced a meat cleaver when asked to leave .
He administered immediate first aid to a young girl who stumbled into the foyer after being beaten senseless in a nearby lane ( and as it turned out sexually assaulted as well.)
Has delivered CPR to a heroin o/d outside the hotel until paramedics arrived.
Had to get into a barricaded room with hotel security to get to a business man who was alcohol affected and had telephoned his ex wife saying he was going to jump out the window . Entry was gained just as the bloke was about to hurl a coffe table through the window which wouldn't open wide enough for him to jump out of.
But the worst of them all was a few weeks ago when he was contacted by housekeeping to check if a room was actally vacant as there was a " do not disturb " sign on the handle. The guest was due to check out early that morning. After failed contact by phone he entered the room with security to find that she had indeed checked out by taking an overdose of anti depressants and slitting her wrists in a full bath. He is still losing sleep over that one!
He has put up with more crap in 18months than I did in 20 years of flying , and I was earning 3 times the money.
If you think his application for Jetstar International is on the way you are damn right. I suspect hundreds and hundreds of others like him will be doing the same . Things don't look rosy for anyone working Q.F longhaul.
The smart ones will take the package -the others should mutate now and avoid the rush!
Still though, the package doesn't seem that draconian , particularly if you are flogging away in a menial poorly paid job. My nephew has been working at a 4 star hotel for 18 months now. His group certificate showed his gross earnings for a year of shift work including incidental overtime was $ 28,219 aus .
He has level 2 first aid and has recently been semi automatic defibrillator trained as his hotel now has some. He has also been trained in emergency procedures regarding fire or other threat to life evacuations.
He is 21 years old . Over a beer or 3 the other night he was telling me of some of the things that he has encountered during his employment.
Aside from the normal abuse and disputes over bills , mini bar etc , which confront anyone in a front line customer service role he has had some awful experiences including:
Drunk and drug affected people harassing hotel staff and guests in the foyer whilst attempting to scrounge food, money or a comfortable lounge to sleep on for the night. One such charmer produced a meat cleaver when asked to leave .
He administered immediate first aid to a young girl who stumbled into the foyer after being beaten senseless in a nearby lane ( and as it turned out sexually assaulted as well.)
Has delivered CPR to a heroin o/d outside the hotel until paramedics arrived.
Had to get into a barricaded room with hotel security to get to a business man who was alcohol affected and had telephoned his ex wife saying he was going to jump out the window . Entry was gained just as the bloke was about to hurl a coffe table through the window which wouldn't open wide enough for him to jump out of.
But the worst of them all was a few weeks ago when he was contacted by housekeeping to check if a room was actally vacant as there was a " do not disturb " sign on the handle. The guest was due to check out early that morning. After failed contact by phone he entered the room with security to find that she had indeed checked out by taking an overdose of anti depressants and slitting her wrists in a full bath. He is still losing sleep over that one!
He has put up with more crap in 18months than I did in 20 years of flying , and I was earning 3 times the money.
If you think his application for Jetstar International is on the way you are damn right. I suspect hundreds and hundreds of others like him will be doing the same . Things don't look rosy for anyone working Q.F longhaul.
The smart ones will take the package -the others should mutate now and avoid the rush!
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Leane, the difference with JQ Domestic is that they came across on the Impulse conditions, so it was a given. However there was much speculation that International would not get it...
Surely that means now, Jetconnect and Australian will have a better chance at fighting for full interline benifits. Come on its only fair for them!
Is there anywhere i can view the Conditions of employment (EBA, AWA or thereabouts) of JQI ??
Surely that means now, Jetconnect and Australian will have a better chance at fighting for full interline benifits. Come on its only fair for them!
Is there anywhere i can view the Conditions of employment (EBA, AWA or thereabouts) of JQI ??
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Travel Allowances
At the "morning tea" it was mentioned by the "other Irish guy" that they are looking at either a voucher or credit system at the place of accommodation in lieu of allowances.
Can't think of a better way to make me think twice about the adventure.....
Can't think of a better way to make me think twice about the adventure.....
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Pathetic
Every international airline including those from developing countries pay their crew allowances in order to feed themselves when overseas.
MANY pay far in excess of the amounts paid to existing Qantas longhaul crew.
Think VERY hard before hitching a ride with jetscar international........
MANY pay far in excess of the amounts paid to existing Qantas longhaul crew.
Think VERY hard before hitching a ride with jetscar international........
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Speedy,
Could you please supply a list of the many airlines that offer crew allowances far in excess than that paid to Q.F longhaul. Could you also provide details of the total salary package that these airlines offer. I would be interested to know.
Could you please supply a list of the many airlines that offer crew allowances far in excess than that paid to Q.F longhaul. Could you also provide details of the total salary package that these airlines offer. I would be interested to know.
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No but if you are implying that no one does perhaps you can supply a list of airlines that don't.
No one is talking here about salary packages.
The point being made is rather that all international carriers pay allowances to upline crew in order that they can feed themselves as they see fit.
Jetscar international appears to be lowering the bar by not providing what has been an industry standard.
As for upline allowances in excess of QF longhaul.
How about BA, KLM, Cathay, Thai for a start.
No one is talking here about salary packages.
The point being made is rather that all international carriers pay allowances to upline crew in order that they can feed themselves as they see fit.
Jetscar international appears to be lowering the bar by not providing what has been an industry standard.
As for upline allowances in excess of QF longhaul.
How about BA, KLM, Cathay, Thai for a start.
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yes agree with speedbird.. have been confirmed by mgmt that they are looking into a 'debit card' type procedure whereby you can swipe your card in order to withdraw your allowance/pay for your hotel bill with your allowance' i dont think they are even looking into giving crew the cash.. its going to be done on a deal system with the hotel for meals/mini bar etc.
i mean, yeah, there sure are ****tier jobs out there.. but in most other jobs your not 'trapped' at work for a few days.. (if your sick you can go home etc) whereas in this industry, you come to work.. your at work till you get back to your city. You cant ever knock off early or anything. It does make a big differnece sometimes esp with things like delays lasting into days etc in a foreign country.
i mean, yeah, there sure are ****tier jobs out there.. but in most other jobs your not 'trapped' at work for a few days.. (if your sick you can go home etc) whereas in this industry, you come to work.. your at work till you get back to your city. You cant ever knock off early or anything. It does make a big differnece sometimes esp with things like delays lasting into days etc in a foreign country.
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Allowances
Just to let you know that not all allowances are paid at the hotel for international airlines. I am from Australian and they pay allowances fortnighly ATO 2, a month after its due, if you understand that. But at QF domestic, they get DTA, so an hourly rate in there pay when they are O/S. It is a bad wage, but if you are out for the experience, and want to try international flying, do it. Don't listen to anyone telling you bad stuff. You do the job because you love it, not for monetary gain. Those in it for the money end up complaining anyway. Good luck JQ International
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It's a mcjob.......
The kind that we [and our children] will be seeing a lot more of under howards new world order.
You are of course correct bubbly girl.
No one will be doing this for the money.
Sadly it seems there wont be too much love either when you body starts to react to how many hours per roster you will be doing.
This is EAST/WEST international flying at the kind of hours per roster that seems to be to be nothing short of ridiculous. 300???
Incumbent QF longhaul do around 200 with our pilots much the same.
$41000 PA gross WHICH INCLUDES superannuation, commission on food sales [productivity bonus????
], allowances and language allowance.
Hey, Alan Joyce suggests its a phenominal salary compared to those working in cafes and restaurants so there you go.
Even those running it agree its a Mcjob.
What a shame that love doesn't pay the rent/mortgage, put food on the table, put kids through school............
You are of course correct bubbly girl.
No one will be doing this for the money.
Sadly it seems there wont be too much love either when you body starts to react to how many hours per roster you will be doing.
This is EAST/WEST international flying at the kind of hours per roster that seems to be to be nothing short of ridiculous. 300???
Incumbent QF longhaul do around 200 with our pilots much the same.
$41000 PA gross WHICH INCLUDES superannuation, commission on food sales [productivity bonus????
], allowances and language allowance.Hey, Alan Joyce suggests its a phenominal salary compared to those working in cafes and restaurants so there you go.
Even those running it agree its a Mcjob.
What a shame that love doesn't pay the rent/mortgage, put food on the table, put kids through school............
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Australian average income in the private sector is now in excess of $52 000 per annum.
http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/[email protected]?OpenDocument
Mc Job anyone..........
http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/[email protected]?OpenDocument
Mc Job anyone..........
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Speedy,
Not implying anything. I was just interested to know if you had any good info as to the total packages on offer around the world.
As for Jet* International , the package by current Australian airline standards is ****e.
That said it remains very attractive to the thousands and thousands of wannabes out there . As mentioned in a previous post it beats the sh@t out of what is on offer in other hospitality jobs out there. Particularly with travel benefits.
Doesn't matter if they get dissillusioned after a few years , it only takes a few weeks to train a Flight Attendant and there is an endless supply of wannabes out there.
Dixon and co. know this too well. Once this is up and running it will expand and erode Q.F longhaul routes . The future for long haul cabin crew is bleak.
The long haul award won't change that much...there just won't be any flying left that it can be applied to.
Not implying anything. I was just interested to know if you had any good info as to the total packages on offer around the world.
As for Jet* International , the package by current Australian airline standards is ****e.
That said it remains very attractive to the thousands and thousands of wannabes out there . As mentioned in a previous post it beats the sh@t out of what is on offer in other hospitality jobs out there. Particularly with travel benefits.
Doesn't matter if they get dissillusioned after a few years , it only takes a few weeks to train a Flight Attendant and there is an endless supply of wannabes out there.
Dixon and co. know this too well. Once this is up and running it will expand and erode Q.F longhaul routes . The future for long haul cabin crew is bleak.
The long haul award won't change that much...there just won't be any flying left that it can be applied to.
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300 INTERNATIONAL hours per roster at $41 000 PA isn't a career.
It's more a social and physiological experiment.
A career is what existing Qantas crew have.
For the moment at least.........
It's more a social and physiological experiment.
A career is what existing Qantas crew have.
For the moment at least.........
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hi i'm just a newcomer i just wanna that JQ need swim 50 metres nonstop with life jacket or without processing in Australia pls tell me for whom knows cuz now JQ recruit Thai crew based in BKK and they also need swiming test too ... i can't swim by the way
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Sorry Mostie
yep, should have used the past, but they are still flying as Australian Airlines for Qantas. They still receive their allowance intheir bank account a month after. Look, I am not wanting to get into any kind of talk back, just was answering a Q from one of the other punters online. Good luck to all.